Our lads deserve more

I aint building it, just heard the idea and it seemed a way to stop people from taking the **** anywhere in london would do really, isn't more than 12 miles the thing for having a second home


that makes no sense - aren't they allowed to claim for a second home if they live more than 12 miles away, so within that there's gotta be room for some sort of hotel and its gotta be cheaper than everyone claiming for a decent house
 
Sounds like the perfect place to have Al Kidder and the Boom Booms round for some entertainment.
 
wack61 said:
surely the RAF is buying the eurofighter as we have shares in building it, they buy it then other countries buy it, I assumed it was all about worldwide sales
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And anyone with a brain will buy the latest F-16 or F-18 variant or a MiG29 with a Taiwanese radar/avionics pack...
No-one really needs a Typhoon these days...

Though the Navy do need Carriers and planes (from all three services) to fly off them...

We should Privatise the Whole RAF and give the transport contract to Virgin Atlantic, the close-air-support role to the Army and Navy (who both have pilots with balls - I've lost count of the times I've been left stranded because the bloody RAF pilots didn't get out of bed/it was too cold/too rainy etc - and then got picked up by a Lynx or a Sea-King who just happened by...) and take all the RAF Movements staff from Brize Norton and maroon them in the Gobi Desert...

Military pers here will know of what I speak...
 
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Arkady said:
And anyone with a brain will buy the latest F-16 or F-18 variant .............. etc.QUOTE]

Yes, and if for no other reasons than:-

they can be got almost off the shelf;

spares, maintenance and operational requirements etc. are compatibable with aircraft used by our closest ally;

we know what they cost and when they can be delivered.

All aircraft, ships and armaments that come from MOD projects always seem to end up grossly over budget and years (sometimes decades) late.
I'll wager that the two super carriers will go about 10 times over budget and years late (assuming they actually get completed).
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wack61 said:
Our army is the most well trained army in the world,because training is cheap, they could have the best equipment if the government would stop spending money on crap like 15 sets of traffic lights on every bloody roundabout in the country.

I for one am immensely proud of all the armed services, they should have the equipment they require.

did I read they're really short of Chinook helicopters and there are 10 that have never flown because the government wouldn't buy the software required to get them in the air when they were new, it's too late now as it all has to be re-written and is going to take months

It's a damn disgrace
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Yes, it is a damn disgrace!!!
The MOD desk drivers who make these blinkered and crassly stupid decisions are never called to account at a later date when the full effect and costs of their incompetence becomes evident!
 
wack61 said:
did I read they're really short of Chinook helicopters and there are 10 that have never flown because the government wouldn't buy the software required to get them in the air when they were new, it's too late now as it all has to be re-written and is going to take months

It's a damn disgrace
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Nearly correct.

8 Chinooks have been in heated hangars since 2001. They cost £245 million.
MOD cannot validate the software codes because the info needed is a Boeing secret.
It's not a Boeing fault because the MOD got supplied with aircraft to the precise specification that they ordered. Now they have no way of knowing if the aircraft are safe to fly.

MOD are currently trying to get them flying using some sort of quick and dirty route costing £11 per aircraft.

Another farce is the Nimrod upgrade to MR4. Now 6 years late and none have yet been delivered.
BaE made the new wings for them on the basis they would all need exactly the same wings. When they got their hands on the aircraft they then found that no two of them are the same size so all the wings have to be modified.

The list is endless:-
Attempt to turn early Nimrods into AWACs was a massive failure.
Tornado F3's were initially known as Blue Circle fighters because that had a lump of concrete where the radar should be .. .. and so on.

No one gets the sack for this.
 
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