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For no particular reason I have put off upgrading my Mac to Yosemite, that is until now. However, I have recently read that Apple will be releasing OS X El Capitan in the Autumn and was wondering if I should wait for the launch, or download Yosemite now.

I would appreciate any comments/advice from anyone who is already using Yosemite...:)
 
You may as well wait. El Capitan is in public beta so you could try it out if you have a spare machine/drive. It is superficially similar to Yosemite but you will save having to learn the differences twice in quick succession. The big difference for photographs (not necessarily for photographers, who may use Lightroom etc) is the Photos app taking over from iPhoto and to some extent Aperture. If you use iPhoto you may wish to read up on the differences.
 
It's generally considered wise to not upgrade to a newly released OS, but wait for others to find problems and Apple to (hopefully) fix them after an update or two or three. It also gives time for companies to test their software with a final release version of the OS and update their products if necessary.
 
I would definitely download Yosemite now. I can't remember for sure but I do think that the "old" version will be removed. I would like to ensure I've got a copy. You don't have to install it, but as Yosemite is fine I would wonder why you would not want to anyway.
 
Yosemite is the best version for a longtime. A very refreshing look to it.
 
Looks good, but IMO it's slowed my macbook pro down significantly.
 
Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro10,1

Processor Name: Intel Core i7

Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 4

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

L3 Cache: 6 MB

Memory: 16 GB
 
But then again it may be the amount of cr@p I've accumulated over the past couple of years. It\s particularly slow photo editing on aperture and Lightroom 5. I think I may have to do a fresh install soon.
 
Neither have I...I've done an update insitu and not noticed any speed difference as such...
 
Mavericks seemed to reduce performance, but Yosemite seemed much better on my older Macbook.
 
Many thanks everyone for your replies. I think I shall go ahead and install Yosemite...:)
 
Just had a trouble-free upgrade to Yosemite, but not really put the machine through it's paces yet. I think it looks slightly nicer on the whole.
 
I'm having terrible trouble with wifi on Yosemite. I hope the fact that El Capitan drops DiscoveryD (I think it's called that) solves the issue.
 
I'm having terrible trouble with wifi on Yosemite. I hope the fact that El Capitan drops DiscoveryD (I think it's called that) solves the issue.

The Yosemite 10.10.4 update reinstated mDNSresponder.

I'd expect El Capitan to have a reworked (and hopefully fully working) Discoveryd

Personally, I had very few problems with Discoveryd and saw them only occasionally amongst the fifty odd Macs that I administer. We're probably on about 60% Yosemite.
 
Just had a trouble-free upgrade to Yosemite, but not really put the machine through it's paces yet. I think it looks slightly nicer on the whole.


Glad you had a trouble-free upgrade, a couple of questions, please.

a) How long did it take to download, (I do understand that this can vary depending on broadband speed)?

b) How long did it take to install?

Cheers

Alan.
 
I've seen instances of mDNSResponder in Yosemite completely saturating our companies external bandwidth.
 
I've seen instances of mDNSResponder in Yosemite completely saturating our companies external bandwidth.

And this is my main gripe with osx, its quality of networking is complete balls, I've also had this problem and had to put in per-user limiting of sessions on the firewall to counter it as well as rate-limit UDP as the mac's were flooding the connection to the extent that normal TCP connections were unable to receive ACK's.

Not changed the config since as there appears to be next to no enterprise support from Apple to confirm that this is resolved
 
This is going way off topic, but I really really don't understand the obsession with Apple, despite trying.
Each time I have a reason to go near any of the Apple devices we unofficially support (MD and Video editor have them) it ends in tears.

Connect to a hidden Wi-Fi network? Doesn't work.
PXE boot and install our Windows Server dev image into Parallels? Doesn't work.
Find software to support IPSec VPN that works? Not a chance.
And as for general bandwidth consumption...

The Window's machines do just work*!

*Especially now we've dropped Server 2008/Vista
 
This is going way off topic, but I really really don't understand the obsession with Apple, despite trying.
Each time I have a reason to go near any of the Apple devices we unofficially support (MD and Video editor have them) it ends in tears.

Connect to a hidden Wi-Fi network? Doesn't work.
PXE boot and install our Windows Server dev image into Parallels? Doesn't work.
Find software to support IPSec VPN that works? Not a chance.
And as for general bandwidth consumption...

The Window's machines do just work*!

*Especially now we've dropped Server 2008/Vista
Maybe you are doing something wrong or just don't understand it. The built in IPSec vpn client (no additional software required) works just fine for me. I have no experience with parallels but VMware on the Mac has no problem with Pxe boot either. Nor connection to hidden wifi networks. Very strange how one can have such different experiences.

The only time I've come across this was with a Aruba wifi network where the certificates were wrongly configured and insecure. Windows just accepted them, but OS X refused. It took a lot of convincing with the network guys to redo their certificate properly and bingo everything started to work. The Ubuntu machine has similar issues. It was all down to an incorrectly configured network.
 
Hidden Wi-Fi network is nothing special, no certificates etc. involved. No problems with the none-hidden SSID broadcast from the same AP.
Parallels will PXE boot and would install, but then fail to boot into the new guest OS. I did spend some time trying to resolve the issue, experimenting with various drivers but it proved easier just to do a clean install for this edge case.
My understanding is the built-in IPSec VPN did work in tests if we re-configured the gateway to use IKEv1 rather than v2 or something like that. This was on Mavericks. We don't officially support anything Apple, so it's not a huge concern.
 
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