"ooh, doesnt that camera take good photos"

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another one at todays wedding.
i replied "yes, its really expensive"
" and i know how to use it properly."
the ametuer tog behind me laughed out loud.
followed by a conversation with tog about peoples daft photography comments.
her favourite one is
"are you shooting in black and white?"
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I like to spin a couple of dials, hand the camera over and ask them if they would like a go.

When they get some OOF mess of an exposure on the screen they tend to hand it back a bit quick :)
 
AliB said:
I like to spin a couple of dials, hand the camera over and ask them if they would like a go.

When they get some OOF mess of an exposure on the screen they tend to hand it back a bit quick :)
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Definately agree with this one, especially since I use back button focussing and other people with lower DSLR's dont understand why it wont focus and then why it's under/ overexposed on manual when they are used to using Auto
 
I just sigh and sarcastically agree with them.
 
inaneredstripe said:
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another one at todays wedding.
i replied "yes, its really expensive"
" and i know how to use it properly."
the ametuer tog behind me laughed out loud.
followed by a conversation with tog about peoples daft photography comments.
her favourite one is
"are you shooting in black and white?"
:shrug:
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I must be missing something. You're getting annoyed because someone says your camera takes nice photos? Sure it's the person behind the camera etc but it's hardly an insult and pretty normal for someone comment with no real interest in photography? :)

and what's wrong with asking if you are shooting B&W? were you? :D
 
akr said:
I must be missing something. You're getting annoyed because someone says your camera takes nice photos? Sure it's the person behind the camera etc but it's hardly an insult and pretty normal for someone comment with no real interest in photography? :)

and what's wrong with asking if you are shooting B&W? were you? :D
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If they were a professional wedding photographer I would assume they were shooting RAW, in which case you can't SHOOT in B+W (only select B+W as a picture style) but the image will still show up on your computer in colour.
As raw captures all the details about the colours, etc.

So in a word it's a daft question :p
 
AliB said:
I like to spin a couple of dials, hand the camera over and ask them if they would like a go.

When they get some OOF mess of an exposure on the screen they tend to hand it back a bit quick :)
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But your D700 does take nice pictures, I've seen you say it yourself! :D
 
I went to my mate's wedding a month or so ago. I've got my D40, which as you all know is a 5 year old entry level slr.

I got comments like "you have a very impressive camera" "bet it takes good photos" after letting someone have a go "how do i put it on auto"

I think the perception is that a 'big' camera will just do everything for you.
 
J4MIE_P said:
If they were a professional wedding photographer I would assume they were shooting RAW, in which case you can't SHOOT in B+W (only select B+W as a picture style) but the image will still show up on your computer in colour.
As raw captures all the details about the colours, etc.

So in a word it's a daft question :p
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You know what they say about assumptions....but sure that's a fair point, but assuming the person asking has no real interest in togging it's a fair question, could be using film you never know!

I'd assume people are just trying to be friendly, take a vague interest and ask what seem like 'daft' questions, but to the general population are fairly normal :)
 
The world unfortunately is full of people who in their own world find it hard to accept that someone else may have better equipment, better skills, a better eye, or whatever that magical part is that makes them good at what they do and propels people to throw money at them to take photo's.

Isnt however part of being professional, acting professional? If people around you want to coo, comment, or be sarcastic about the fact that you know what you are doing and have good equipment, then shouldnt we just be polite and get on with the job in hand?
 
I have been known to help people take better pictures at weddings :)

I do something like that on those (thankfully rare) occasions when you come across someone who always has a bigger and better whatever it happens to be and are trying to points score and belittle me while I work. Why should I put up with that? So if I can make my point with a smile on my face and have some fun then I will :)
 
akr said:
I must be missing something. You're getting annoyed because someone says your camera takes nice photos? Sure it's the person behind the camera etc but it's hardly an insult and pretty normal for someone comment with no real interest in photography? :)

and what's wrong with asking if you are shooting B&W? were you? :D
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I agree, it seems a shame to react to people like that when they are asking genuine questions and showing an interest or just making conversation. It must be hard for the people that know everything about everything, but for the rest of us mere mortals its nice to find out about something from someone that obviously knows about it.

I get this when on my Kawasaki Ninja, I always get old boys coming over to talk about it, or compare it to the bikes they had, but Id never make similar comments to them, I take an interest in what they have to say and vice versa.

The next time you dont know about something, think how you would feel if you asked a genuine question either showing interest or just making conversation and were met with sarcastic replies. I know I wouldnt be impressed if I was met with answers like that.
 
J4MIE_P said:
If they were a professional wedding photographer I would assume they were shooting RAW, in which case you can't SHOOT in B+W (only select B+W as a picture style) but the image will still show up on your computer in colour.
As raw captures all the details about the colours, etc.

So in a word it's a daft question :p
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not really as most people that arent into photography wouldnt even know what a raw file was. Alot of people still think a photographer takes a pictures as it as seen not goes home and spends hours changing it.
 
"i want to buy an expensive camera so i can take good pictures"
 
From what Ive seen on this forum there are some people asking some pretty stupid questions too. On the whole they get a reply without sarcasm and trying to score points off them. Could that be because sarcastic replies will get commented on?
I dont see the point in trying to make someone look small by changing settings so the questioner, who obviously has little or no knowledge of the camera cant take a usable shot.
When Im out birdwatching, or as a volunteer on Skomer and someone asks what they are looking at, I give them a straight answer without making them look small. They go away happy with a little more knowledge, and they dont have to ask that kind of "stupid" question again. I find that easier to do than waste my time being sarcastic because no one gains from it. We all get daft questions like how far can I focus with my 600mm lens?

But I think these days it is all about scoring points over others, otherwise why list all your gear under your post to show the world that you have better, and more gear than the next person?

Brian

www.brianhewittimages.co.uk
 
Agree with Al, Marcus, Ben and Brian. What's the Big Deal?
 
NigelPaul said:
Agree with Al, Marcus, Ben and Brian. What's the Big Deal?
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I'd assume the big deal is the insinuation that the camera is responsible for the shots, rather than the photographer who has put huge amounts of time, effort, and money into practising, training, and improving.

I've been in the situation once, someone complimented one of my photos, and someone else said 'yeah, he's got a HUGE camera!' It was strange, I had the headbanging feeling as I knew it would be said at some point, and also felt a bit insulted to be honest! Didn't say anything, but it made me think!

Chris
 
NigelPaul said:
Agree with Al, Marcus, Ben and Brian. What's the Big Deal?
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Jeez, the deal is that some people have all the kit and cannot get one decent shot.some people have lesser kit and take storming shots, some people have learnt to get the best from the equipment they have and some people are just lucky....................:)

Edit to add................Last year I lost a Grouse Shoot, somebodies wife had bought a DSLR Kit and could do the shots cheaper than me.OK, crack on, four days into the shooting season I was asked to return,at a premium..............
 
Actually, it IS true that big cameras (and more specifically, the good, fast glass) do take better pictures. Even the people who do know what they're talking about hanker after the better cameras because they want "better" pictures of some form, i.e. with less noise or higher resolution. Good glass makes noticeably better images than bad glass and even people who know nothing about photography realise that - makes you feel glad you spent what you did on the good glass eh?
 
BRASH said:
Aye like you:D Be off with you fool:gag:;)
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Git yoursel away and munch some trodden Aberdeen minge, ya sorry wee man.............
 
fracster said:
Git yoursel away and munch some trodden Aberdeen minge, ya sorry wee man.............
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Trodden Aiberdeen minge is something yeh widnae wint tae be munchin' oan:lol::lol:................Oh and I ain't wee
 
mustanir said:
Actually, it IS true that big cameras (and more specifically, the good, fast glass) do take better pictures. Even the people who do know what they're talking about hanker after the better cameras because they want "better" pictures of some form, i.e. with less noise or higher resolution. Good glass makes noticeably better images than bad glass and even people who know nothing about photography realise that - makes you feel glad you spent what you did on the good glass eh?
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thats only partially true.

no camera takes good pictures. the person behind the camera takes good pictures.
having an expensive camera, and no idea how to use it will produce crap compared to someone who knows what theyre doing with a poor quality camera.

once you know what youre doing, there does come a point where youre working withing the limits of your equipment, and "better" gear will expand your options. but give a chimp a hasselblad and a disposable film camera, and both images will look like crap.
 
"look at your expensive glasses, I bet they give you better eyesight" :D
 
Te Amo said:
but give a chimp a hasselblad and a disposable film camera, and both images will look like crap.
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But give an infinite number of chimps an infinite number of hasselblads and one of them will take better pictures than you! :D
 
Actually, saying the camera takes good pictures is only a manner of speaking, in much the same way as "I bet your car drives nicely," or "I expect your pen writes nicely," or "I bet your wife sha.....well, nevermind that one but you get the idea. People are really only paying you a compliment.

I don't reply, "What do you mean, my car drives nicely? It's me that floors it in second and slides the tail out around bends or thrashes a Porche away from the lights." I say something like, "Yeah, it's a beaut and goes real well" ..... similar to my reply to the comment about my wife, actually. ;) :D
 
goldenlight said:
But give an infinite number of chimps an infinite number of hasselblads and one of them will take better pictures than you! :D
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i guarantee that is false.
and if youd like to use your resources to stage a field test for your ridiculous theory, im sure you will find the same result. :D
 
Te Amo said:
i guarantee that is false.
and if youd like to use your resources to stage a field test for your ridiculous theory, im sure you will find the same result. :D
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I've got the chimps working on it right now. One has already produced a better picture than I've ever taken, and that was with the lens cap still on! :shrug:
 
I think everyone with an SLR had these comments before. My answer is always that good photos come with the right light and a keen eye. I'm always happy to hook people onto photography, if they show more curiosity afterwards.

Obviously there are some situations when certain equipment is necessary. I wouldn't fry an egg without a pan or drill a hole in a wall without a power-drill either.
 
Cistron said:
I think everyone with an SLR had these comments before. My answer is always that good photos come with the right light and a keen eye. I'm always happy to hook people onto photography, if they show more curiosity afterwards.

Obviously there are some situations when certain equipment is necessary. I wouldn't fry an egg without a pan or drill a hole in a wall without a power-drill either.
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Ah, but what sort of coating on the pan? And with power tools noise is always a big issue with me. :D
 
Cistron said:
Hahaha. Heavy thick cast-iron all the way!
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Oooh - that could open a whole new debate about the merits of FF (Full Ferrous) pans compared to lighter, more portable systems. :eek:
 
inaneredstripe said:
ooh, doesnt that camera take good photos
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In my case, shooting a 200mm f2 on a full frame body, I think that they are right.

All I need to do is to point the thing at someone's face and press the button.

I get bitingly sharp focus in an instant. The cluttered background disolves into creamy bokeh. The picture is crisp and saturated. The IS is so good that I don't have to be any good at holding it steady. The size of the glass and the noise of the thing rattling off 5FPS will often generate laughter and a spontaneous, engaging smile.

Yes, my camera (and more importantly, lens) DOES take good photos. It takes phoenominaly good photos, with almost no effort or skill from me, other than lugging the thing around and pointing it.

Andrew
 
BRASH said:
Trodden Aiberdeen minge is something yeh widnae wint tae be munchin' oan:lol::lol:................Oh and I ain't wee
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Itchy & Scratchy :D Now which one is which? :thinking:
 
u8myufo said:
Itchy & Scratchy :D Now which one is which? :thinking:
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Eh, don't start Poodle bashing :razz: That's just not on!!! :lol:

I do think we tend to get a bit too uptight about the " it must take nice pictures for you" sort of comment, I've noticed my hackles raise at similar comments, when infact they were made in all innocence.
Though, that said if you get the same comments week in week out as a pro tog' then I can see at some point you're going to get caught on a bad day and want to do a bit of :dummy: about it ;)

Tara
 
Te Amo said:
thats only partially true.

no camera takes good pictures. the person behind the camera takes good pictures.
having an expensive camera, and no idea how to use it will produce crap compared to someone who knows what theyre doing with a poor quality camera.

once you know what youre doing, there does come a point where youre working withing the limits of your equipment, and "better" gear will expand your options. but give a chimp a hasselblad and a disposable film camera, and both images will look like crap.
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Take mantra, repeat it, and repeat it again.

Comments like that are only there to make yourself feel good. Give a DSLR to someone with no idea about photography and stick it on auto mode and it'll take "better" pictures than a point & shoot in the same hands, set to auto. People aren't chimps, give them more credit ;)
 
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