OFT Report on Petrol/Diesel Prices

PPalmer said:
I'm also wondering if there will be any comment in this report regarding that fact that the price difference between petrol and diesel seems to be growing. I remember when petrol was about 80p diesel was about 2p more. Why now does it vary between 6-9p?
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Simples - increased demand.

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Someone else mentioned that....!
 
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Garry Edwards said:
I think that this sums up the problems that successive governments ignore...

For many people, public transport isn't an option and a car isn't an unnecessary luxury. And yet people are very heavily taxed on their need to get to work.

In rural areas, it can be even worse, with 4WD vehicles, and horrifically expensive road fund licence + heavy fuel costs can be essential, just so that people like farmworkers can get to out of the way workplaces where they often get minimum pay...
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I thought all farmers ran on red?!

The 'Ministry' were dipping tanks of vehicles leaving the car parks at the Royal Welsh show a few years ago, there were quite a few land rovers parked up for the night!
 
My first car, I could fill to the brim for 12 quid. Those were the days :dummy:
 
If your username gives away the year of your birth, then it's the same as mine. My first car (a Morris Marina 1.8 deluxe no less, when I was 18) had a 12 gallon tank so cost me nearly 20 quid to fill up. £1.60/gallon. Those were the days.
 
Russ77 said:
Wasn't it just a case of giving the horse some nosebag before you started your journey :nuts:
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No I always gave it her when she got in the car.:lol:
 
Rapscallion said:
I thought all farmers ran on red?!

The 'Ministry' were dipping tanks of vehicles leaving the car parks at the Royal Welsh show a few years ago, there were quite a few land rovers parked up for the night!
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Well, some farmers will push their luck, but the rules for running on red are very restrictive and leave the farmer with no defence if they use it outside of those rules, so red can't really be used legally.

Mind you, as long as they stay away from agricultural shows and agricultural auctions, I suppose some of them will feel that it's safe.

Reminds me though of a time when we ran out of our bulk storage of red and I had to end up going to a filling station, where I bought red retail and put it into a few containers, for our generator. The guy who took the money said "Why don't you just put it straight into the tank? We don't care"
 
onomatopoeia said:
If your username gives away the year of your birth, then it's the same as mine. My first car (a Morris Marina 1.8 deluxe no less, when I was 18) had a 12 gallon tank so cost me nearly 20 quid to fill up. £1.60/gallon. Those were the days.
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I had an Austin Maestro. I loved that car.
 
Interesting Ted talk about possible future batteries. ... pretty wow stuff.
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Depending on which patents get brought up, used or hidden, by whoever has the biggest reason that is.... :suspect:

PS. I say, fuel price wise, sack the stockmarket traders for buggering up all prices of everything..again ... its time to stop messing about with the world and move on to more rewarding stuff.
 
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pepi1967 said:
No I always gave it her when she got in the car.:lol:
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yes we've heard quite enough about what you used to give her in that car - although we are still awaiting the photos :lol:
 
you don't know me very well , do you :lol:
 
srichards said:
Non contact embedded street parking charging points. Lamppost chargers. Dedicated bollards. At work. That's 4 places :)

Or get a hybrid which doesn't need charging often and is far more practical for more varied mileage anyway. I think hybrids are generally more sensible.
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Presumably the costs involved with setting up this infrastructure will be dumped on the motorist at large rather than the few who adopt the technology? Not everyone can park directly outside their workplace and those that do may not be able to plug in there - I'm sure H&S would have a field day with extension cables draped across pavements (or lying on them).
 
swappable batteries is the answer - just pull into a garage , swap your dead battery for a live one , pay and off you go - it also keeps the petrol station infrastructure staff etc employed as petrol gets more expensive and thus less used

however for that to happen electric car manufactuers would have to standadise on sort/shape/size of battery and i can't see that happening without legislation
 
Rapscallion said:
I thought all farmers ran on red?!

The 'Ministry' were dipping tanks of vehicles leaving the car parks at the Royal Welsh show a few years ago, there were quite a few land rovers parked up for the night!
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There was a case down here a few years ago where a farmer was dipped and found to be running red in his LandRover. Investigations (looking at the V5) showed that he was the only owner so the Revenue calculated the amount of fuel he had used over the lifetime of the vehicle and he got charged the tax owing on every litre he had used.
Dad used to have a Diesel engine in his boat and at that time they could be run on red. He was always very careful not to use his emergency car Jerry can for red just in case.
 
I heard an interesting rumour that if you used biodiesel mixed with red you couldn't tell it was red as it somehow stopped the red marker from working. I'd be surprised though as I thought the marker checkers were so sensitive that if you had ever used red in the same tank it knew.
 
AFAIK, red stains all parts of the fuel system from filler neck to injectors. Might be detectable in exhaust deposits too.
 
Nod said:
AFAIK, red stains all parts of the fuel system from filler neck to injectors. Might be detectable in exhaust deposits too.
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I suspected the rumour was probably total rubbish. I've heard it quite a few times though.
 
Can safely tell you that none of our boats had red internals, tanks or anything but they were running central heating oil, which may not be the exact same red dye.
 
Hydrogen / Nuclear...just needs to be pinned down...Made small and safe. :D
 
the only sensible way is electrolysis of water (which also create pure oxygen which is saleable) but that requires power so we are back to nuke plants etc to generate it originally.
 
big soft moose said:
the only sensible way is electrolysis of water (which also create pure oxygen which is saleable) but that requires power so we are back to nuke plants etc to generate it originally.
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Yep, hydrogen needs to be seen as a type of 'battery' rather than as a fuel source.
 
Wash your mouth out!
Oh, a flux capacitor.....sorry, as you were.
 
yeah deloreans, porsches, she isnt that fussy :lol:
 
I guess it'll have to be the rag top landrover instead then :naughty:
 
big soft moose said:
I guess it'll have to be the rag top landrover instead then :naughty:
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Oh Peter, so much of your life is spent in fantasy it's a wonder you get anything done at all ;) :p
 
viv1969 said:
Oh but you're so wrong Pete....Which is why a Ford just won't do it :D
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Oi! It's because of people like you making comments like that, I could be redundant in July.:p
What's wrong with a nice Ford GT?:shrug:
 
she's in denial anyway - we all know she secretly wants to go for a 'ride' in the moose mobile :lol:
 
nilagin said:
Oi! It's because of people like you making comments like that, I could be redundant in July.:p
What's wrong with a nice Ford GT?:shrug:
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Oh now the Ford GT is a different monkey altogether :D

big soft moose said:
she's in denial anyway - we all know she secretly wants to go for a 'ride' in the moose mobile :lol:
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Sadly, Moose you are the SAME monkey :)
 
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