One more colour Space Question (Promise)

[Paul-H]

Hi all

A quick question (I Hope)

At the moment I have the colour space in Photoshop set to Adobe1998 and I shoot in RAW so don't have anything set via the camera, I then print to a couple of low cost Epson printers R360 & 1500W

My Monitor and printer is profiled using the Datacolor spyder options.

Now the question, After profiling my two monitors (Samsung & Acer) I find that both only just manage to support sRGB which is quite a bit lower than Adobe1998 so obviously what I am seeing on the monitor is not going to be accurate for the Adobe1998 profile so should I just set the Monitor to sRGB and accept that I am not seeing a true representation of what the digital files could produce or should I stick to Adobe1998.

Can the low end Epson printers match the displayed colours of Adobe1998 or is that also only capable of printing to sRGB, it would make the answer to this question much easier if it also could only match sRGB.

The easy answer I know is get better Monitors but that is not an option open to me at the moment.

Thanks for any help with this.

Last one I promises

Paul

 

[Chappers]

The majority if not all mid priced printers are limited to around the sRGB colour space. In fact it would be interesting if you can see what colour space your monitor can display. If it is limited to around sRGB then there is no point in selecting Adobe RGB as a colour space to edit in as the monitor profile will limit the range. So if your printer is the limiting factor then working in colour space larger than sRGB is self defeating.

Don't forget though that as you are shooting RAW then the original colours are not affected by this, so if in future yu get a printer capable of extended colour gamut the original data is still there

 

[Paul-H]

Thanks for the reply, I was suspecting that was the case.

Paul

 

[Pookeyhead]

Hi all

A quick question (I Hope)

At the moment I have the colour space in Photoshop set to Adobe1998 and I shoot in RAW so don't have anything set via the camera, I then print to a couple of low cost Epson printers R360 & 1500W

My Monitor and printer is profiled using the Datacolor spyder options.

Now the question, After profiling my two monitors (Samsung & Acer) I find that both only just manage to support sRGB which is quite a bit lower than Adobe1998 so obviously what I am seeing on the monitor is not going to be accurate for the Adobe1998 profile so should I just set the Monitor to sRGB and accept that I am not seeing a true representation of what the digital files could produce or should I stick to Adobe1998.

Can the low end Epson printers match the displayed colours of Adobe1998 or is that also only capable of printing to sRGB, it would make the answer to this question much easier if it also could only match sRGB.

The easy answer I know is get better Monitors but that is not an option open to me at the moment.

Thanks for any help with this.

Last one I promises

Paul

Your monitors already ARE sRGB. If they are standard gamut screens, and you've profiled them, then in your Windows colour settings you should have the Spyder's generated .ICM profile as your standard colour space.

Even though you have sRGB monitors, you can still work in Adobe RGB in Photoshop to keep the widest colour gamut possible. You will not SEE those colours as intended, but Photoshop can still soft proof them and check for out of gamut colour. You will need a destination profile for your printers though, and I can't seem to find one online for your printer. One may have been on the original disk that came with the printer.

To be safe, I'd set Photoshop to use sRGB as the default working space.

Edit/Colour settings.. then select sRGB as the default working space as show below.

Then if you tick all three profile warning boxes as shown above, and when you open an image that isn't sRGB, it will warn you as below....

Select "Use the embedded profile (Instead of default working space)"

From then on your whole workflow for that image is sRGB.

Unless you can soft proof for your printer using a valid ICC profile, this would be best practice.

I'd only use Adobe RGB if you have screens capable of showing it, and accurate printer profiles it can be soft proofed to. Otherwise stick to sRGB.