Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

I'm surprised you're still struggling with it, David. I know I'm awesome and you're juuuuust above rubbish ;) :exit: so you should cope.

What "pop" are you looking for that you're not seeing yet ?
 
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I think that the issue here is that you are in search of that perfect camera, and that perfect lens which makes the perfect super sharp, detailed and vibrant images all the time, with no effort. You pixel peep ( as do I ).

The d7000 was part there but the hit and miss focussing of the 85 made us both look elsewhere. I also wanted to down size my kit bag. So m43 was the answer for me. And it's part the answer for you too. I almost feel like you felt a better photographer with a dslr because that's what others perceive....

As we've said before, the next step is FF. The cost will be considerable and I bet that you still wouldn't be 100% with it 100% of the time.

The real answer is to stop being so damn self critical ( I know it's tough as I want the best from my snaps ) and actually be pleased with your work. You've got a good eye for a photo, good processing and good knowledge. Remember what got you hooked on this hobby in the first place - enjoy taking pictures and creating memories. If you continue to search for that perfect camera which doesn't exist, you'll end up hating cameras
 
Thanks Ned. A good summary and pretty much what I thought tbh. I have been considering a D610 and the older Sigma 50mm f1.4 as from what I have seen it seems to render the BG a little nicer.

Damian, not sure. A lack of dof for one, metering is completely different to what I was used to. BUT... I see loads of awesome shots from m43 so I know it's possible, I just haven't connected aswell as I had hoped.

I have someone on my Flickr feed who seems to use a 50mm f1.8 on a D800 and his little girl seems almost 3d, hard to explain really, she really does seem to spring out of the pic.

I see there is a wanted add in the classifieds for an em10........... :rolleyes:
 
damianmkv said:
I think that the issue here is that you are in search of that perfect camera, and that perfect lens which makes the perfect super sharp, detailed and vibrant images all the time, with no effort. You pixel peep ( as do I ).

The d7000 was part there but the hit and miss focussing of the 85 made us both look elsewhere. I also wanted to down size my kit bag. So m43 was the answer for me. And it's part the answer for you too. I almost feel like you felt a better photographer with a dslr because that's what others perceive....

As we've said before, the next step is FF. The cost will be considerable and I bet that you still wouldn't be 100% with it 100% of the time.

The real answer is to stop being so damn self critical ( I know it's tough as I want the best from my snaps ) and actually be pleased with your work. You've got a good eye for a photo, good processing and good knowledge. Remember what got you hooked on this hobby in the first place - enjoy taking pictures and creating memories. If you continue to search for that perfect camera which doesn't exist, you'll end up hating cameras
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Yeah, I'd agree with that in the main.
 
I'll give you a tenner for the O25 when you sell up next week ;)
 
Ok, so here's the type of shot (D610, 50 1.4) I wonder if I could achieve on M4/3, this shot was actually boosted by about a stop in post and look how clean the blacks are and the subject just pops nicely.

Vietnam-4448 by Ned Awty, on Flickr
 
Range test with the 75-300 this afternoon as sunset was approaching. It's a little mushy in the detail ( ISO 1250 and a fair crop ) but the fort is 1 mile off shore :o


spitbank fort by damianmkv, on Flickr
 
Please excuse me as write this post pub, but @damianmkv is speaking truly - you like myself always want more than can truly be offered - we cannot have small size, light weight and perfect exposure, autofocus and shallow DoF - these simply do now exist in the real world - even getting shallow DoF vs reach is impossible (ie full frame vs x2 crop) so in short the perfect camera does not exist.
 
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I think i'd prefer the best IQ over size, weight, crop etc.

Anyway...

Been playing in Lr with an image i took last weekend. I've uploaded the sooc RAW aswell as my original edit, but i have also re-edited the shot which i feel (for my tastes) is better with some of the added pop that i like my images to have. I like to shoot into the sun so i think it's down to the limited dynamic range. I think i need to invest in a flash that is portable before anything else, so either the i40 or more than likely the 600R so i can use the e-m10's RC mode.

So... Here goes. As much as all the purist photographers say 'get it right in camera' sometimes (ok, alot of the time!) i fail so with the help of Lightroom i can usually get it to somewhere where i want it to be. Shoot me.

SOOC RAW:


Original edit:

Laura by David Raynham, on Flickr

New Edit:

Laura Re-Edit by David Raynham, on Flickr

I felt the original edit was a bit too grey and flat. Hopefully with a new approach i can live with the e-m10. Perhaps.
 
New edit is much better, more what i would expect. What did you do? :)

There definitely does seem something 'different' about the exposure system on the Olympus - mine constantly underexposes. The good news is that you can adjust the preset exposure levels to +0.3 (or whatever) without having to use exposure comp, which is a great feature - I just need to learn the sensors capability so that I know if it's better to over or under expose. The D610 underexposes a little but that doesn't matter as you can push the shadows soooo much in post with little ill effect and by under exposing you could preserve more highlights.
 
You're never going to correctly expose the subject and the background in a single shot when shooting into the sun, you'll need a fill flash as you say

I prefer the re-edit, it's much stronger as Laura stands out from the background more.

One from yesterday - George was pleading to go somewhere else


a child's eyes by damianmkv, on Flickr
 
The Nikon would have made a better over all job of the exposure I believe. BUT the files from the Oly seem to be able to take a bit more editing than the Nikon files and there is alot more detail in the highlights that can be recovered which is a nice bonus! :)

Obviously an exposure brush was used on Laura to bring her up and then another one on her face to add a bit more and a hint of yellow (+5). Then had a wander through some VSCO presets I have and went with the Kodak Gold 100-- one which gave it a bit of punchiness. Also changed the WB to cloudy.

I'm tempted to change the Oly 25 for the PL25 to see how the files compare.
 
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I'm tempted to change the Oly 25 for the PL25 to see how the files compare.
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If you can wait a little while so I can use mine a bit more we might be able to come to some agreement, or even just swapsies for a while?
 
Yeah the leaf shutters are good. Had an x20 with one and enjoyed using ocf. I can use my Nikon flash gear but not in HSS afaik so I need to rectify that issue. I enjoyed over powering the ambient with my D7k also.

Yes Ned, that would be ok with me, keep me informed and get some pics up!!!!!!

:D
 
Just bought a 75-300 so it's nice to see that it can perform in less than good light conditions, thanks
 
Thats really nice - I take it you used OCF, I did check the exif but I seem to think it only registers if the inbuilt flash is used.
 
Those are some beautiful shots Huw.

I've always liked that style of image but have never got around to getting a proper macro lens. Having a quick look at the prices they seem like good value for money too. Presumably it's a decent portrait lens as well?

It'll have to wait for a bit, I'm just about to pull the trigger on a 40-150 f/2.8......
 
I saw that 20mm 1.7 but reports mention slow to focus ? And the price for the 25 is too close to new to be attractive I think
 
Superb shots again Huw. Apart from the 60mm what lighting/accessories are you using?
 
My 20mm 1.7 is my 'go-to carry around' lens - been really pleased with the shots I've got from it and never had any problems with being slow to focus that I can recall :thumbs:
 
I think its comparative - I saw a vid on youtube comparing the AF of them both and the Oly was much quicker, but the Pany wasn't so slow - that said I wouldn't fancy combining narrow (for MFT) DoF with slow AF, so for me I'd plump for the Oly, but having the 12-40 I didn't feel the need myself.

I forget do you have the 12-40 Pro? If not then do a classic piece of "me maths" - consider not buying that lens as a £279 discount on the pro ;)
 
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