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i have olympus E500 & E510 was going to upgrade to an E3 but
ive just bought a 5d body and now looking for lenses is there any adapter plates to fit olympus/sigma 4/3 lenses to fit canon 5d??

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No chance. 4/3 lenses are designed to project an image onto a TINY sensor. The sensor in the 5D is 4 times as big. Even if it were phyically possible to mount the lenses, you'd only get a little circular image in the middle of the frame.
 
in that case im looking for a replacement for my
sigma 50/500
olympus 18/50
olympus 55/200
and the body has IS built in
:help::help::help:
 
loltus_elan said:
in that case im looking for a replacement for my
sigma 50/500
olympus 18/50
olympus 55/200
and the body has IS built in
:help::help::help:
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Perhaps you should have thought about that before you bought the 5D?

Anyway I think the replacement strategy is fairly obvious.

Sigma 50-500mm. Your Olympus has a 2x crop factor which gives this lens the field of view of a 100-1000mm lens on the full-frame 5D. Needless to say there is no such lens. You simply can't replace this one. Your nearest equivalent would probably be the Sigma 300-800mm (£7000 at Warehouse Express).

Olympus 18-50mm. An equivalemt lens on a 5D would be 36-100mm. There's an obvious replacment, which is the Canon 24-105L. It's a great walk-around lens on the 5D. (£900)

Olympus 55-200mm. The crop factor gives this the field of view of a 110-400mm lens on the 5D, so there's an obvious replacement which is the Canon 100-400L. Great, great lens. (£1200)

I suppose now you're going to say you don't have the budget for these?
 
Hmmmm, ask yourself if you truthfully and honestly believe that the extra resolution and image quality from the 5D II over the E3 will benefit your photography. In other words, do you have a regular need for prints larger than A3 and is your work seriously of the standard that it needs every last drop of resolution and image quality to do it justice. The misunderstanding of basic principles apparent in your question leads me to doubt that this is the case.

Given your investment in 4/3 lenses I think your best option may be to cut your losses on the 5D II and trade it in for an E3, then maybe consider adding a wide-angle optic depending on the subjects you take and the type of photography you enjoy.

Olympus are doing a great deal on the E3 at the moment. Buy one and you get a choice of free lenses or flashguns, including the 9-18mm which would compliment your existing range of lenses perfectly.

IMO it would be a real shame to keep the Canon if you can only afford to fit it with budget glass. It's a fantastic camera, but that level of resolution and size of sensor will reveal any weakness in the optics.
 
hi
its a 5D not a 5DII
the lenses i was thinking about were
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon 70-200 F2.8 or the SIGMA 70 - 200mm f2.8 Lens
 
loltus_elan said:
hi
its a 5D not a 5DII
the lenses i was thinking about were
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon 70-200 F2.8 or the SIGMA 70 - 200mm f2.8 Lens
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Get the 24-105L and then a 70-200 2.8 with a TC (either canon or sigma will be fine)
 
I have a 5D and I've always been more than happy with it's performance but if I was in your shoes, it'd be gone in a blink for the nearest spec Oly body.
 
loltus_elan said:
hi
its a 5D not a 5DII
the lenses i was thinking about were
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon 70-200 F2.8 or the SIGMA 70 - 200mm f2.8 Lens
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The 28-135 would be a waste on a 5D. It's a consumer-grade lens, and not a bad one, but there's really no point having a great camera like a 5D if you're going to put lenses like that on it. The 24-105L would be much more suitable.

Do you really need a 70-200 and a 100-400? As noted above, the 100-400 is a pretty direct replacement for your Olympus 55-200, but you don't currently have anything equivalent to the 70-200. I'd suggest just getting one of these and putting the savings towards a better "walkaround" lens.
 
goldenlight said:
Hmmmm, ask yourself if you truthfully and honestly believe that the extra resolution and image quality from the 5D II over the E3 will benefit your photography. In other words, do you have a regular need for prints larger than A3 and is your work seriously of the standard that it needs every last drop of resolution and image quality to do it justice. The misunderstanding of basic principles apparent in your question leads me to doubt that this is the case.

Given your investment in 4/3 lenses I think your best option may be to cut your losses on the 5D II and trade it in for an E3, then maybe consider adding a wide-angle optic depending on the subjects you take and the type of photography you enjoy.

Olympus are doing a great deal on the E3 at the moment. Buy one and you get a choice of free lenses or flashguns, including the 9-18mm which would compliment your existing range of lenses perfectly.

IMO it would be a real shame to keep the Canon if you can only afford to fit it with budget glass. It's a fantastic camera, but that level of resolution and size of sensor will reveal any weakness in the optics.
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Yes maybe your right and should have stuck with olympus yes the E3 is there but ten i have a canon 5d with a 35-80 & a 75-300 for sale
 
loltus_elan said:
Yes maybe your right and should have stuck with olympus yes the E3 is there but ten i have a canon 5d with a 35-80 & a 75-300 for sale
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It's not an easy decision, now that you are split between two systems. Being an Oly user I am naturally biased towards the E3 but which one you ultimately decide to keep should really depend on what your main type of photography is. If you enjoy bird photography, for example, and like the magnification you get with the Sigma Bigma on the 4/3 sensor, then you might be better sticking with Oly and ditching the Canon.

On the other hand, if you do mainly landscapes keeping the Canon might be best advice, for it's better resolution and (I would imagine) dynamic range. One caveat is that you will need to use 'L' series glass to benefit from the extra quality.

For general versitility in most types of photography the E3 is probably the best option but if you do a lot of low light photography requiring ISO1600 or more than the Canon has the advantage.

They are both excellent, but very different, systems. Which one is best for you, only you can decide!
 
If you're into speed (and from your excellent pictures it seems you are) it has to be the E3. Firstly, it shoots at 5fps against 3fps with the 5D. Secondly, you already have the superb Zuiko 50-200 (100-400 equivalent on full frame) with a fast max aperture of f3.5 compared to f5.6 on the Canon equivalent.
 
goldenlight said:
If you're into speed (and from your excellent pictures it seems you are) it has to be the E3. Firstly, it shoots at 5fps against 3fps with the 5D. Secondly, you already have the superb Zuiko 50-200 (100-400 equivalent on full frame) with a fast max aperture of f3.5 compared to f5.6 on the Canon equivalent.
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P.S. Forgot to metion, if you use the 50-200mm with EC-14 teleconverter you get a 140-560mm f4/f5 equivalent. I've not tried this combo myself but results are reputed to be excellent!
 
hi
what about a CANON EF 70-200 IS f/2.8 L and add to it a X2 extender when needed ?? coupled with the 5D how would this compare??
 
loltus_elan said:
hi
what about a CANON EF 70-200 IS f/2.8 L and add to it a X2 extender when needed ?? coupled with the 5D how would this compare??
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Put a 2x Extender on it and the image quality will go down the toilet. It will take a 1.4x Extender with a noticeable but generally tolerable loss of quality, but not a 2x.
 
StewartR said:
Put a 2x Extender on it and the image quality will go down the toilet. It will take a 1.4x Extender with a noticeable but generally tolerable loss of quality, but not a 2x.
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Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS
CANON EF 70-200 IS f/2.8 L
i was thinking of the X2 to give focal lenght as i have to over come distance with quite a lot of my photography (see examples above) but would have speed of the shorter lens when distance was not such an issue????
 
loltus_elan said:
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS
CANON EF 70-200 IS f/2.8 L
i was thinking of the X2 to give focal lenght as i have to over come distance with quite a lot of my photography (see examples above) but would have speed of the shorter lens when distance was not such an issue????
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That is exactly the case for ditching the 5D and investing in an E3. The 50-200 you already own has a max aperture of f3.5 which is less than a stop slower than the Canon and that's at double the equivalent focal length of the Canon! Fit a x2 converter to the Canon and you end up with the same magnification as the Oly but at f5.6 rather than f3.5 and (with the converter) significantly worse image quality!

If you really need f2.8 at shorter focal lengths buy an Olympus 35-100mm f2 which has exactly the same equivalent focal length as the Canon but a whole stop faster!

If you were into landscapes there would be a possible, but not overwhelming, case for keeping the Canon and trading in your Oly kit. For what you do the Olympus option outscores the Canon alternative in every single aspect, be it camera spec or lens availability and image quality!

As far as cost goes it would be cheaper to trade in the 5D for an E3 and add a 35-100m than it would to buy a Canon 70-200 and 100-400.

Given your main photographic interest, I can't think of a single advantage in taking the Canon route!
 
lotus elan, why did you buy the Canon 5D?
 
HoppyUK said:
lotus elan, why did you buy the Canon 5D?
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everyone seems to use canon i wanted to know what all the fuss was about. seriously the full frame sensor i thought would allow for more agressive cropping.

:shrug:
 
If I was you, I would read up on Full Frame sensors.
 
loltus_elan said:
everyone seems to use canon i wanted to know what all the fuss was about. seriously the full frame sensor i thought would allow for more agressive cropping.

:shrug:
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If you're trying to do what I think you are, it won't work :(

If you use a 400mm lens, it produces and image of a certain size regardless of the size of the sensor. With the Olympus (and other crop format cameras) all it is doing is cropping away the rest of the full-frame image that the 5D would record, and just capturing a small section from the middle.

In effect, it is just digital cropping the full frame image. You can do the same with the 5D in post processing, but you'll end up with far less pixels than the Olympus has to start with. In other words, image quality will be worse.

You could maybe get close to what the Olympus is capable of with a Canon 5DII, which has over 20m pixels to play with, but on the original 5D you're chasing a losing game.

If you do some reading up on this stuff, you'll understand why you're getting the kind of responses here. Meanwhile, the 5D is not what you want at all. There are maybe better cameras and lenses than the Olympus out there for what you're trying to do, although that is both debatable and very costly, but the 5D is not a sports/action/long lens camera. Canon makes the 1DIII for that.
 
Flog the Canon kit (getting the coverage you already have for Oly bodies will probably bankrupt you!) and maybe consider an E-30 (when the release price drops a bit).
 
loltus_elan said:
thank you.
I now seem to have a canon 5D for sale
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Thank goodness for that!

Good luck! You may have some basic misunderstandings about cameras but you sure know how to take decent action pictures (which is far better than being someone who knows everything about cameras but can't take a picture to save his life!)
 
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