Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

My OM-1 arrived today. Got to say its superb:banana:

This is one of the first shots taken this afternoon
iso2000, 1/800sec, 420mm. f/5.6
The bird eye detect is amazing, got a lot of new stuff to learn.

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Very minor thing I know, but just going though the OM-1 manual and spotted something I've been wanting for some time now. and that's when using the camera with an external battery grip and obviously twin batteries, the screen now shows you the percentage charge of both batteries (not just the one in the body).
 
Sootchucker said:
Very minor thing I know, but just going though the OM-1 manual and spotted something I've been wanting for some time now. and that's when using the camera with an external battery grip and obviously twin batteries, the screen now shows you the percentage charge of both batteries (not just the one in the body).
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.... Thats good to hear as I will mostly shoot with the grip attached. On the M1X it displays which battery number is being used - 1 or 2.

No one is going to be able to say "RTFM!" to you! :LOL: (Read The Feckin Menu!)

I received my printed paper manual today.
 
I heard there has been a better than expected take up on the new camera and cameras are only being delivered to customer that ordered upto the 20th Feb everyone else will have to wait until April. That was from LCE where I ordered mine from so, it's now April for me. :(
 
Mr-Snappy said:
I heard there has been a better than expected take up on the new camera and cameras are only being delivered to customer that ordered upto the 20th Feb everyone else will have to wait until April. That was from LCE where I ordered mine from so, it's now April for me. :(
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Ahh that old Chestnut. Every new camera and lens seem to have "better than expected pre-sales (or whatever phrase they choose to use)", I can't help think it's a marketing ploy to keep demand high.
 
On charge now..... ;)

I have one peeve about the USB-C to USB-C cable, they don't supply a USB-C to USB-A Male connector.

Why a peeve, well though my PC has a single USB-C (via an expansion card I added last year to get USB 3 speeds) and yes I now have one or two external SSD storage drives using USB-C but had to buy an adaptor for them. Such adaptors are not high cost and potentially as not all newcomers to the OM-1 will have Mac or modern PC why didn't they include an adaptor!

Edit ~ note I am talking about data transfer/comms and not to charge to camera from the PC ;)
 
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wornish said:
My OM-1 arrived today. Got to say its superb:banana:

This is one of the first shots taken this afternoon
iso2000, 1/800sec, 420mm. f/5.6
The bird eye detect is amazing, got a lot of new stuff to learn.

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.... Great natural colours. And ISO 2000 too - Impressive! On my E-M1X I don't like to go above ISO 1250. I can't wait to receive my OM-1.
 
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snerkler said:
Ahh that old Chestnut. Every new camera and lens seem to have "better than expected pre-sales (or whatever phrase they choose to use)", I can't help think it's a marketing ploy to keep demand high.
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.... Hmmm, I think that the numbers of actual pre-orders factually illustrate the weight of demand. All camera manufacturers have the task of gauging that demand and producing an efficient quantity of units to satisfy it without creating unsold stock with all its inherent inefficiencies in the present day world.

Buyers of anything are fickle and also perhaps not as well off financially as in past years. It makes much better commercial sense to produce new goods efficiently and then respond to the hitherto unknown demand subsequently.

I do not see it as a marketing ploy or hype.
 
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.... Hmmm, I think that the numbers of actual pre-orders factually illustrate the weight of demand. All camera manufacturers have the task of gauging that demand and producing an efficient quantity of units to satisfy it without creating unsold stock with all its inherent inefficiencies in the present day world.

Buyers of anything are fickle and also perhaps not as well off financially as in past years. It makes much better commercial sense to produce new goods efficiently and then respond to the hitherto unknown demand subsequently.

I do not see it as a marketing ploy or hype.
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It might be my skepticism to be fair, but companies like Apple have been great at 'tactics' like this over the years and now I'm seeing it more and more with camera manufacturers. I just can't see how demand estimations are off so often. Now if it was just down to chip shortages and they can't meet demand then that would make more sense (y)
 
Re: OM-1

Just some immediate observations whilst running through the Menu:-

It is way better than the old style......as I think I commented previously/elsewhere it is very Canon like and I 'grew up' on Canon dSLR bodies ;)

It is more informative and possibly intuitive.

I like the the improvements/additions to the "File Naming" choices, though one I would like is auto folder naming based on date of shooting. But the one that caught my eye was the "MDD", ok it is the US nomenclature but seems quite a useful choice especially if you keep the file numbering continuous i.e. even if the MDD repeats each year the files will always by unique based on the whole file name ~ I hope makes sense NB I have yet to decide whether/which file naming to use :thinking:


As for settings re AF etc that will come next when put a lens on it and have play :D
I am especially hoping to set up some/a couple of Custom Sets to test with the BiF and perching. I have seen a number of mentions that the 'subject AI detection' is not fooled by branches in the way and 'locks' very quickly on whatever the subject of choice is, Bird or Animal ;)

By all accounts (so far?) it does seem that Olympus AF Subject AI has come of age in regard to the praise that the Canon R and Sony A1 (and Nikon Z9?) had received.
 
Mr-Snappy said:
I heard there has been a better than expected take up on the new camera and cameras are only being delivered to customer that ordered upto the 20th Feb everyone else will have to wait until April. That was from LCE where I ordered mine from so, it's now April for me. :(
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agh! I didn't order until the 26th.

The OM guy seemed relaxed about supply issues on the zoom he did, so I was trying to be a good girl and sell some gear first. That's what happens when you are good! :naughty::LOL:

Edit to add: I'm really pleased to read that @Box Brownie as I was nervous about the menu change. I don't have a USB C port on my computer :(

That is good that files are unique. I always date mine on import now as I ended up with some issues in Lightroom once when I went round the clock.

Looking forward to hearing more about the OM1
 
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Sootchucker said:
To be honest Jeff, in your hands I doubt you would see much difference from the MKIII vs the OM-1, as you make that camera sing !
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:agree: I can't honestly see how any camera could improve those results.
 
Initial thoughts part deux

Only tried a quick S-AF shots of random indoor and a couple of outdoor with my 12-40mm.....

Focus is very snappy and accurate

The EVF is almost like using an OVF, it is that good and clear :)

Where the image is a high ISO, a couple were ISO 10,000 (I set that as my max in Auto-ISO) I can see the very fine and regular 'film grain like' noise (I have turned off all Noise correction settings in camera) and have said from the start based on seeing online examples of high ISO images that they are based on the fine structure of the noise pattern much more pleasing to the eye.

As such and bearing in mind the only programs I can try them in is OMS WS & its Topaz based Noise AI or my standalone Topaz Noise AI, I would think that the noise is more easily handled by AI than the older bodies files.

Personally, though it is a few weeks off I want to see how DxO PL Prime AI does on these.

For now I will be shooting raw& LF jpeg to cover my bases in regard to early image editing ;) NB DxO PL and its HQ NR may be even be enough with the OM-1 jpeg files :thinking:
 
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Bebop said:
Such a beautiful bird @the black fox. I do feel sorry for you with such an outdated camera - it's obviously holding you back - not! :LOL: You really don't need an OM1
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There’s a difference between need and want . Unfortunately this year I have a lot going on at a personal level now enhanced by rising fuel prices , it may yet happen who knows , but my mkiii is only 8 months old as well and SWMBO also takes pics so price fairy stories won’t work
 
I wonder if anyone can help me, or think of something I haven't...

in preparation for buying the OM1, I sold my Olympus EM1ii to my friend (who doesn't live locally). It has been faultless for me and as he said when he received it, it looks like new. He went out and tried it with a friend's lens on it and it was fine, and today he bought a second hand lens and put that on it. He has spent some time setting it up for birds in flight and it has just died on him.

He has tried charging the battery. I asked him to press the info button (just in case he was accidentally showing a very underexposed scene). I asked him to check the card door was properly closed and to remove and reseat the lens. None of this has worked.

Can anyone think of anything else it could be?

I did once have a Canon battery die on me. It would indicate it was fully charged, but the camera wouldn't turn on with it at all. That is the only thing I can think of, unless the lens could have caused a problem? Has anyone every heard of this happening before?
 
Bebop said:
I wonder if anyone can help me, or think of something I haven't...

in preparation for buying the OM1, I sold my Olympus EM1ii to my friend (who doesn't live locally). It has been faultless for me and as he said when he received it, it looks like new. He went out and tried it with a friend's lens on it and it was fine, and today he bought a second hand lens and put that on it. He has spent some time setting it up for birds in flight and it has just died on him.

He has tried charging the battery. I asked him to press the info button (just in case he was accidentally showing a very underexposed scene). I asked him to check the card door was properly closed and to remove and reseat the lens. None of this has worked.

Can anyone think of anything else it could be?

I did once have a Canon battery die on me. It would indicate it was fully charged, but the camera wouldn't turn on with it at all. That is the only thing I can think of, unless the lens could have caused a problem? Has anyone every heard of this happening before?
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This has happened to me occasionally where it looks like the camera has died, but actually it's OK. I think I resolved the issue by switching batteries; reseating the same battery didn't work. I've also had issues in the past with the lens not registering on various Olympus bodies, mainly the E-M10II and original E-M1 MkI though.

So at a minimum I think you need to try a different battery and different lens (both preferably Olympus branded) on the body before giving up, possibly other people might have additional suggestions? Trying a different SD card may also be worth a shot.
 
Bebop said:
I wonder if anyone can help me, or think of something I haven't...

in preparation for buying the OM1, I sold my Olympus EM1ii to my friend (who doesn't live locally). It has been faultless for me and as he said when he received it, it looks like new. He went out and tried it with a friend's lens on it and it was fine, and today he bought a second hand lens and put that on it. He has spent some time setting it up for birds in flight and it has just died on him.

He has tried charging the battery. I asked him to press the info button (just in case he was accidentally showing a very underexposed scene). I asked him to check the card door was properly closed and to remove and reseat the lens. None of this has worked.

Can anyone think of anything else it could be?

I did once have a Canon battery die on me. It would indicate it was fully charged, but the camera wouldn't turn on with it at all. That is the only thing I can think of, unless the lens could have caused a problem? Has anyone every heard of this happening before?
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I have had the same thing happen on my MK 3, I did the same as Maaten and put another battery in and it worked fine. there was nearly 100% battery left in the one I took out. Hope this works for you Bebop.
 
maarten.dhaese said:
This has happened to me occasionally where it looks like the camera has died, but actually it's OK. I think I resolved the issue by switching batteries; reseating the same battery didn't work. I've also had issues in the past with the lens not registering on various Olympus bodies, mainly the E-M10II and original E-M1 MkI though.

So at a minimum I think you need to try a different battery and different lens (both preferably Olympus branded) on the body before giving up, possibly other people might have additional suggestions? Trying a different SD card may also be worth a shot.
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Christoph said:
I have had the same thing happen on my MK 3, I did the same as Maaten and put another battery in and it worked fine. there was nearly 100% battery left in the one I took out. Hope this works for you Bebop.
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Thank you both so much, that is really helpful. It is so strange as it has been faultless for me. This has been a big disappointment for both of us.

I am hoping tomorrow he can meet up with another friend of ours who has the same camera and trying his lens and battery might fix it, so fingers crossed!!
 
Bebop said:
Thank you both so much, that is really helpful. It is so strange as it has been faultless for me. This has been a big disappointment for both of us.

I am hoping tomorrow he can meet up with another friend of ours who has the same camera and trying his lens and battery might fix it, so fingers crossed!!
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Without knowing the exact circumstances of use , it’s hard to define .. I.e has your friend changed something in the menu and forgotten to mention it .. it’s rare for one to just cease working without a cause
 
OK guys, had my OM-1 in my hands for just a short few hours, and mainly just played about with it, and got it set up similar to my EM1 MKIII, so here are my very initial observations (good and bad).

High ISO noise - I know this is a hot topic at the moment, but simply in my very initial testing, I can't see much if any difference between images from the EM1 MK III and the OM-1. If there is a difference it's very subtle, and maybe the noise on the OM-1 has a more film grain characteristic that the MK 3, but like I say it's minor - very minor. That's not to say I'm disappointed as I always thought for the size of the sensor the M4/3 bodies punched above their weight anyway.

EVF - night and day compared to the EM1-X and MK3 - so clear, sharp with good contrast and saturation (I always found the EVF's on the former 2 cameras to be lacking in contrast and therefore looked a little washed out).

Rear Screen - A subtle but noticeable improvement in sharpness and detail.

Body - a bit of a mixed bag for me this one but mostly positive. In the hand the OM-1 feels very similar to the MK3 (as you would assume), but the slightly deeper grip and more "sticky" controls means it feels really nice in the hand. I'd still prefer to have the Menu button brought down below the 4 way pad on the right side of the camera (as it was on the MK2) but those coming from the MK3 will feel right at home. The rear dial however now being recessed (liked the one on the EM1X) for some strange reason doesn't feel as comfortable to reach or as easy to operate as that on the MK3 (or even my EM1-X). Don't know what it is but it seems to need a much more deliberate push from your finger that wasn't there on the MK3 - maybe I'll get used to it ? Finally I also think when the monitor is closed against the body for protection, the rear cover just being "logo-less" and having a faux leather covering seems a bit plain - not a big thing but I think it would have looked way cooler to have the OM Systems, Olympus or OM-1 logo pressed into the back - but like I say that's just purely aesthetics.

Menus, again another mixed bag for me but mostly positive. OM-Systems have obviously thought hard about simplifying the menus and to a degree it works really week, and using a left to right structure (rather than up and down), makes better use of the screen's real estate. However there are two things that bug me about the menus (both of which could be solved in firmware). The first is that when in a sub menu (say the AF menu), and you are navigating as usual using the 4 way D-pad, you can't go from different menu main headers using the D-Pad, but instead have to use the front command dial. It's not a biggie, but on the MK3, EM1-X (and other OMD cameras for that point), when you are in a menu set, you can hit the left arrow key twice to take you to the "root" of the menus so you could go from say shooting, to playback, to custom settings etc using the up and down arrow keys, then just hit right and you are back in the menus. On the OM-1, you can't do that (or at least I've not found a way to do it). As said instead you have to use the front command dial to go from menu header to menus header - not a bigger, but in my mind also not quite as intuitive. The second "gripe" I have with the menus is that they are not touch enabled, so whilst in the menus the rear screen does nothing if using your finger - like I said, maybe firmware update will solve that ?

AF - Early days so I've not really had time to really test this (will try today) but it certainly locks on very quickly. Tried it on my two manic jet black Cocker Spaniels with Cat/Dog subject detection on, and to my amazement it locked onto their eye immediately. Now as I saw these are jet back dogs and all my previous cameras (included my Nikon Z's) lose focus on them very quickly as there's little to no contrast - so kudos OM-1 but much more testing required.

Finally (for now), OM-Systems, have corrected one of my biggest gripes for the OMD system, and that is when reviewing an image, you never had the opportunity to see the shooting data (shutter speed, aperture ISO etc), unless you used the INFO button to switch to the histogram view, then you are presented with a tiny thumbnail of your image. Well I'm pleased to say that in the standard image review screen, the shooting data now appears at the bottom. Don't know if that's because the rear screen has more resolution and therefore can display the data in small fonts and still be legible - but whatever, it's a nice feature.

That's it for now.
 
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