old world, teachers..

Cobra said:
It just gets worse :(


I think there was "one" in every school TBH.
"Ours" was the Geography teacher, who, as an aside, seemed to delight in inviting the "in crowd boys" to his house boat for Sunday tea. ;)
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We had a Chemistry teacher who invited his class (there were only 6 of us!) down to his house for tea one Sunday too. Entirely above board - met his family, had a great time and he was without question a bloody awesome teacher; 30+ years later, he still looms large in my memory for all the right reasons.

How teachers form bonds with their pupils in this day an age eludes me. They must be open to so many layers of scrutiny, oversight, 'how would this look" etc.
 
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Furtim said:
How teachers form bonds with their pupils in this day an age eludes me. They must be open to so many layers of scrutiny, oversight, 'how would this look" etc.
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but do they need to form bonds to do their job properly? And if they are to be believed, they are far too busy marking papers etc in their extended holidays to even consider such interaction
 
Furtim said:
How teachers form bonds with their pupils in this day an age eludes me.
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The new way seems to be, to be their friends. In some schools they even dress in hoodies like the kids.(head included) :rolleyes:

This was a letter from one school that was given to kids after their SATs exams prior to moving up to high school;


We are very proud of you as you demonstrated huge amounts of commitment and tried your very best during this tricky week.

However, we are concerned that these tests do not always assess all of what it is that make each of you special and unique. The people who create these tests and score them do not know each of you... the way your teachers do, the way I hope to, and certainly not the way your families do.

They do not know that many of you speak two languages. They do not know that you can play a musical instrument or that you can dance or paint a picture.

They do not know that your friends count on you to be there for them or that your laughter can brighten the dreariest day. They do not know that you write poetry or songs, play or participate in sports, wonder about the future, or that sometimes you take care of your little brother or sister after school.

They do not know that you have travelled to a really neat place or that you know how to tell a great story or that you really love spending time with special family members and friends.

They do not know that you can be trustworthy, kind or thoughtful, and that you try, every day, to be your very best... the scores you get will tell you something, but they will not tell you everything.

So enjoy your results and be very proud of these but remember there are many ways of being smart. :puke:
 
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They do not know that you are an annoying little sh*t who spends entire lessons on a mobile phone or disrupting other pupils


Disclaimer: I actually like* kids. But I couldn't eat a whole one.

*some. Ok, not many.
 
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We are very proud of you as you demonstrated huge amounts of commitment and tried your very best during this tricky week. We're not expecting good results because we know you well, so we're trying to let you down gently.

However, we are concerned that these tests do not always assess all of what it is that make each of you special and unique. The people who create these tests and score them do not know each of you... the way your teachers do, the way I hope to, and certainly not the way your families do. The people who set these tests don't make allowances when marking people who don't make an effort

They do not know that many of you speak two languages. They do not know that you can play a musical instrument or that you can dance or paint a picture. They think that you should make the effort to learn English and study the subjects that you've been tested on

They do not know that your friends count on you to be there for them or that your laughter can brighten the dreariest day. They do not know that you write poetry or songs, play or participate in sports, wonder about the future, or that sometimes you take care of your little brother or sister after school. They don't care that your parents can't be bothered to look after their other kids, and they don't make allowances for the fact that your'e bone idle

They do not know that you have travelled to a really neat place or that you know how to tell a great story or that you really love spending time with special family members and friends. They neither know nor care that you've got better things to do than learn

They do not know that you can be trustworthy, kind or thoughtful, and that you try, every day, to be your very best... the scores you get will tell you something, but they will not tell you everything.[?] The scores will tell you everything about your level of effort and commitment

So enjoy your results and be very proud of these but remember there are many ways of being smart If you don't work a lot harder, you'll end up like me

Can't get the strikethrough to work properly, but you get the point
 
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Garry Edwards said:
We are very proud of you as you demonstrated huge amounts of commitment and tried your very best during this tricky week. We're not expecting good results because we know you well, so we're trying to let you down gently.

However, we are concerned that these tests do not always assess all of what it is that make each of you special and unique. The people who create these tests and score them do not know each of you... the way your teachers do, the way I hope to, and certainly not the way your families do. The people who set these tests don't make allowances when marking people who don't make an effort

They do not know that many of you speak two languages. They do not know that you can play a musical instrument or that you can dance or paint a picture. They think that you should make the effort to learn English and study the subjects that you've been tested on

They do not know that your friends count on you to be there for them or that your laughter can brighten the dreariest day. They do not know that you write poetry or songs, play or participate in sports, wonder about the future, or that sometimes you take care of your little brother or sister after school. They don't care that your parents can't be bothered to look after their other kids, and they don't make allowances for the fact that your'e bone idle

They do not know that you have travelled to a really neat place or that you know how to tell a great story or that you really love spending time with special family members and friends. They neither know nor care that you've got better things to do than learn

They do not know that you can be trustworthy, kind or thoughtful, and that you try, every day, to be your very best... the scores you get will tell you something, but they will not tell you everything.[?] The scores will tell you everything about your level of effort and commitment

So enjoy your results and be very proud of these but remember there are many ways of being smart If you don't work a lot harder, you'll end up like me

Can't get the strikethrough to work properly, but you get the point
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Just for Gary (y)
 
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my schooling was during the 60's and 70's and i will tell you a story from the other side of the desk so to speak

my upbringing was shall we say complicated i was taken from my natural parents at the age of 4 by social services, introduced into a foster family around 6 months later along with 2 of my sisters ( there were 5 of us ) the other 2 sisters went of to a different foster family the next time i saw the other 2 sisters i was 11 for 1 day then nothing until my late 20's when i bumped into one of them at a friends house i instantly knew who she was she had no idea who i was but she would have been less than a year old when taken from natural parents

the foster family i was introduced into was the most sadistic people i have ever met how the hell they became foster carers i have no idea but i was no angel the reality was they had no idea how to cope with me, i think i started rebelling at around age 8 there answer was to basically beat the crap out of me but it didn't seem to make much difference to my behaviour.
by age 11 they had had enough and first port of call was boarding school then 5 months later residential care ( children's home ) where i remained until 16

from the age of 8 to 14 i was out of control and the answer during the 60's / 70's for a child with my temperament was more often than not corporal punishment of one form or another but quite honestly i had got so used to it it made not one jot of difference
by the time i had reached 14 for some reason or other i settled down i cannot tell you why maybe the interest in the opposite sex changed my behaviour i don't honestly know

so... in my colourful upbringing i have met a few teachers , house masters and carers who like to dish out punishment from the slipper to outright beatings but at the time i accepted it i always knew what they were for and like i said i was no angel
the only ones i thought went too far was the foster carers, there both dead now, i did not attend their funeral ( i didn't think dancing on their grave would have been appropriate at the time ) although the 2 sisters that were in their care did but they stayed until 16/18

corporal punishment has it's place but where it is allowed we will always see it abused be it teachers , carers or within a domestic environment but i think taking it out of schools was a mistake there are too many children growing up with no limits even i had limits despite my surroundings during my childhood, my behaviour would probably have been put down to ADHD or something along those lines nowadays and for all i know it might very well have been something to do with something like that but i just put it down to being a naughty kid
 
cosmicma said:
the foster family i was introduced into was the most sadistic people i have ever met how the hell they became foster carers i have no idea
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Perhaps they weren't vetted that much then? I remember doing some building work, for a foster couple..and couldn't believe they way that hey treated the kids, not by hitting them...,just verbally..
perhaps some foster, just for money? not for the love of the kids?...
 
cosmicma said:
.....but i think taking it out of schools was a mistake there are too many children growing up with no limits.....
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Thing is though, nowadays (putting any corporal punishment issues aside) kids don't know where they stand when there are no consequences to bad behaviour.

Phrases like; "you have emptied my resilience bucket" are being used by teachers. :puke:

Kids in class are told to say to disruptive peers; "You know I think you are wonderful but your mistaken behaviour shows me that at this moment in time it would be best for you to have some time here (another class) where these children can help you to stop making that mistake" :rolleyes:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hers-raising-voices-refuses-judge-pupils.html

http://www.theguardian.com/educatio...se-for-pupils-went-viral-falls-foul-of-ofsted


Education in some areas is seriously being neglected.

We are creating more problems for the future imo.
 
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mark richards said:
perhaps some foster, just for money? not for the love of the kids?...
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I can't say that doesn't happen & maybe more likely in the past, but believe me, fostering doesn't even meet the national minimum wage.
Also with the cuts in social spending by the Govt & local authorities, they want you to do it for next to nothing these days.
 
School, the best days of your life.

This photograph was taken the year I left (1956) and was sent to me earlier this year by the daughter of the woodwork teacher, second from right back row.


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OldCarlos said:
I can't say that doesn't happen & maybe more likely in the past, but believe me, fostering doesn't even meet the national minimum wage.
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TBH nor should it, otherwise biological mothers who choose to stay at home and raise their kids rather than "work" should be getting similar.
Whilst I applaud anyone who fosters children (anything to get them out of residential care homes is good IMO), they, like any biological parent, are choosing to raise a child, either in the long or the short term.
It should never be sufficiently paid to warrant it becoming a career choice.
 
mark richards said:
Perhaps they weren't vetted that much then? I remember doing some building work, for a foster couple..and couldn't believe they way that hey treated the kids, not by hitting them...,just verbally..
perhaps some foster, just for money? not for the love of the kids?...
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maybe your right but what i do know is the vetting process now is pretty thorough
i have 2 long term foster children ( 7 years now ) that will be with us until they are old enough to make there own way in life and one of the reasons we have them is because i know what's waiting for them if people like me and my wife don't foster
i know things have changed since my childhood but there are things about residential care such as love they will never see and it does affect your adult life
 
OldCarlos said:
Thing is though, nowadays (putting any corporal punishment issues aside) kids don't know where they stand when there are no consequences to bad behaviour.

Phrases like; "you have emptied my resilience bucket" are being used by teachers. :puke:

Kids in class are told to say to disruptive peers; "You know I think you are wonderful but your mistaken behaviour shows me that at this moment in time it would be best for you to have some time here (another class) where these children can help you to stop making that mistake" :rolleyes:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hers-raising-voices-refuses-judge-pupils.html

http://www.theguardian.com/educatio...se-for-pupils-went-viral-falls-foul-of-ofsted


Education in some areas is seriously being neglected.

We are creating more problems for the future imo.
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iv'e seen the school reports i think you have to read between the lines to get a gist of what they are really trying to say :)
 
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