Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

ShrubMonkey said:
Ahh yes remember your an Aperture chap. The results from the Oly software are good, but as with all camera manafacturer RAW converters it's pants (Well Canon's was ok I seem to remember).

I wish I could get Capture One to work, but DxO has some nice results too
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Mate, Ive just had a good with Lightroom as Ive got it on trail as Ive been thinking of getting it as I like the Noise Reduction it does and it quite easy. Ive imported Raw into Lightroom and dont see much of a problem here.

Is it just the sharpness your having problems with?
 
Just received the Panny Leica 25mm f1.4. Hmm. I've never in my life seen so much vignetting at wide apertures - a real pain because I got this lens to shoot wide open on occasion. The vignetting almost covers the whole picture, it looks like I've under-exposed by a stop! It all but disappears at f3, where it also becomes very sharp.
 
Lindsay D said:
Just received the Panny Leica 25mm f1.4. Hmm. I've never in my life seen so much vignetting at wide apertures - a real pain because I got this lens to shoot wide open on occasion. The vignetting almost covers the whole picture, it looks like I've under-exposed by a stop! It all but disappears at f3, where it also becomes very sharp.
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Oh dear wondering any other fellow on here get this problem as this is one lens i be looking for. If it vignette that bad at 1.4 I may as well go and get the cheaper version 14mm or 20mm lens.

What software you using?
 
I can deal the vignetting in Lightroom, so I don't think it's a deal breaker. The IQ of the lens when slightly stopped down is fabulous.

Being a Panasonic lens I suspect it communicates with Panasonic bodies and the camera performs some in-camera corrections. On an OMD I guess we don't get that and have to manually correct instead.
 
Lindsay D said:
I can deal the vignetting in Lightroom, so I don't think it's a deal breaker. The IQ of the lens when slightly stopped down is fabulous.

Being a Panasonic lens I suspect it communicates with Panasonic bodies and the camera performs some in-camera corrections. On an OMD I guess we don't get that and have to manually correct instead.
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I suppose your right but me being a Aperture user and trailing Lightroom at the moment might be a problem as dont have len correction on aperture
 
Andrew it might be best to see if you can get to a camera store and try the lens out before you order it. I suppose it depends on how often you'll shoot wide open.

I was hoping for decent weather today so I could get out for an hour, but it's been dark and damp all day with worse to come tomorrow - but Sunday is looking hopeful.
 
Lindsay D said:
Andrew it might be best to see if you can get to a camera store and try the lens out before you order it. I suppose it depends on how often you'll shoot wide open.

I was hoping for decent weather today so I could get out for an hour, but it's been dark and damp all day with worse to come tomorrow - but Sunday is looking hopeful.
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Yeah I was planning to go out today taking pictures but tooo dull.

Lindsay can i ask how do you manage your files and arrange them within aperture are you able to show me a screen shot of the left hand side where all images are stored

it just that I finding it hare to get grip with as aperture a bit different. But I think the editing in lightroom pretty good
 
Lindsay D said:
Sorry Andrew, but I've never used Aperture.
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Ok but is it possible show a screen shot of your folder structure on the left hand side to give me any idea how i suppose be doing it as it so different to aperture
 
Went and picked up the Panny Leica 25mm this morning, but I am at work until 10pm, so I haven't had a chance to try it out as yet.

I was planning on shooting it wide open tomorrow night, I may have to experiment tomorrow morning and see if I get the vignetting Lindsay describes and take my trust Oly 45mm as back up. My pp skills are v limited and I may not be able to remove it.
 
rookies said:
Ok but is it possible show a screen shot of your folder structure on the left hand side to give me any idea how i suppose be doing it as it so different to aperture
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This is the import Library, where you'll see your pictures loading up as they come off the card. On the left is your file structure exactly as you see it on your computer drive. Here you can name them, assign keywords etc:

lightroomlibrarymodule.jpg


And here is the Develop module where you'll apply your processing, on the left hand side are your presets which you'll set up and save in various folders as you go along:

lightroomdevelopmodule.jpg
 
Lindsay D said:
Quick repeat attempt before I have to dash (I think these will enlarge if you click on them):
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Thanks when I rename the files and folders does it get renamed on the HD in the folder where it stored? If I move folders abouts in Lightroom does it also get moved about on the HD too this is something I would like it to do.
 
Lightroom auto-corrects all Panny/Oly lenses on u4/3rds cameras. The correction properties are held in lens and transferred to the body for inclusion in the EXIF of the image. Lightroom (or more specifically Adobe Camera Raw) apply the transforms on import.

Oly lenses/bodies don't insert CA correction, Panny bodies do. This means that:

  • P lens/P body: CA & distortion correction
  • O lens/P body: distortion correction
  • P lens/O body: distortion correction
  • O lens/O body: distortion correction

It does do SOME vignetting correction, but isn't total.

You cannot switch this off - there is no option in LR to enable/disable it but it does do it (source: Adobe Cameras Raw main developer).
 
arad85 said:
Lightroom auto-corrects all Panny/Oly lenses on u4/3rds cameras. The correction properties are held in lens and transferred to the body for inclusion in the EXIF of the image. Lightroom (or more specifically Adobe Camera Raw) apply the transforms on import.

Oly lenses/bodies don't insert CA correction, Panny bodies do. This means that:


[*]P lens/P body: CA & distortion correction
[*]O lens/P body: distortion correction
[*]P lens/O body: distortion correction
[*]O lens/O body: distortion correction


It does do SOME vignetting correction, but isn't total.

You cannot switch this off - there is no option in LR to enable/disable it but it does do it (source: Adobe Cameras Raw main developer).
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Thanks for that. I understand. It would be nice to have the same options as when you import from a DSLR. It hasn't really bothered me so far saying that.
 
Lindsay D said:
Just received the Panny Leica 25mm f1.4. Hmm. I've never in my life seen so much vignetting at wide apertures - a real pain because I got this lens to shoot wide open on occasion. The vignetting almost covers the whole picture, it looks like I've under-exposed by a stop! It all but disappears at f3, where it also becomes very sharp.
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I am surprised you have vignetting as I don't recall it with my copy. I will have to try it out and see now and report back. I did just pop outside and fire off a couple of shots that seem fine at f1.4 but the light is going here so will test tomorrow. It would be good to see an example to compare against Lindsey if you have one.
 
markhort said:
It would be nice to have the same options as when you import from a DSLR.
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The same options where? In the lens correction area or the camera calibration area?

The lens correction is part of the micro-4/3rds system spec so is correctly being applied.
 
The lens correction section at the bottom. What I mean is have the ability to turn it off.
 
markhort said:
The lens correction section at the bottom. What I mean is have the ability to turn it off.
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Why? It hides all sorts of stuff that enable Panny & Oly to design lenses that give good pictures, but may not be as perfect as they seem.
 
rookies said:
Thanks when I rename the files and folders does it get renamed on the HD in the folder where it stored? If I move folders abouts in Lightroom does it also get moved about on the HD too this is something I would like it to do.
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Yes, you can rename files in LR and it will be reflected on your HD. You can move files too, it takes you straight to your HD view and you do it there without leaving LR. It's an excellent piece of software, it does pretty much everything.
 
arad85 said:
Lightroom auto-corrects all Panny/Oly lenses on u4/3rds cameras. The correction properties are held in lens and transferred to the body for inclusion in the EXIF of the image. Lightroom (or more specifically Adobe Camera Raw) apply the transforms on import.

Oly lenses/bodies don't insert CA correction, Panny bodies do. This means that:

  • P lens/P body: CA & distortion correction
  • O lens/P body: distortion correction
  • P lens/O body: distortion correction
  • O lens/O body: distortion correction

It does do SOME vignetting correction, but isn't total.

You cannot switch this off - there is no option in LR to enable/disable it but it does do it (source: Adobe Cameras Raw main developer).
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I'm starting to wonder if that just applies to RAWs Andy? My tests were JPEG. Maybe it did some correcting, but I didn't see any improvement. But like I said manually correcting it isn't too big a deal, I've already set up a couple of presets.
 
Ajophotog said:
I am surprised you have vignetting as I don't recall it with my copy. I will have to try it out and see now and report back. I did just pop outside and fire off a couple of shots that seem fine at f1.4 but the light is going here so will test tomorrow. It would be good to see an example to compare against Lindsey if you have one.
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I've deleted the files in horror :( but if the weather holds up on Sunday I'll get out and shoot in a variety of scenes wide open and stopped down a bit, so hopefully I'll get some realistic comparisons. The vignetting is way worse than my Canon primes. But having said that it's not too difficult to correct it in Lightroom. And I must say this lens stopped down a tad is awesome. It's a street shooters wet dream! I tried it in dim rooms and the autofocus is great - much faster than my XE1 with the new 18-55 zoom.

Vignettes aside, I'm loving my OMD. I just want it to stop raining ... but then again the thing is weather sealed.
 
Lindsay D said:
I've deleted the files in horror :( but if the weather holds up on Sunday I'll get out and shoot in a variety of scenes wide open and stopped down a bit, so hopefully I'll get some realistic comparisons. The vignetting is way worse than my Canon primes. But having said that it's not too difficult to correct it in Lightroom. And I must say this lens stopped down a tad is awesome. It's a street shooters wet dream! I tried it in dim rooms and the autofocus is great - much faster than my XE1 with the new 18-55 zoom.

Vignettes aside, I'm loving my OMD. I just want it to stop raining ... but then again the thing is weather sealed.
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Get out in the rain it weather sealed take advantage of that feature :lol:

Only Joking.....

The OMD is such a lovely camera and I am trying to work out wether to stay with aperture or move to Lightroom as found it at a great price..

Have you tried any indoor low light high iso yet to see how you feel about the ISO Noise?
 
Lindsay D said:
I'm starting to wonder if that just applies to RAWs Andy? My tests were JPEG. Maybe it did some correcting, but I didn't see any improvement. But like I said manually correcting it isn't too big a deal, I've already set up a couple of presets.
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If you're importing JPEGs won't the camera already have applied the corrections before LR even gets the file?
 
Lindsay D said:
I'm starting to wonder if that just applies to RAWs Andy? My tests were JPEG. Maybe it did some correcting, but I didn't see any improvement. But like I said manually correcting it isn't too big a deal, I've already set up a couple of presets.
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JPEGs have the same processing applied in-camera. That is, there isn't an uncorrected JPEG....
 
Lindsay D said:
Oh yes, the low light capabilities of the OMD are just brilliant - very close to my Fuji X100 (I'm shooting JPEGs at the moment with noise reduction set to Low).

I think I WILL go out in the rain tomorrow :lol:
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Try shooting raw and see how you get on regarding lowlight and vignetting
 
We not had rain most of the week just dull and misty apart from yesterday which was lovely and sunny hence manage to get out. Look like it be a no no this weekend :( get a new camera and can't use it lol
 
McShug said:
I work in Eastbourne, no rain here at all all day
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It's been dreich here - dark all day with a heavy wet mist, I could hardly see the end of the road. The forecast this morning said tomorrow would be wet but Sunday would be sunny, but the prediction may well have changed since then. I'm sure I can find somewhere indoors if it comes to it.
 
rookies said:
Mate, Ive just had a good with Lightroom as Ive got it on trail as Ive been thinking of getting it as I like the Noise Reduction it does and it quite easy. Ive imported Raw into Lightroom and dont see much of a problem here.

Is it just the sharpness your having problems with?
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Yeah mainly sharpness, there has to be something going on in Lightroom, as the images look super sharp in other raw software, without applying any sharpness
 
ShrubMonkey said:
Yeah mainly sharpness, there has to be something going on in Lightroom, as the images look super sharp in other raw software, without applying any sharpness
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Hmmm I not seen a problem with what I've seen so far in Lightroom been playing with it all afternoon and funny enough I am thinking moving over to it from aperture
 
rookies said:
Hmmm I not seen a problem with what I've seen so far in Lightroom been playing with it all afternoon and funny enough I am thinking moving over to it from aperture
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I thought the same until I tried a different raw processing software
 
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