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OK, well, a link brought me here; I have just bought my first ever brand new Digital SLR. But far from new to photography.... I have just been more used to stuff that uses film.

Photo-bio starts about the time of 'Punk', when I was given my first camera, a 110 instamatic for Christmas. Aparently I was very enthusiastic and pointed it at everything and anything I came accross... they never TOLD me it needed FILM!

A few years later, my Dad, who's Canadian, bought me an Olympus XA2 compact for my birthday, as I was about to become a transatlintic child, and he expected would have a lot of oportunity to take a lot of more interesting pictures.
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He was right. And that little camera has traveled moon and back mileages over 20 years almost constant service, going wherever I did.

In 1989, I entered the realms of SLR photography, when I started university, and my Dad, gave me an old Olympus OM10. I have no idea how long that camera lasted. It wasn't long! But I had a couple of reletively good lenses for it, but OM10's were cheap to replace.

When I left uni... I had notions of treating myself to a motorbike. I ended up buying a washing machine and making do, treating myself to an OM4 body. If it ent broke, dont fix it... so I spent my money on film. Well, film and batteries....

About five years later, marriage loomed. This curtailed an awful lot, and photography was something significantly quelled. I had been used to a three bedroom house, ALL to myself, and exclusive use of the bathroom. No More! The enlarger was ejected to the attic, and a large array of unspecified ointments, preparations and other assorted 'beuty' products replaced the processing chemicals!

Slowly, a tub of un-processed 35mm film canisters started accumulating in the fridge, as 'Well, we need..." [whatever] started consuming my disposeable income, and flower pots, cusions, curtain, started appearing! Curtains! WHAT was wrong with my 'Black-Out' sheeting?!?!? Which, after I moaned about preserving the latent image in reduced temperature conditions; resulted in an 'ultimatum'.. no more FILM until them is all developed! And I suppose marks the end of my 'Hay-(lide)-Days'.

I started investigating 'Digital'. Conclusion. Unless I bought a Hassablad and scan-back... for some utterly rediculouse figure, more than my mortgage.... I had the choice of still incredibly expensive early Digital SLR's, that had wonderful optics, but pretty low resolution sensors.... or moderately expensive Digital-Compacts, with incredibly poor optics... and even lower resolution sensors!

Then I was made redundant. So I bought this:-
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The idea seemed pretty sound, and 'she' sort of agreed to it. Rather than buy a pretty poor digital camera; If it ent broke dont fix it..... Olly kit was still 'good'... only problem was buying film, and processing it..... without a dark-room. SO, pull my dev-tanks back out the attic, get a slide kit from Jessops; take pics on film, process in the kitchen, then scan to the computer, and 'print'.

Conveniently, oooh.... about 1995 I had bought one of these wondeful all singing all dancing new 'Multi-Media PC's... a PENTIUM 90! with 4megs of RAM.

Err... yeah. The Jessops kit came with three rolls of film..... I could STILL be waiting for that old steam driven computer to finish scanning the last frame, fourteen years later! I suspect that it may be quite a 'good' bit of kit; only its so old, every time I try and connect it to a more modern computer it chucks out 32bit application errors at me! Connected to that P90, with 4Mb ram and 80Mb hdd ..... it was rather SLOW. And this was the 'SCSI' version! I hate to think how slow the budget 'Parallel-Port' version was!

So the experiment didn't go quite to plan, sitting up all night to scan just four frames! AND, 'notion' that it would save printing costs, was soon spoiled when I had to replace the printer... becouse budget 'refil' inks wrecked the heads! Oh... and blank CD's for the novel two-speed CD burner were, £5 a piece.... and you could JUST about get one roll of films worth of scans onto it!

So for a couple of years, ruefully the couple of years my kids were toddlers, few photo's were taken. But by late 2002, technology was pushing ahead, and costs crashing. MegaPixel compacts were starting to fall under the £100 threshold, and ASDA had this "on offer"; I think £70.
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Miraculousely, she allowed me to buy it, becouse it was 'such' a bargain.... and she'd be able to see my photo's STRAIT AWAY! curtecy of the postage stamp size screen on the back!
1.3MPix... it was.... it was... my entry into digital. sort of. It was frankly... rather more than mediocre.... but it was convenient. And SOME photo, was better than NO photo! And it did sort of get me taking pictures again.

Pictures of what, though? I did snap a few shots of my kids... but? Well, getting out and about and taking pictures? I had rather limited oportunity.... if I wasn't at work.... I was supposed to give HER a 'day off' and mind the babies.

Enter 'Free-Serve'. The milenium marked the point at which we were all encouraged to get with the wired world and go on line. I had been there a while. Remember that Multi-Media Pentium computer? Well I had bought it to do a course in IT. And working in an electronics factory, I was connected to the 'web' via a portal I found lurking in the mainframe that was supposed to give me access to the MOD defense standards data-base! I had discovered 'Bulatin Boards', and been chatting away about BIKES for a few years with... mostly americans. Bulatin boards were, at that point, by and large text only, but with drive for people to become 'Milenium Complient' they were upgrading thier software, and the modern 'Interest Forum' cwas evolving. I had also joned a Land-Rover forum; as I had bought an old delapidated Series III with the idea of renovating it.

Now, back in 1995... I had had access to an early scanner.... this had encouraged my later film scanner, but picture the scene; On my IT course I had had to attend a weeks residential school. I had taken my cameras, and had taken plenty of pictures. I then spent a DAY scanning them on this novel device, and saving each one to 1.44 floppy! Seriousely, one disc, one pic. CD burners were still in the future! Worse, turning a scan through 90 degrees on a 486 with 2meg of ram.... well? That was the limit of post-processing! Just re-orientating a pic took a bludy hour! BUT... I took them all home, and one by one loaded them to the OU bulatin board, for other students to have a laugh at... though most moaned about how long they had to be 'on' their dial up conection to down-load them!

That I guess was the start of 'web-publishing'; and from the bike-board, had discovered I was being asked more and more often for technical detail on my aged Montesa trials bike, and e-mailing scans of the rare owners manual . So, at some point, around 1998, utilising a 'bit' of web-space that came free with my dial up account, I had started a 'web-site'... in as much as there was a page, and linked off it, GIFs of black and white scans of the manual... maybe a couple of scans of old prints of the bike itself.

Anyway; that little Jenopik 'cheapie', really did expand my photo-taking; AND the net gave a purpose and an audience to them.

Before; I took photo's. I got the films processed, or printed the B&W at home. If I'd taken pics of a works outing or a family 'do'... they got looked at.... briefly, usually in the packets, by people that had been there.. then were forgotten about. Holiday snaps? Well, my mum may be mildly interested. Arty pics? Gained mild interests, if they were looked at.

But all of a sudden, I found I was taking pictures I would never have even thought of taking with my Halide cameras. Renovating this Land-Rover, people were discussing thier own 'projects' and I'd pop out and take a snap to illustrate something....... well, it was 'instant', and cost nothing!

Well, almost.... Them AAA Duracells for this DigiCam, didn't come cheap! And I discovered a 'flaw' in the design... it would not take 1.2v rechargeables! Pics were not amazing resolution, and I struggled to get good clear close ups, or nadgery lighting, say under a car, but I was taking pictures. LOTS of pictures... and more... people WANTED to see them!

Around 2006, I was in the middle of a divorse. Phew. Relived, but broke like I had never been broke before! And attempting to patch up an old range-rover, and discussing drop-arm ball-joints with a fellow on the Land-Rover Forum, I needed to take a picture..... but.... I had run out of AAA batteries.

And I had one of those 'ideas'. A BAD one as it turned out. Good in picnciple, but.... it went like this. 4x1.5v=6v what the camera wants. 4x1.2 = 4.8v... what four rechargeable ni-cads provide. BUT... 5x1.2v=6v.... all I needed to be able to do was cram ONE extra ni-cad in the camera... and it ought to be 'happy'..... an experiment with some bell-wire and some insulation tape, proved the theory correct... so I drilled a hole through the battery compartment and put two bits of bell-wire on the battery terminals, and threaded them outside the camera, to where I could tape five ni-cads.... then I got carried away... pilaging a battery tray for AA batteries from a broken kids toy.... I thought AAA's good.... AA's better! And they were.... UNTIL I managed to connect the batteries the wrong way round! One fried digital!

However, I came accross a cheap copy of a Vivitar 5MPix thingie that took two AA's and I was assured would run on rechargeables, and THAT wee beastie has served me until this Christmas!
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It was still less than wonderful, but, its amazing how much you CAN do with such rudimentary equipment.... and a LOT of post-processing! Though it was rather embarassing, that my kids, aged 8 & 9 had 'better' cameras than I did! (They had a pair of Kodak 12MPix zoom compacts!)

ANYWAY, bringing us right up to date; we went on a Day-Trip to Bosworth Battle-Feild re-enactment this summer.... remarkeably it was one of the few sunny days we had... and using that little camera I couldn't see a darn THING! Seriousely the screen is actually SMALLER than the exposed area of a 35mm negative!

It was, a last straw. Strong sun on the postage stamp, meant I had little idea what I was pointing the thing at, and I was getting increasingly frustrated by 'shutter-lag' trying to predict when 'knights' jousting were about to strike, to get the critical moment! I actually moarned that poor old Jenopik, becouse at least that had had an optical view-finder!

Still impoverished and dissabled, cost of a digital SLR still baulked, regardless of the prices dropping and technology improving; BUT conveniently selling an old motor-bike I renovated, provided some readies, and I decided to bite the bullet, and in the January Sales, bought this in Curys.

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Which in some ways, fills me with enthusiasm; but in others frustration.... like looking back at old Halide pictures, wishing I had not used such cheap film, looking back on fourteen years snaps of my kids growing up, thinking, "If only....... I could have had SO much better pics!" Well, at least I have SOME pics!

Actually rather more than 'some'. Working my way through a rather large folder of photo's recovered from a corrupt hard drive; trying to identify whats what and put it in some kind of order, whilst at the same time, scan my old archive of halide pics into the 'puter..... a task I set for myself about four years ago, when I invested £50 in a new film scanner....
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Probably not as good as the old one... but it was cheap, it takes less than a day to get a picture from it, and it sort of does the job! Still taking a while though! Been at it three years, and, I'm probably only about half way through getting them all in the 'puter, and barely scratched the surface of making them presentable to upload to face-book or anywhere! And now trying to fathom the intricasies of DSLR!

So that's about it, really; a life-time of photo-taking....

Now.... to find out how to get these ruddy Raw images out of the chuffing camera and into Photo-Shop!
 
A fantastic introduction Mike.

Welcome to TP :wave:
 
Welcome. Quite an introduction.

So what model is the new camera? I can't work it out from the picture.


Steve.
 
Welcome. Quite an introduction.
So what model is the new camera? I can't work it out from the picture.
Steve.
Lol.. one that takes better pics than camera that took picture of the camera in the pic.... hang on.... which one are we talking about again?!?!?!?

DSLR... I plumped for the D3200.
 
DSLR... I plumped for the D3200.

I got one of those on Friday. I sold five things which were just sitting on a shelf on ebay so effectively got it free!

I an 99% a film photographer with sixty film cameras and two digital. When my old D100 died I decided to replace it.

I am quite impressed with the D3200 - but it's not going to replace black and white film and optical printing for me.


Steve.
 
Welcome, Hope you've got deep pockets :lol: I started with a £1 camera in 1958.
 
A great story, some of the early computer stories paralleled my experiences. I had a scanner, 16mb of ram and a 2x cd burner that always under buffered. The computer cost £1890 (paid for with redundancy money).

I got a d3200 and I'm well chuffed with it , a worthy successor to the d40 which was my first DSLR.

I'm now starting to use film again!
 
Welcome, Hope you've got deep pockets :lol: I started with a £1 camera in 1958.
I dont... in fact touched on the topic on another thread, in which, critiquing some of my own pictures of my kids growing up, 'photo-head' was grumbling that so many were so poor and could have ben SO much better if I had merely fessed up a fiver for some film to use one of my SLR's.... same time, 'accountant head' was offering counter-point... that if I had fessed up a fiver for film, I wouldn't have any pictures at all, as I wouldn't have had the petrol in the car to get where the pics were took! 'DAD-HEAD' merely said shut up! Wasn't they KewT when they were babies!"

I think I have scotsmans syndrome.... deep pockets but short arms! & stealing a line from 'I know where I'm going'.... "Och, they're not poor.... they just dont have very much money!"

And, again thought provoked by another thread; actually... I have never spent all that much money on my photography.... certainly not on cameras, that's for sure! Spent an awful lot on FILM.... but even then, I bought a bulk loader, shot slide & home processed a lot.

A great story, some of the early computer stories paralleled my experiences. I had a scanner, 16mb of ram and a 2x cd burner that always under buffered. The computer cost £1890 (paid for with redundancy money).

lol... Kodak 'Gold' writable CD's sold individually in PC world or packs of five!... DREADING the "Buffer Under Run Error" and the banding to denote another wasted disc!.... and the paranoia watching the LED's flash... for twenty minutes per burn to find out!

I'm now starting to use film again!
Yes...... strange how that happens!

A weeks developments!

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I dug out my 'old' SLR's.. you know.... see if there was anything 'useful' for the new camera.... they were in a sorry state, and the batteries were dead. Found some LR44's in ASDA for £2... 'just' to test them out like...... So had to give them a clean, then of course check the calibration against the Nikon, and... as you DO.... fire the shutter at every speed... make sure it's still working... and... ooooooooh! That feels GooooooooooD! Something rather 'meaty' about the ker-chunk of the release of an old film camera... feather weight flick of a Digi is rather limp in comparison!

I wonder whether I ought to put a roll of film through it... 'for old times sake'.....

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- What's that Dad? (says daughter)
+ That's an old Russian Zenith EM... clockwork Camera....
- Cool! Can I try it? I've chosen Photography for GCSE.... but they dont let us use REAL cameras! ..... YOU could teach me!

Hmm... it has no meter, why I never used it.... OK.. I'll see if I can find a cheap Selenium meter on e-bay and some cheap film....

Oh-Dear.... OH-VERY-VERY-DEAR!

I turned up some old meters; rather nasty 80's plastic Jessops ones were fetching a fiver; broken, damaged Westons, £15-20.... so was rather chuffed on Tuesday to 'win' a Leningrad 4 for £2.80 plus postage.... it arrived yesterday... I bin playin!

Very impressed that a bit of 1976 cold war technology, probably made in a Goolag, gave nie on identical exposure values as my new Nikon!

But, egged on my my success... more e-bay-madness has ensued!

I had dug out the old Sigma M42 'kit'.....
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Put together from old loft-finds and second hand bargains, with all-prime lenses, as a bit of 'fun' and a work for it counter-point to the fast-photo olly's twenty years ago!

It was in slightly better state than the Olly's and has TTL metering.... left switched on... where do I get a mushroom battery from!

Classic camera shop wanted STUPID money for one.... so back to the bay.. two ordered for £1.60, 'post free'.. strange that, classic camera place wanted £1.99 JUST for P&P!

Still need film. HOW MUCH! No such thing as 'cheap' film, it seems these days. Especially if you type 'Cheap 35mm film' into e-bay search bar!

Was pondering, for the 'full' photo-education for daughter, some B&W, we could home process, maybe some slide..... Oh vey! bludger all in it in price... AND actually dev-kit to process it.... there's NO SAVINGS! ASDA does a 36 exp print film for a fiver! £46 for a twelve roll chemistry set? Whats the point!.... apart from the shear MAGIC of seeing fresh, never seen before wet trannies revealed on the drying pegs! You just cant put a price on that! Well, you can.... and needing a new changing bag and concertina bottles... I CANT AFFORD IT!

No! NO! Get the Behind me Satan..... and give me back my wallet!

Whats this? 20 rolld of Kodak 36exp 100ASA colour print... from Greece... £20?

What devilry is this you tempt me with now, Lucifer!

There HAS to be a catch! Checked feed-back and reviews, and nope,plenty of happy customers... could all be fake of course... but for the price of a 2+1 pack of out of date 24's? GOT to be worth the chance..... hasn't it?!

I shall let you know! - perhaps! If it ever turns up AND if it makes any pictures!

Back to the camera clean and audit.... Oh! look my 12mm Fish-eye.... shame that's OM mount, only 'prime' in the pack... Always wanted to see if I could get that re-mounted for the Sigma..... only no-one knew anything about them.... but that was before the miricle of 'The Net'.... I wonder!

So, this week, after a little research, finding out my Sigma SLR is not the only one known to man, I discovered that the 'Panomar' 12mm fish-eye was actually made by Sigma, AND that in fact it used a standard T-Mount and could easily be remounted with an M44 T-Adaptor.... £10 on e-bay later, about what I paid for the thing fifteen years or more ago..... My 12mm Fish is now M42 mount.... and worth probably three times what it was! Bonus!

Oh look..... I can get an M42-Nikon mount.... use the Primes on the Digi! Another tenner spent!

WELL! Thats the 'Cash-Back' voucher from the Nikon 'gone' then! Oh yeah.. that arrived on Monday, hence the sense of being 'flush'... momenterily!

Realisation has set in... and that 'notion' to run a film through the Ollys has been tempered. Having the Sigma prime kit, and the Zenit to muck about with with my daughter... AND a Kodak Retinette I was bequeathed by my Grandad I have never got round to running a film through.....
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I have concluded NOT to bother messing with the OM's. I have more than enough to keep me occupied and amused, and IF I did mess with them, I rather fear that I would either waste an awful lot more money I cant afford on film, and or get all annoyed I cant get the same results with the Nikon, and HAVE to buy that 55-300 lens for it....

So am pondering the merit, rather than putting it all back on the shelf to gather more dust for another ten years, having seen interest for the breed on here, the prices OM4's and Series 1 Vivitars fetch on e-bay... and Satan's little helper's comment here...
I got one of those on Friday. I sold five things which were just sitting on a shelf on ebay so effectively got it free.
I'm toying with the notion of selling it all on to some-one who might appreciate it / use it more than I have for a decade... with the vein idea that the entire OM kit, together MIGHT buy me that Nikon 55-300....
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We shall see.....
 
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Look forward to seeing some of your work :thumbs:
Err... OK....
My Face-Book
The Family Album.... slowly migrating my pics out of the bowels of the computer, or the dusty crevices of the book-shelf to where they might be seen. Got about 4K images up so far, though most I have to say are restricted to family access.
My Hobby Webby
with all the Motorbike & Land-Rover stuff I've done. Workshop bit probably contains most pics I have ever taken, to be honest. Lots of Photo-How-2 excersises in mechanics.
 
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Few highlights for you, though:-
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Heartshill Basin; January 2013. Went out photo-hunting with the kids to try out the new Nikon.
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Testing the contrast range with the sky above, and shaddow below.
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Depth shot.

Week or so later, in the snow.
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Worked in PP - high saturation shot of the kids playground.
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Kids Tobogganing
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Another saturation of the playground.
 
Then & Now

Few Rock shots from 20 years ago
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And a couple from a few weeks ago....

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Few examples of the photo-how-2 pics:

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Taken with the old digi-compact, and of little interest unless you want to know how to swap the clutch on a small honda motorbike!

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Or adjust its tappets!

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Or, taken with the Nikon... balence the carburettors!

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