Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

lunar22 said:
yes, it's the Z6. To be honest, the chances of it not still being with me in another year's time are fairly slim. Of course the Z9 is a game-changer with focus tracking now supposedly intuitive and sophisticated enough face/eye detect to keep with the best of the competition. Automatically bringing down a dust shield when the camera is off is a biggie -- something which should have been implemented in all mirrorless cameras years ago in my view (although my EM5 never had problems in that area). Of course a Z9 is completely overkill for me but a trickle down of the most important developments like these means that perhaps next year, the Z6iii might exist and come into consideration.
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The Z9 does look a seriously good bit of kit, although I’m not interested in the big bodies. Is the dust shield simply that shutter closing or is it a specific shield?
 
snerkler said:
The Z9 does look a seriously good bit of kit, although I’m not interested in the big bodies. Is the dust shield simply that shutter closing or is it a specific shield?
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Specific shield. It only has electronic shutter.
 
trevorbray said:
Specific shield. It only has electronic shutter.
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I keep wondering whether to use the shutter closing on my A9-II for when I change lenses but people have put me off saying how fragile the shutter is, although I'm not sure how you'd touch the shutter when you change lenses? Hopefully the Z9 shield is more robust.
 
snerkler said:
I keep wondering whether to use the shutter closing on my A9-II for when I change lenses but people have put me off saying how fragile the shutter is, although I'm not sure how you'd touch the shutter when you change lenses? Hopefully the Z9 shield is more robust.
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I would have thought that a shutter shield can't be much more robust than a mechanical shutter, due to limitations on size, material, etc. It's just common sense not to poke the thing, neither the shield nor the shutter! ;)
 
snerkler said:
I keep wondering whether to use the shutter closing on my A9-II for when I change lenses but people have put me off saying how fragile the shutter is, although I'm not sure how you'd touch the shutter when you change lenses? Hopefully the Z9 shield is more robust.
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I think if you are careful, then it is unlikely to be a problem.
Of course, it's those that are careless when changing lenses that are most at risk of getting dust spots, and so most need this option on - and most likely to end up damaging the shutter!
 
Stephen L said:
I would have thought that a shutter shield can't be much more robust than a mechanical shutter, due to limitations on size, material, etc. It's just common sense not to poke the thing, neither the shield nor the shutter! ;)
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It doesn't have to open / close in 1/8000s, or at 20 fps, so can be a bit more robust if needed.
 
snerkler said:
I keep wondering whether to use the shutter closing on my A9-II for when I change lenses but people have put me off saying how fragile the shutter is, although I'm not sure how you'd touch the shutter when you change lenses? Hopefully the Z9 shield is more robust.
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I use it. I spoke with a Sony rep that said it's robust enough to be used for that.
 
Faldrax said:
It doesn't have to open / close in 1/8000s, or at 20 fps, so can be a bit more robust if needed.
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I do realise that, but basically you don’t want to be poking into that hole when you’re changing lenses. :)
 
I took my em3 with the 300mm f4 + 1.4 converter on my afternoon dog walk today to practise BIF. I didn't do much of that but was quite pleased with the quality of these shots of an egret feeding. I should have lowered the speed to get a cleaner image with the corresponding lower ISO but am impressed with the image sharpness. Both are crops but the close up is quite a heavy crop.
egret fishing by Gordon Ford, on Flickr
fishy snack by Gordon Ford, on Flickr
 
Very nice Gordon looks like your getting to grips with it
 
mazdaman said:
Sorry should said faceplate side that mounts tc to the body here's a quick snap from my phoneView attachment 340620
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Can I ask how old is your TC?

I note it is "Made in China".......and though I think I should check, I think(?) mine is branded as 'Made in Vietnam". AFAIK it did take Olympus some time to transfer all manufacturing to Vietnam i.e. possibly at some point both factories were making them.........and I wonder of those that have experienced such screw loosening, they all were from China???
 
wornish said:
According to the M43 Rumors site the new WOW camera will probably be announced in late February at the CP+ show.

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Quite possibly......

If the "OM Systems Pursuit of......" videos here
Are coming every 2 weeks that mean the 5 of the 5 due will be released on 25th February (or thereabouts, if my count is off a day or so???)

So, only time tell :thinking:

PS As I have said previously I do hope OM Systems will, honour the way Olympus supported the bodies, with some nice usefull firmware improvement updates :D
 
Box Brownie said:
Can I ask how old is your TC?

I note it is "Made in China".......and though I think I should check, I think(?) mine is branded as 'Made in Vietnam". AFAIK it did take Olympus some time to transfer all manufacturing to Vietnam i.e. possibly at some point both factories were making them.........and I wonder of those that have experienced such screw loosening, they all were from China???
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It is a good question as the production origin and what rate failure is from either China or Vietnam Olympus have asked for the TC to sent back to them for repair let's see what happens next
 
Faldrax said:
I think if you are careful, then it is unlikely to be a problem.
Of course, it's those that are careless when changing lenses that are most at risk of getting dust spots, and so most need this option on - and most likely to end up damaging the shutter!
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Isn't the shutter and sensor on interchangeable cameras around an inch or so "inside"? Therefore how on earth would you prod the shutter or the sensor unless intentionally? No lens have a diameter that would allow them to "fall" inside?
 
re the above shots , I have been trying something out over the last week to help with hand-holding with the 100-400 and keeping the focus point on the birds eye.. if you go into the top camera menu and switch on digital t.c then assign it to a button . it enlarges the central portion of the image x2 to act as a focussing aid ( if shooting in RAW) it seems this also works in some video modes to .. I'm finding it really helpful and getting a very good hit rate with it to .
does not work very well with b.i.f but for static targets its ideal .. I have assigned mine to the exp comp button behind the shutter button so its becoming a muscle remembering function
 
stickytape said:
Isn't the shutter and sensor on interchangeable cameras around an inch or so "inside"? Therefore how on earth would you prod the shutter or the sensor unless intentionally? No lens have a diameter that would allow them to "fall" inside?
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No (at least, not on my A6000, where the body is only 1" thick) - I would estimate the mount is ~5mm deep, and the shutter is 2-3mm in from that (I don't have the option to close the shutter when powered down, so can't easily check).
With a modicum of care, it should be easy to avoid touching the shuttter - my point is that it's people who are careless when changing lenses who are both most likely to end up with dust on the sensor, AND most likely to accidentally have something touch the shutter while it's exposed.
 
the black fox said:
re the above shots , I have been trying something out over the last week to help with hand-holding with the 100-400 and keeping the focus point on the birds eye.. if you go into the top camera menu and switch on digital t.c then assign it to a button . it enlarges the central portion of the image x2 to act as a focussing aid ( if shooting in RAW) it seems this also works in some video modes to .. I'm finding it really helpful and getting a very good hit rate with it to .
does not work very well with b.i.f but for static targets its ideal .. I have assigned mine to the exp comp button behind the shutter button so its becoming a muscle remembering function
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Thanks for this tip, I have assigned mine to the L-Fn button on my 300mm which I use with the 1.4TC. It does make focusing easier.
The goldfinch shots are superb.
 
Any tips on how to improve the out of focus area behind the bird when I shoot through double glazing. The grass behind looks simply awful and I have tried a few techniques in post processing but it always comes out yuk.

Here is an example shot using my 300mm + 1.4TC

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wornish said:
Any tips on how to improve the out of focus area behind the bird when I shoot through double glazing. The grass behind looks simply awful and I have tried a few techniques in post processing but it always comes out yuk.

Here is an example shot using my 300mm + 1.4TC

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Before I got my 300 f4 I read some reports of the bokeh having a 'squirrly' look(in some situations?). Such AFAIK only happens where the background is not far enough away and more isolated from the subject.

Having said that, in the case of the above image.......the Greenfinch is not sharp, the focus is slightly forward of the bird on the grass. That will possibly exacerbate the effect of the bokeh because the bird is not fully sharp.

NB I am currently viewing on my phone.

Edit ~ I missed that it was shot through DG..............none too sure of what impact that could/would/might have :thinking:
 
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Faldrax said:
No (at least, not on my A6000, where the body is only 1" thick) - I would estimate the mount is ~5mm deep, and the shutter is 2-3mm in from that (I don't have the option to close the shutter when powered down, so can't easily check).
With a modicum of care, it should be easy to avoid touching the shuttter - my point is that it's people who are careless when changing lenses who are both most likely to end up with dust on the sensor, AND most likely to accidentally have something touch the shutter while it's exposed.
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Can you please continue this conversation in a Sony thread !!
 
wornish said:
Any tips on how to improve the out of focus area behind the bird when I shoot through double glazing. The grass behind looks simply awful and I have tried a few techniques in post processing but it always comes out yuk.

Here is an example shot using my 300mm + 1.4TC

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I think it may well depend on your windows. I have 3 glazed panels and one of them gives me noticeably worse results than the others.

This was taken with the 300mm at f/4 through double glazing at ISO 6400 - no processing so you can see how it looks warts and all - other than the lens correction in Photolab. The grass in the near background looks fine to me. I don't have any with the 1.4 TC through the glazing. I guess the smaller aperture doesn't work in your favour.


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And here I have raised the exposure slightly and then used the Deep Prime noise reduction and downsized it for TP. It would benefit from more processing, but I just wanted to show you the difference with those minor tweaks.

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My goldfinch shots are through DG to and at a oblique angle , so doubt that’s anything to do with the windows
 
the black fox said:
My goldfinch shots are through DG to and at a oblique angle , so doubt that’s anything to do with the windows
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Yes perhaps more to do with the shortcomings of having the extender attached, but I do have one DG window that I don't even attempt to shoot through.

Edit - goldfinch is with the 100-400?
 
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wornish said:
Any tips on how to improve the out of focus area behind the bird when I shoot through double glazing. The grass behind looks simply awful and I have tried a few techniques in post processing but it always comes out yuk.

Here is an example shot using my 300mm + 1.4TC

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I've given up trying to get decent shots through the windows in our house. Some windows produce much worse effects than others.
 
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The red squirrel shots both look fine. Thanks for the ideas. I think it's probably a combination of using the extender and the glass in the window.
 
Bebop said:
Yes perhaps more to do with the shortcomings of having the extender attached, but I do have one DG window that I don't even attempt to shoot through.

Edit - goldfinch is with the 100-400?
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Yes it is
 
mulch said:
I’ve seen that scene many times(only live a mile away), yet never thought it warranted a photo……how wrong I was, that’s a cracking image. The steam from the boilers adds atmosphere.
If I did have one critique, it would be the label on the right bin……..but apart from that
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Thanks for your kind comments. Regarding the label, my style is to shoot it as it is. Others may argue that the bins should be neatly arranged. Again, that’s not me :)
 
Re the earlier posts reporting loose screw fixings on the Olympus MC-14 mount facing body, I had the same problem with just one screw becoming loose.

Because I was mainly shooting with the Olympus 100-400mm non-Pro lens at the time and wasn't completely satisfied with the feel of mounting that lens anyway (I find the Pro lenses noticeably better because they have less movement*) I was regularly checking the lens fit to body (checked on both my M1X bodies). I shot thousands with that lens, now sold.

It was examined and fixed by Olympus approved repairers AJ Johnstone in Scotland (I sent it direct) under warranty and they checked my MC-20 at the same time and it had nothing loose.

* I spoke to Olympus about lack of tightness mounting that lens months before any screw came loose and they said it wasn't a problem - They were aware of it and said it was down to the different build quality from the Pro lenses. The questionable quality of fit certainly had absolutely no detrimental effects to image quality.

Since AJ Johnstone serviced both my TCs, the MC-14 lives on my much heavier ED 150-400mm TC Pro 90% of the time and everything fits very tightly and snugly giving me lots of confidence.
 
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wornish said:
According to the M43 Rumors site the new WOW camera will probably be announced in late February at the CP+ show.

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.... I haven't read the M43 Rumors link as I generally don't rely on rumour sites.

But 'WOW' is such an average-consumer-market name for any camera in my opinion. The name doesn't sit comfortably in a Pro range. The name would also devalue rather than uphold the branding of the ED-M1 series bodies too. It sounds plasticky to me.

Can you visualise a flagship prosumer body with 'WOW' etched on it? Am I wrong? - Nobody knows yet but I would be very tempted to bet I am right in this case.
 
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I doubt very much it will have wow on it ,bets are they will come up with less complicated naming / numbering system than is currently used though .. just hope it’s up to the hype
 
RedRobin said:
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But 'WOW' is such an average-consumer-market name for any camera in my opinion. The name doesn't sit comfortably in a Pro range. The name would also devalue rather than uphold the branding of the ED-M1 series bodies too. It sounds plasticky to me.

Can you visualise a flagship prosumer body with 'WOW' etched on it? Am I wrong? - Nobody knows yet but I would be very tempted to bet I am right in this case.
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It's simply marketing hype to attract attention no more than that. No way they will have wow on the actual camera - why would they?

If the technical spec leapfrogs what the competition offer then they can make the claim, if not then no one will care.

That said, I am not holding my breath.
 
wornish said:
It's simply marketing hype to attract attention no more than that. No way they will have wow on the actual camera - why would they?

If the technical spec leapfrogs what the competition offer then they can make the claim, if not then no one will care.

That said, I am not holding my breath.
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.... Which is exactly the point I made in my post [highlit in bold].

So 'WOW' is a descriptive adjective not a camera title. People ought to be more clear on the hyperinterwebbynet.

It's good for photographers if the brands are trying to always leapfrog their competition - Canon have up'd their full-frame game recently but they always take their time to get it right.
 
WOW stands for World Of Widgets :D
 
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