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That's the film I've gone for. What does the yellow filter add for B&W? I've used grads and nds on my dslr but I haven't done any film work before.
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It induces contrast between the tones and helps to make the negatives look less 'flat' by darkening blues and greens slightly (whilst lightening yellows). Orange and red filters also induce the same effect, but in assenting strengths (to the extent that blue skies look black with a red filter).
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... and develop for the highlights!
On the yellow filter: films are proportionally more sensitive to blue than our eyes are, and a yellow filter roughly brings the film sensitivity curve into line with our eyes. Because haze is caused by light scatter, which affects the blue end of the spectrum more than the red, a yellow filter will cut through haze; orange and red even more so. And the standard reason - white fluffy clouds. Without the filter, you may need to burn in the skies (in a darkroom) to bring out the clouds. On a bright sunny day, the shadows are illuminated by skylight, which is blue (like the sky); hence shadows are bluish, and darkened by a yellow filter. This means that it will bring out the texture in side lighted snow in sunshine. On portraits, you'll lighten the lips slightly, but also reduce any skin blemishes or freckles, an effect which orange and red will do even more strongly.
Other colours may be used, and have some specific uses. I normally carry yellow, orange, red, blue and two greens. Strictly two yellows, since one is a "minus blue".
On the yellow filter: films are proportionally more sensitive to blue than our eyes are, and a yellow filter roughly brings the film sensitivity curve into line with our eyes. Because haze is caused by light scatter, which affects the blue end of the spectrum more than the red, a yellow filter will cut through haze; orange and red even more so. And the standard reason - white fluffy clouds. Without the filter, you may need to burn in the skies (in a darkroom) to bring out the clouds. On a bright sunny day, the shadows are illuminated by skylight, which is blue (like the sky); hence shadows are bluish, and darkened by a yellow filter. This means that it will bring out the texture in side lighted snow in sunshine. On portraits, you'll lighten the lips slightly, but also reduce any skin blemishes or freckles, an effect which orange and red will do even more strongly.
Other colours may be used, and have some specific uses. I normally carry yellow, orange, red, blue and two greens. Strictly two yellows, since one is a "minus blue".
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I thought the Trip had two shutter speeds - 1/40" and 1/200" - and selected the lower one in low light situations or when using flash.
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Yeah I know it goes to 1/40 for flash - but I thought it used both in AP mode. The graph is gone now but there's a discussion about it here - talking about at what EV level it switches from 1/40 to 1/200.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/olympustrip35/discuss/72157615318255766/
https://www.flickr.com/groups/olympustrip35/discuss/72157615318255766/
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I just made a reply to another thread
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/b-w-post-pre.541634/
where I posted a colour photo and the result of converting to greyscale in Photoshop, which is pretty much what would happen if you'd used black and white film. I followed that (it's a photo of red roses and green leaves) with what you can do using ChannelMixer in Photoshop to simulate the effect of using a red and a green filter in black and white.
You can do a lot with filters to change the relative appearances of coloured objects to distinguish colours that would reproduce as the same shade of grey. Note though that there are other things you can do over and above this, which requires a longer answer.
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/b-w-post-pre.541634/
where I posted a colour photo and the result of converting to greyscale in Photoshop, which is pretty much what would happen if you'd used black and white film. I followed that (it's a photo of red roses and green leaves) with what you can do using ChannelMixer in Photoshop to simulate the effect of using a red and a green filter in black and white.
You can do a lot with filters to change the relative appearances of coloured objects to distinguish colours that would reproduce as the same shade of grey. Note though that there are other things you can do over and above this, which requires a longer answer.
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I've recently purchased a set of coloured filters for black and white photography and I've found this explanation with examples very helpful:
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/using-coloured-filters-in-black-and-white-photography
I think it's much better to buy a cheap coloured filters set than expend too much time on the computer trying to enhance your pictures, especially when you know it will not be the same results.
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/using-coloured-filters-in-black-and-white-photography
I think it's much better to buy a cheap coloured filters set than expend too much time on the computer trying to enhance your pictures, especially when you know it will not be the same results.
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Ah I see yes it says in a post below that when light drops to less than EV13 it drops to 40/1 to keep the AP smaller for better zone focus.
Thats very interesting that.
I bought an adapter for my Trip so I could use standard 52mm nikon filters.
