Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

Small, wifi, weather proof, good continuous AF (please!), on reflection that sounds pretty much like my perfect m43 camera.
 
Nawty said:
Small, wifi, weather proof, good continuous AF (please!), on reflection that sounds pretty much like my perfect m43 camera.
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Where have you seen the info about weather sealing etc? HI res doesn't bother me as I don't use it on the EM5-II, but 20MP would be nice, assuming it doesn't add extra noise.
 
snerkler said:
Where have you seen the info about weather sealing etc? HI res doesn't bother me as I don't use it on the EM5-II, but 20MP would be nice, assuming it doesn't add extra noise.
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Hmm, maybe I made that bit up in my excitement :D

It was a wish list really, will probably have to wait until the EM1ii for all that but if Olympus are that confident that the Pen-F will be worth the high price tag that can only be a good thing.
 
Although the novel features attract all the attention, for me the highest priority should be the sensor. It's not that the current one is bad, just that it's getting quite old now (5yrs+ I believe) and in order to stay competitive they need to jump back up towards the top of the pile, especially as they seem to have policy of re-using the same sensor across several cameras.

Request: One of those lovely ISO invariant Sony chips with amazing shadow recoverability please Oly. I'd rather have cleaner high ISOs than a big jump in megapixels, but I suspect you've known for a long time that that high MP doesn't work too well with m4/3 which is why you're developing the sensor shift tech. Add a few hundred cross-type PDAF points and faster sensor readout times to help with AF tracking, and you're on to a winner (again!).
 
I've switched back to m43 at just the right time. Very interested in the Pen-F.
 
My favourite sentence from the link

The sources also said that while the price may be set high the PEN-F will be really feature many improvements and features that will make it better than any current Olympus MFT camera.
 
Yep, goes without saying that surely ( if it was "English" ). Otherwise they'd be making and trying to sell a worse camera which is a rubbish strategy.
 
I wonder if they've managed to engineer the 1/60th sensor shift capability already? That would go a long way to justifying a high price tag because they could market it as the best of both worlds - super small and fast (what m3/4 is best at) and a 50MP high res monster (usable in many situations). Why have an A7Rii when you can have a PEN-F.....
 
Managed to bag myself a cheap em10 (from Facebook of all places) and on initial tests, it's looking good for the long exposure difference between the em10 and em1, haven't managed to look on the computer yet but on screen I can't quit believe how much better the "entry level" is compared to the "flagship" for this type of image. May post comparisons later
 
Xenon54 said:
I wonder if they've managed to engineer the 1/60th sensor shift capability already? That would go a long way to justifying a high price tag because they could market it as the best of both worlds - super small and fast (what m3/4 is best at) and a 50MP high res monster (usable in many situations). Why have an A7Rii when you can have a PEN-F.....
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I'm lead to believe that the data output from the Sony sensor chip isn't yet fast enough to do handheld - that's a hardware issue and won't be fixed with firmware.

milster said:
Managed to bag myself a cheap em10 (from Facebook of all places) and on initial tests, it's looking good for the long exposure difference between the em10 and em1, haven't managed to look on the computer yet but on screen I can't quit believe how much better the "entry level" is compared to the "flagship" for this type of image. May post comparisons later
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I'm going to keep my EPM2 because of this, supposedly even better than the EM5.
 
Apart from me missing focus and the wb being slightly different these were both shot using the same settings with NR turned off. They are approximately 4.5 minute exposures which I would shoot quite a lot. EM10 is the top image and EM1 bottom, as you can see the em10 doesn't suffer from this horrible multi coloured noise (or whatever it is) anywhere near as much as the EM1. So as I said earlier, things are looking good, nned to do some real world testing but I certainly think theres a possiblity the Nikon gear could be on it's way out. These are 100% crops by the way



 
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milster said:
Apart from me missing focus and the wb being slightly different these were both shot using the same settings with NR turned off. They are approximately 4.5 minute exposures which I would shoot quite a lot. EM10 is the top image and EM1 bottom, as you can see the em10 doesn't suffer from this horrible multi coloured noise (or whatever it is, which) anywhere near as much as the EM1. So as I said earlier, things are looking good, nned to do some real world testing but I certainly think theres a possiblity the Nikon gear could be on it's way out. These are 100% crops by the way



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Wow, that's bad. What do you shoot for 5mins exposure out of interest?
 
On another note, while messing around this evening I've obviously knocked a setting somewhere, now when I put the EM1 into live bulb/live time/live composite mode the back screen dims, any ideas anyone?
 
milster said:
On another note, while messing around this evening I've obviously knocked a setting somewhere, now when I put the EM1 into live bulb/live time/live composite mode the back screen dims, any ideas anyone?
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Anything to do with live view boost?
 
I'm about to change to an Oly system and just wanted to ask EM1 or EM5? I've been trying to decide all day which would be my best choice but just can't make the decision.
If I go for the 5 I can afford more or better lenses but if I get the 1 will I be happier moving forward? Just need help maybe from someone who has or has used both. I know it's my choice ultimately but there seems pros and cons whichever way I go. My main interest is nature / wildlife with a bit of Landscape work.
Help please!!
 
Inside, the EM1 has a different sensor with pdaf focussing. And can merge focus stacked images. And the 5ii has high resolution mode. The rest is the same.
Outside, the EM1 has a larger grip and is 9mm taller. It also has a flip up screen. The 5ii comes with a neater, swivel and tilt flash. It has an articulated screen.
 
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Inside, the EM1 has a different sensor with pdaf focussing. And can merge focus stacked images. And the 5ii has high resolution mode. The rest is the same.
Outside, the EM1 has a larger grip and is 9mm taller. It also has a flip up screen. The 5ii comes with a neater, swivel and tilt flash. It's has an articulated screen.
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Thanks. Would you say the EM 1 is a better camera overall aside from these differences?
 
No. You have to choose which of those things are important to you. For me size is huge. I mean, a small size is important. So the 5ii wins. For some, a big grip is important. It's swings and elefants. And don't get people started on whether the flip up screen or the articulated screen in best. They both have pros and cons. Flip up is quicker, but articulated works in portrait mode. Most don't bother with the high res mode in the 5ii.
 
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You have to choose which of those things are important to you. For me size is huge. I mean, a small size is important. For some, a big grip is important. It's swings and elefants.
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Being a newbie to M43 I guess I've favoured the EM1 because it is bigger and I like the grip but I'm also conscious of size and weight too - probably splitting hairs though as 9mm isn't that much bigger especially when coming from DSLR background.
Would you say the original EM5 is still a viable option or not?
Sorry lots of questions but I am grateful for your advice.
 
The mark 1 EM5 has irritating ergonomics, no wifi and no focus peaking. But the low price and the same good sensor, compensate for that a bit.
 
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The mark 1 has crummy ergonomics, no wifi and no focus peaking. But the low price and the same sensor make up for that a bit.
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Cheers, really appreciate your help. I think I'm going for the EM1, now for lenses...that's gonna be fun!
 
milster said:
Apart from me missing focus and the wb being slightly different these were both shot using the same settings with NR turned off. They are approximately 4.5 minute exposures which I would shoot quite a lot. EM10 is the top image and EM1 bottom, as you can see the em10 doesn't suffer from this horrible multi coloured noise (or whatever it is, which) anywhere near as much as the EM1. So as I said earlier, things are looking good, nned to do some real world testing but I certainly think theres a possiblity the Nikon gear could be on it's way out. These are 100% crops by the way



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Thats a serious difference Gary I need to test my E-M5 mkII to see how it does at this.
 
@wardy07 I came from a d7000 to an em-10 and it was great but almost too small. When I first got the em1, I first thought "it-oh, too big" ( there isn't much in it ... ) but after a few days, I realised that it sat better in my hand and is better balanced.

I have a lowepro 102aw slingshot and in it is the e-m1, 12-40 pro, o25 1.8, samyang 7.5 fisheye, p35-100 2.8, o75-300ii, 2 spare batteries, charger and lead, spare cards, some filters and a few other bits and pieces. When I had the Nikon, I got the body, 35 and 70-300 and was done pretty much
 
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If you are getting the EM1 the answer is simple, just get the 12-40 pro lens. I own pretty much all the primes and I barely ever use them except for specialist situations, the 12-40 is really very good.

This combo lacks the compact cuteness of the smaller versions with a prime (EM10+17mm f/1.8 is a lovely little setup) but it just works for pretty much any situation.
 
damianmkv said:
@wardy07 I came from a d7000 to an em-10 and it was great but almost too small. When I first got the em1, I first thought "it-oh, too big" ( there isn't much in it ... ) but after a few days, I realised that it sat better in my hand and is better balanced.

I have a lowepro 102aw slingshot and in it is the e-m1, 12-40 pro, o25 1.8, samyang 7.5 fisheye, p35-100 2.8, o75-300ii, 2 spare batteries, charger and lead, spare cards, some filters and a few other bits and pieces. When I had the Nikon, I got the body, 35 and 70-300 and was done pretty much
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You found a 35-100?
 
I might add to that, when I first went for the M4/3 I thought the 12-40 was going against why I bought into the system but after using the system for some time I've realised its still way smaller and lighter than dslr equivilant
 
milster said:
I might add to that, when I first went for the M4/3 I thought the 12-40 was going against why I bought into the system but after using the system for some time I've realised its still way smaller and lighter than dslr equivilant
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The same, I much preferred the smallness of my EM10 but after a while I just kept going to the EM1 for everything except weekend trips away, for which the EM10 was used (often with the 12-40) until it got smashed in NYC.

Edit. thinking about it I'd almost go as far to say buy the 12-40 first and then see what body you have funds for.
 
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@wardy07 I came from a d7000 to an em-10 and it was great but almost too small. When I first got the em1, I first thought "it-oh, too big" ( there isn't much in it ... ) but after a few days, I realised that it sat better in my hand and is better balanced.

I have a lowepro 102aw slingshot and in it is the e-m1, 12-40 pro, o25 1.8, samyang 7.5 fisheye, p35-100 2.8, o75-300ii, 2 spare batteries, charger and lead, spare cards, some filters and a few other bits and pieces. When I had the Nikon, I got the body, 35 and 70-300 and was done pretty much
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Very helpful and informative, thanks for that. I will consider the 12 - 40 as I like the idea of having fewer but better lenses but also was looking at the 50-200 pro also for the reach - but is the 75-300 ii a better option with the 12-40?
 
The 50-200 is a 4/3 lens so you will need an adapter and also you will need to get the EM1 for it to have any level of autofocus, that said the 50-200 is a far far better lens than the 75-300 which is a bit soft and slow at the long end. You can also put a TC on the 50-200.

My travel kit consists of the 12-40 and the cheap 40-150 which is actually a very good lens for the money - small, light and sharp if a little slow.
 
wardy07 said:
I'm about to change to an Oly system and just wanted to ask EM1 or EM5? I've been trying to decide all day which would be my best choice but just can't make the decision.
If I go for the 5 I can afford more or better lenses but if I get the 1 will I be happier moving forward? Just need help maybe from someone who has or has used both. I know it's my choice ultimately but there seems pros and cons whichever way I go. My main interest is nature / wildlife with a bit of Landscape work.
Help please!!
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If you're interested in wildlife I'd say the EM1 is better, AF-C on the rest of the Ollies isn't great tbh but the EM1 is half decent at AF-C and tracking.
 
Nawty said:
If you are getting the EM1 the answer is simple, just get the 12-40 pro lens. I own pretty much all the primes and I barely ever use them except for specialist situations, the 12-40 is really very good.

This combo lacks the compact cuteness of the smaller versions with a prime (EM10+17mm f/1.8 is a lovely little setup) but it just works for pretty much any situation.
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The 12-40mm is my most used lens on the Olly, but I still prefer the 45mm f1.8 for portraits.
 
Agreed. The 45 is awesome - amazing for around £110.

That said, I sold mine as part of my "de-clutter" rationalisation :)
 
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