"Panasonic G series" Owners Thread

ShrubMonkey said:
My G1 I got for £90 used is awesome, use it as much as my G3, plus the body handles better than the G3 for me
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I've long thought this about the G1 . . . although I only have a Nikon D90 to compare it with . . . It just feels so right . . . read much about the hell-bent upgrading as the new models have appeared, but not once have I had the urge to move on. Limited the G1 might be, but what camera isn’t?

I'm struggling to get myself back with camera in hand . . . I keep reading, so there must still be a spark, after all, I bought a Ranox 250 and a spare battery the other week . . .

I thought I would be restricted this year, my Hazel has had a major operation, that happened last week. She seems to be making a better recovery than was thought. I have my health issues, getting down, not a problem . . . how to get up again???? Hens the G1, animated screen and its lightness.

We need to get out . . . Hazel is a dab hand with her point and shoot. Get out . . . ? Even if its in the garden, I must fire up that enthusiasm?

CJS
 
You can have hours of fun shooting in the garden. One of my fav subject is my plants and flowers :D

I like my G1, I think that it produces very natural looking images. The only thing to watch IMVHO is that you don't blow the highlights but with an on screen histogram you can often avoid the problem. I shoot RAW and ETTR if at all possible and I'm quite happy with the results :D

I had a GF1 but as I prefer to shoot with the EVF I sld it here.

I'm a bit of a gear fan at times and I may buy a X Pro 1, a NX7 or even something that panasonic may produce in the near future but parting with the G1 will be difficult especially as I paid so little for it and it seems such a good camera and terrific value :D
 
Galaxy66 said:
Found a card with a few shots taken in 2010 from my old GF1 , don't recall processing these. Alnwick Castle just up the road from me.
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I like them alot :) - Almost look ever so slightly HDR'd with that detail
 
woof woof said:
You can have hours of fun shooting in the garden. One of my fav subject is my plants and flowers :D

I like my G1, I think that it produces very natural looking images. The only thing to watch IMVHO is that you don't blow the highlights but with an on screen histogram you can often avoid the problem. I shoot RAW and ETTR if at all possible and I'm quite happy with the results :D

I had a GF1 but as I prefer to shoot with the EVF I sld it here.

I'm a bit of a gear fan at times and I may buy a X Pro 1, a NX7 or even something that panasonic may produce in the near future but parting with the G1 will be difficult especially as I paid so little for it and it seems such a good camera and terrific value :D
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Hi Woof Woof, its the 'combination' of EVF and animated screen that I like, the EVF is good enough for the job, I think there is prejudice against them, which is unfounded, the G1 has an excelent 'on-board' EVF, the plugin jobbies found elsewhere let the side down IMHO.

The animated screen for those of us who are a little less agile is brilliant. I just cannot see the thrill or satisfaction in a camera with no view finder, 'squinting tourist stance just does nothing for me', a personal view of course. An old can of worms I know, but one might as well use my camera phone!

I use the screen pulled out as a waist high viewer (box camera style) the slightly lower angle often put that extra something into a picture, and using the manual focus at the same time is :thumbs:

Memories . . . last summer was the last time I pressed the shutter button. I really do need to unravel myself??? . . . cooped up indoors is not good, makes me an 'old sour puss' . . . a bit :cuckoo:

CJS
 
CJS said:
Memories . . . last summer was the last time I pressed the shutter button. I really do need to unravel myself??? . . . cooped up indoors is not good, makes me an 'old sour puss' . . . a bit :cuckoo:

CJS
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Same here. It's too easy to get into the habit isnt it.

Photography is all about a mindset.....at the moment I think, 'who would want to see this?' and I don't take it. That is supposing I even get out of the house with the camera in the first place !!
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Personally I mostly ignore other what other people may want to see. I like taking pictures and working on them and seeing the final result. It's my hobby and not someone elses so why should I stop myself from taking a shot that they may not like?

Ignore them... and shoot whatever you want :D

For example, I like this shot...

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It may be boring, but I make no excuse :)
 
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woof woof said:
Personally I mostly ignore other what other people may want to see. I like taking pictures and working on them and seeing the final result. It's my hobby and not someone elses so why should I stop myself from taking a shot that they may not like?

Ignore them... and shoot whatever you want :D

For example, I like this shot...

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It may be boring, but I make no excuse :)
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its not boring but could do with some post processing..have you tried hdr yet?
it can make a rainy day sunny
cheers
geof
 
mrtoad said:
its not boring but could do with some post processing..have you tried hdr yet?
it can make a rainy day sunny
cheers
geof
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I downloaded a trial of Topaz but I didn't really like it. Same image just boosted a little in CS5.

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Tulipone said:
Nice tidy garage :clap:
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I'm retired now but spent most of my working life in computers, product development and quality management... all very regimented occupations... you should see the tins in my cupboards! :D
 
I had to take the motorbike to the dealers in Southport today so knowing I would have a couple of hours to kill I took the GX1 for its first real outing.

It was sub zero and blowing a gale 24 hrs earlier but I think the GX1 has managed to capture the improvement in the weather :thumbs:

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Mark
 
iPhoto said:
I had to take the motorbike to the dealers in Southport today so knowing I would have a couple of hours to kill I took the GX1 for its first real outing.

It was sub zero and blowing a gale 24 hrs earlier but I think the GX1 has managed to capture the improvement in the weather :thumbs:

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Mark
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NIce shots, but sorry, could they be a little sharper do you think :shrug:
 
Dave in Wales said:
NIce shots, but sorry, could they be a little sharper do you think :shrug:
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I think your missing my point.. They were not placed in a critique thread, they were placed in a discussion thread to highlight the point I have managed to get a decent day to get out with the GX1.

If your looking for pin sharp images from what is very much my third choice camera on the first occasion I have used it then your looking in the wrong place :shrug:

Take them for what they are, snapshots of a beautiful day.

Mark
 
Mark - I'm with you although disappointed that it was your 3rd choice of camera! My results constantly surprise with just how good the GX1 is. I like the colours it produces and I consistently get results.
 
Not that sharpness really matters that much... but how can you tell if those shots are sharp or not????

They look good to me :D
 
And me. I will pop back into this thread next week. I have my eyes on a cam over this weekend and hope to join the G series massive!
 
iPhoto said:
I had to take the motorbike to the dealers in Southport today so knowing I would have a couple of hours to kill I took the GX1 for its first real outing.

It was sub zero and blowing a gale 24 hrs earlier but I think the GX1 has managed to capture the improvement in the weather :thumbs:

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Mark
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Must be something wrong with my eyes.They look plenty sharp to me.
 
Tulipone said:
Mark - I'm with you although disappointed that it was your 3rd choice of camera! My results constantly surprise with just how good the GX1 is. I like the colours it produces and I consistently get results.
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If I had the muscles of superman I would carry my 5D2, my 7D and the GXI and all of the lenses for each, but I haven’t so I don't :lol:

I would always go for the 5Ds and some of the L glass I have for the best results but the results are only going to be as good as the camera and glass you have with you, not the kit you leave in your studio :shrug:

That said, these were only snapshots with no real thought going into their composition, execution, processing or posting. My day to Southport was to get my Motorcycle fixed ready for more days like this, so I was just killing time and be it car, motorcycle, or on foot, work, rest or play, I bought the GX1 to make sure I always have a quality camera with me :thumbs:

Just been into the exif data and see these were 1/800 at f8 ISO 160 so had been thinking about what I was doing I would have stopped it down to get a greater DOF but the full size files look pretty good. That said, IQ could have been further improved using my 20mm lens rather that the 14-42 at the 14mm end.

Mark
 
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ShrubMonkey said:
My G1 I got for £90 used is awesome, use it as much as my G3, plus the body handles better than the G3 for me
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i got mine with 14-45 and a trekking rucksack baggie thing
almost new off of ebay
£185
 
Currently have a GF1 with 20mm prime and have decided I can't manage without a viewfinder. i have a budget of £600 (inc selling GF1 body and have several options:

1. G2 with 14-42 and 45-200 for £380

2. G3 with 14-42 and 45-200 for £550

3. GH2 with 14-42 for £550

Option 1 would allow me to keep the GF1 or get the Oly 45/1.8. I don't have many issues with IQ from the GF1 (high ISO performance occasionally, can't crop when printing big and a slightly low DR) but as my second system (keep a canon 1ds mk2 with L zooms and a prime for paying gigs but its too big for family trips or wandering around with) I can live with that the majority of the time.

Which way would you go? It'll be used for trips to the zoo, holidays, videos of the kids and maybe some biking. I'll carry it most days so smaller is better mainly but I do prefer the handling of the GH2
 
I've just bought the GF3 with 14mm lens - currently deciding whether or not to plump for the standard 14-42 zoom lens too. I'm heavily invested in the Canon SLR system at the moment and have bought this to replace the cruddy P&S cameras I seem to be constantly disappointed with when I go mountaineering. I know it's not quite as portable, but what's the IQ like between the two? I've read one fairly good review stating that there's not a huge amount of difference, but can't find many other conclusive opinions.
Thanks all!
 
I have the 14mm, 14-42 and the 14-42 power zoom. The 14mm prime is far better in low light situations and far more portable on the mountain. I find the 14-42 too bulky. The disadvantage of the 14mm prime as opposed to the zoom is that you will quickly become unpopular if you take close up pics of your friends. It's very unflattering.

I bought the 14-42 power zoom to solve this problem as it's only the size of the 14mm prime. I'm quite pleased with the lens though but the problem is the cost.

For mountaineering I think you would be better with the 14mm as it's far more portable and get someone else to take close ups with their compact.

My experience with the 14-42 for daytime landscape is that it performs well and there is not a noticeable difference unless you were going for a very large photograph or super critical.
 
hillwalkinggirl said:
I have the 14mm, 14-42 and the 14-42 power zoom. The 14mm prime is far better in low light situations and far more portable on the mountain. I find the 14-42 too bulky. The disadvantage of the 14mm prime as opposed to the zoom is that you will quickly become unpopular if you take close up pics of your friends. It's very unflattering.

I bought the 14-42 power zoom to solve this problem as it's only the size of the 14mm prime. I'm quite pleased with the lens though but the problem is the cost.

For mountaineering I think you would be better with the 14mm as it's far more portable and get someone else to take close ups with their compact.

My experience with the 14-42 for daytime landscape is that it performs well and there is not a noticeable difference unless you were going for a very large photograph or super critical.
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any views on the
LumixG Vario14-45mm/F3.5-5.6 Asph./Mega OIS Lens
i got this with my ebay purchase and not a lens afficionado wonder if i have got a good kit lens
primes would be nice but ££ and then my zoom would get huffy and not like being toted around in the dark
cheers
geof
 
It's thought by many to be better than the later 14-42mm.
 
mrtoad said:
any views on the
LumixG Vario14-45mm/F3.5-5.6 Asph./Mega OIS Lens
i got this with my ebay purchase and not a lens afficionado wonder if i have got a good kit lens
primes would be nice but ££ and then my zoom would get huffy and not like being toted around in the dark
cheers
geof
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I liked that Geof :lol:....best not to have a huffy lens:D

woof woof said:
It's thought by many to be better than the later 14-42mm.
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Think it has been proved to be better, the later one was a budget version brought out to keep the starter kits down in price.
 
Galaxy66 said:
I liked that Geof :lol:....best not to have a huffy lens:D
Think it has been proved to be better, the later one was a budget version brought out to keep the starter kits down in price.
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:cool:
it seems ok to me...i dont dare blow up my pics too much anyway...just for this forum and the 6x4 family album snaps
thanks Mal
cheers
geof
 
Dave in Wales said:
The 14-42X is taking a bit of a bashing on another 4/3 forum.

Letters to Panasonic, petition etc

http://www.mu-43.com/f38/panasonic-14-42x-poor-quality-21785/
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Sort of follows on from my comments earlier. What do people expect from a these camera’s. Yes they are expensive and do produce much better images than you would get from a fixed lens compact. But they are never going to match the quality of image I expect and receive from my full frame 5D2 and L glass combinations for which I paid a considerable amount more :shrug:

That said, i can get slight differences in IQ with the 5D2 when I swap from 1 L glass to another. Am I going to therefore demand my money back from Canon? errr No, they would politely explain that each lens has its own plus and minus points compared to other lenses no matter what you pay for them :rules:

Mark
 
vulcan2912 said:
It's nice to know the pixel peeping nerds are not only restricted to Canon and Nikon.
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at first I thought it was a joke.
these people should have their own special forum for their special needs.
seems like they have absolutely no interest in photography by normal standards. but well - there are many non-threatening things wrong on this planet, no need to worry about them .
 
I've got both the 14-42 and the 14-45 at the moment with the 14-45 being noticeably better in my opinion. My 14-42 is soft at 42mm whereas by 14-45 is sharp at all lengths.
It could obviously just be the copies I've got, but my findings seem to go along with the general consensus.

I've been looking at getting the Panny 14mm as a walkabout lens. It looks like its good value to buy it as the GF3 kit at the moment though once cashback is given. Very tempting!
 
Mandoo said:
I've got both the 14-42 and the 14-45 at the moment with the 14-45 being noticeably better in my opinion. My 14-42 is soft at 42mm whereas by 14-45 is sharp at all lengths.
It could obviously just be the copies I've got, but my findings seem to go along with the general consensus.

I've been looking at getting the Panny 14mm as a walkabout lens. It looks like its good value to buy it as the GF3 kit at the moment though once cashback is given. Very tempting!
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:love::love:
so now my sharpening tools can be thrown out
thanks for the boost in my confidence
cheers
geof
 
iPhoto said:
Sort of follows on from my comments earlier. What do people expect from a these camera’s. Yes they are expensive and do produce much better images than you would get from a fixed lens compact. But they are never going to match the quality of image I expect and receive from my full frame 5D2 and L glass combinations for which I paid a considerable amount more :shrug:

That said, i can get slight differences in IQ with the 5D2 when I swap from 1 L glass to another. Am I going to therefore demand my money back from Canon? errr No, they would politely explain that each lens has its own plus and minus points compared to other lenses no matter what you pay for them :rules:

Mark
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Good results :) I have MFT, compacts, a 5D and some very nice lenses and recently sold a 20D so I've been able to compare my MFT against other kit. I find that MFT beats the compacts, including a LX5 easily. The DSLR's offer better IQ at the highest ISO's but at low to middling ISO's I find that if shooting RAW and processing carefully there really is no real world difference in whole image shots or even quite heavy crops unless you want to pixel peep at 100% and nit pick but even then what you're probably going to see if differences caused by using different lenses at different apertures and different camera to subject distances rather than any difference between sensors and other camera hardware.

I have three MFT lenses. A Voigtlander 25mm f0.95, a Panny 20mm f1.7 and a 14-42mm zoom. Of the three the Voigtlander is the best and I'd happily see it compared to any fast Canon lens, I don't think it'd be disgraced and I think it could teach Canon something about build quality. The 20mm f1.7 performance is ok and the 14-42mm is a pretty good standard zoom IMVHO and it's performance is helped by MFT trickery which seems to completely eliminate distortion and CA, plus it has IS and it seems to be effective. That's a package and performance that Canon probably can't match with any of their standard range zooms.

I've taken comparison shots with APS-C, full frame and MFT and IMVHO there is no significant difference in image quality at low to middle ISO. The only thing you have to watch with MFT (IMVHO) is the dynamic range but if you keep an eye on the highlights and ETTR and back off in post capture processing, shoot RAW and process carefully good results which wouldn't look out of place amongst APS-C or full frame shots should be easily possible. My G1+25mm f0.95 is now my reach for camera and I think it's capable of capturing very natural looking images. Match a MFT body to a good lens and use it carefully and you should have nothing to worry about.
 
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yup !

coming from canon as well (+ nikon, sony, minolta you name it) I was pleasantly surprised by the m4/3rds system. it is absolutely awesome. I wouldn't have problems taking it to paid shoots etc.
 
Mandoo said:
but my findings seem to go along with the general consensus.
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I have looked at their world wide petition with all of its 43 signatures, hardly a general consensus :shrug:
 
vulcan2912 said:
It's nice to know the pixel peeping nerds are not only restricted to Canon and Nikon.
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Very well put :) I read a couple of pages of that thread and just thought the guy should have returned it if he wasn't happy, instead of getting all puffy-chested and wound up on the internets about it...

Edit: also no, I don't own a 14-42X ;)
 
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