Oscar Pistorius not guilty of murder

Culpable Homicide - Guilty.
 
I now know were the expression "he got away with murder" comes from
 
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Leaving aside the evidence, which none of us have heard in detail...
And leaving aside whether or not he knew that his girlfriend was in the toilet, because only he knows what he knew
And leaving aside whether or not he should have called for help before taking action himself

The simple logic here is that if multiple shots are fired at a closed door, there must be an intention to cause harm. One shot can be argued as an intention to cause harm and certainly indicates a reckless lack of care (negligence) but multiple shots indicates a clear intention, i.e. if the first shot doesn't get you then let's hope that one of the others does.
 
MartynK said:
I wondered about that too. IIRC, there's a question about firing through a closed door in the written competency test for a firearm license. The answer is that it's very difficult to justify, because you can't identify your target and assess the threat he represents. OP must have passed this test.
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I didn't know you had to complete a written competency test to obtain a firearm, interesting.
The answer of course makes perfect sense.
And (as you say) he would have passed the test.
This makes his actions even more irrational.

Or should that be actually show's intent? ;)
 
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This judge has now granted and extended his "bail"

he will be a free man until sentencing

Obviously he will be (Night) "Clubing" for the next few weeks

It's becoming a "farce" IMHO
 
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it has been proven that he carries firearms,
it has been proven that he cannot control firearms,
he was thrown out of a NightClub a few weeks ago,
he is now a convicted murderer

what does she do ……. let him out on bail until October 13th …… cowboy town!

Pumza Fihlani BBC News
tweets: Crowds of young women cheer and scream as #OscarPistorius is escorted out. You be excused for thinking you're hearing fans at a concert.


What is going on
 
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I've read that those familiar with the S.African penal system are suggesting that he won't do jail time due to it being a first offence and furthermore a least one newspaper is suggesting that he will be poised to make millions of pounds for book rights and TV appearances on the back of this.

Justice?
 
Cartus said:
......and furthermore a least one newspaper is suggesting that he will be poised to make millions of pounds for book rights and TV appearances on the back of this.
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I know it should, but that really doesn't surprise me :(

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Justice?
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Nope just crazy :(
 
BillN_33 said:
it has been proven that he carries firearms,
it has been proven that he cannot control firearms,
he was thrown out of a NightClub a few weeks ago,
he is now a convicted murderer

what does she do ……. let him out on bail until October 13th …… cowboy town!

Pumza Fihlani BBC News
tweets: Crowds of young women cheer and scream as #OscarPistorius is escorted out. You be excused for thinking you're hearing fans at a concert.


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No. He's not a convicted murderer.
And in SA, there's still a slim chance he could receive a non custodial sentence.

Edit: for my own part, I believe he knew exactly what he was doing and the keys should be thrown away. but JMO.
 
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To be fair Bill, in the UK him having been on bail for the duration of the trial, he would probably have got bail as well.

And Viv, while I agree with you, at least she found him guilty of something!
 
viv1969 said:
No. He's not a convicted murderer.
And in SA, there's still a slim chance he could receive a non custodial sentence.

Edit: for my own part, I believe he knew exactly what he was doing and the keys should be thrown away. but JMO.
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Knowing and proving are quite another, as the only living witnesss with a semi credible story you kind of have to go with it.

The chances of him escaping jail are very very very slim. He'll do 7-10 years and in SA jail, that has to be hell on earth
 
I really don't understand how the judge came to some of he conclusions. How do you shoot 4 times through a door knowing someone is on the other side without intending/ expecting to kill them!?


Common-law murder
He could also have been convicted of a lesser charge of murder, if he had unlawfully intended to kill in the heat of the moment but without "malice aforethought".

This could have covered either shooting at the door intending to kill, or knowing someone might be killed and still firing a gun.

This would also apply if he had intended to kill an intruder but had instead killed his girlfriend.

But judge Masipa also dismissed this, saying: "The accused had the intention to shoot at the person behind the door, not to kill - the evidence failed to prove the accused had intention."

She also said the prosecution had not proven that he "accepted the possibility of killing someone" when he fired a gun four times through the toilet door.


Also,

"The accused had reasonable time to reflect, to think and conduct himself reasonably," she said.

But no time to make sure exactly where his partner was?


Bizarre.
 
That Judge will probably give him a medal for trying to defend Riva
 
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