OFFICIAL I HAVE A NEW (FILM RELATED) TOY THREAD!!

Bought a Bronica ETRS body off of ebay today. Listed at £35 & I couldn't resist as have fancied giving one a try for a while now. Need to get lots of bits before I can use it. Will try & get them over the winter so it is ready to go for spring. Should be fun.
 
AshleyC said:
no idea why i bought this, i dont really shoot 35mm anymore and its broken with the aperture not working but apparently an easy DIY fix. I just saw it in the junk box in the shop and took pity. So for a couple of quid i took it home

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Once they were two a penny - a schoolkid's snap camera - and these days you might think that they're a cult object. I think that this is down to the styling (which is excellent!). But despite the claims of fantasists, the lenses aren't that sharp ...

I'd toss it in the bin, and get on with life. Unless I was David Bailey and getting paid to advertise it. But those days have gone.
 
Well it took 20 mins to fix it so no big deal. Just working through a roll in it now so will see what comes out.
 
It's dusty.
I'll clean it for you.
 
Just scanning my test film - looking good :)
 
Niiiice! I have both - but my F100 is gripped and my F5 does everything apart from fire the shutter :thinking:
 
h'mm that's a big camera (F5) for a small neg......out of interest why would you need the F5 when you have the F100?
 
Doesn't the thread title explain? This thread is about toys, not tools. :D
 
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excalibur2 said:
h'mm that's a big camera (F5) for a small neg......out of interest why would you need the F5 when you have the F100?
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F5 has better metering matrix :)
Mostly for that :)
AF is better - I think .
Will be used at weddings :)
 
Strappy said:
Dear God, Brian, don't start asking about "need" in here, we'll all be in trouble if we starting thinking about what we really need!
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Well Dean too true and I plead guilty but just curious in that the F100 is supposed to be an excellent camera and I assume the F5 can do something of value that the F100 can't do.
 
Following link goes into the differences between an F5 & an F100.

http://www.bythom.com/F100.htm

Only bug bear that I find with the F5 is its weight. Too heavy for me to put round my neck so it goes over my shoulder. Otherwise find it a joy to shoot with. The metering has never failed me.
 
excalibur2 said:
h'mm that's a big camera (F5) for a small neg......out of interest why would you need the F5 when you have the F100?
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Because it looks like a camera, a serious camera.
It makes for a good offensive weapon too.
 
I'm not too fussed about owning either tbh but going on specs etc in the link from DNH, i'd put money into an F5 well before an F100....however as always, each to his /her own!
 
Is it not that the F5 is the greatest SLR ever made ever in the history of anything, and thus by default anyone not wanting one must be either nutz or got their head in a commode....or their arse in a Shackelton hi-seat..

its lovely

either way, its not normal to not want one

s'what I thought anyway


:D
 
'their arse in a Shackleton high seat'
Never heard of that one, brilliant but obscure. Explain please.
 
bastic said:
F5 has better metering matrix :)
Mostly for that :)
AF is better - I think .
Will be used at weddings :)
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....and for all that extra money I would assume the F5 had top quality components compared to the F100 for the paupers who could only dream ;)....interesting that Nikon never bother to bring out a F110 with the F5's matrix system, maybe because sales of SLR's were declining.
 
excalibur2 said:
....and for all that extra money I would assume the F5 had top quality components compared to the F100 for the paupers who could only dream ;)....interesting that Nikon never bother to bring out a F110 with the F5's matrix system, maybe because sales of SLR's were declining.
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Brian,You can buy the F5 at lower prices than the F100,if you wait and see.:)
 
medwaygreen said:
Brian,You can buy the F5 at lower prices than the F100,if you wait and see.:)
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Well Richard I'm probably out of my depth talking about Nikon :eek:, but was assuming in the past that the F100 was out with the F5 and you had a choice which one to buy.
 
The F5's appeal is, to me, the same as wanting a Canon EOS-1V - it's the last in the line of "professional" build and handling film bodies, built to stand the rigours of professional use - it's basically got everything in it that Nikon knew about building a 35mm camera for that market. Simply, it's the best they knew how to make, and, like the EOS-1v, handling and performance wise, it still stacked up alongside the Professional Digital bodies with regards to metering and AF performance a decade later. Simply put, it's the marker at the end of an era, and it's quite a way to finish the show.

The subsequent F6 was launched after Digital had already pretty much taken over in pro circles, and as such was built for the wealthy hobbyist who wanted all the smarts of the F5, but without the size and heft.
 
Have to agree with you Mark. ^^^^^^^^^ and I think that when people work out what you have said the F5 will increase and the F6 will decline.

I let Asha use my F5 when he came over,I think the first time,may have been the second or even the third.:)

Any way he like the feel and I think I have some shots from the visit,if not Asha has the library and I think he would contribute.

PS.

Just had to add that the F5 was before the entry into Digital and the F6 was after and based on the D100/200 body
 
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excalibur2 said:
Well Richard I'm probably out of my depth talking about Nikon :eek:, but was assuming in the past that the F100 was out with the F5 and you had a choice which one to buy.
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You,Brian,are never out of your depth.:banana:
 
Andysnap said:
'their arse in a Shackleton high seat'
Never heard of that one, brilliant but obscure. Explain please.
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Is this a ruse to suggest you aren't old enough to remember...lol..gonna gloss over that with 2 coats.
Check out YouTube for the Shackleton high seat chair....its lovely, so lovely I can't get out of it and thus don't need an F5..:)
 
joxby said:
either way, its not normal to not want one
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My name is Dean and I'm not normal because I don't want an F5. There, I said it.

I appreciate it for what it is but if I want or need a camera with lightning-fast AF, sophisticated matrix metering and all the customisability offered by the F5, I'd also want to be able to take more than 36 photos before stopping.
 
Strappy said:
My name is Dean and I'm not normal because I don't want an F5. There, I said it.

I appreciate it for what it is but if I want or need a camera with lightning-fast AF, sophisticated matrix metering and all the customisability offered by the F5, I'd also want to be able to take more than 36 photos before stopping.
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Carry three F5's around and have 108 shots :D but for a cheap Nikon combo that's versatile (and believe in carrying a backup camera) then the F90x plus FM is hard to beat.......as for sophisticated matrix metering? Ok for point and shoot but we are all above that and can judge the exposure for difficult situations plus you can always add a stop extra (for neg film) just in case of any doubts.
 
excalibur2 said:
... for a cheap Nikon combo that's versatile (and believe in carrying a backup camera) then the F90x plus FM is hard to beat ...
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I have an F100 and an FE2, neither of which set my pants on fire. I think I've used the F100 once since buying it and having to leave the winder out on the FE is annoying because it always pokes me in the forehead when I try to shoot portrait. I really need to start listing things for sale.

excalibur2 said:
... we are all above that and can judge the exposure for difficult situations plus you can always add a stop extra (for neg film) just in case of any doubts.
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Wait, so good at judging exposure that you add a stop for safety? ;)

I'm not claiming to be anywhere near as good as matrix systems at judging exposure, I just prefer to take more time when I'm using film.
 
****I'm not claiming to be anywhere near as good as matrix systems at judging exposure.***

cos you are, but maybe not if taking a shot n a hurry, but what did photographers do before computerized cameras..... it's all based on Kodak grey card (or near that standard) alias incident light readings alias roughly sunny sixteen
 
Strappy said:
My name is Dean and I'm not normal because I don't want an F5. There, I said it.

I appreciate it for what it is but if I want or need a camera with lightning-fast AF, sophisticated matrix metering and all the customisability offered by the F5, I'd also want to be able to take more than 36 photos before stopping.
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I did a stint working on cruise liners... 1800 people in 2 sittings for dinner. Every night, brief was to get a picture of EVERYONE at their table. 2 man team, one shooting, one running back and forwards between the Photo Cabin and the dining rooms - back and forwards with around 50 rolls of film a night, frantically feeding the minilab, and dealing with the pictures printed - all of which had to be on display on the easels for 6:30am the following morning, so the holidaymakers could select their photo's and charge them to their rooms account. On average, I think we sold around 1 in 3 pictures. 2xEOS1's running 25 rolls a night each, 3 nights a week (3 nights shooting, 3 nights on the lab, and one night at the end of the cruise where no shooting happened) - I was grateful for the best camera I could get, and the most solid / reliable. Would have KILLED for digital, all on one or two cards, display the pictures on a couple of touch screens the following day, press a "buy" button and print on demand. BUT, at the time we used the best that was available.

(And co-incidentally - doing that for a short contract pretty much resulted in my on-going HATRED of actually pointing a camera at anything with a face (other than something like a town hall clock))

Thing is the F5 was a fantastic TOOL to do a JOB. Much as my digital kit (and my EOS-3 film camera) is. These days I don't shoot much paid work on film - but when I do, it's nice to have the appropriate tool for the job. And that's why, if I was bought into Nikon rather than Canon glass, the F5 would be pretty much at the top of my shopping list.
 
TheBigYin said:
I did a stint working on cruise liners... 1800 people in 2 sittings for dinner. Every night, brief was to get a picture of EVERYONE at their table. 2 man team, one shooting, one running back and forwards between the Photo Cabin and the dining rooms - back and forwards with around 50 rolls of film a night, frantically feeding the minilab, and dealing with the pictures printed - all of which had to be on display on the easels for 6:30am the following morning, so the holidaymakers could select their photo's and charge them to their rooms account. On average, I think we sold around 1 in 3 pictures. 2xEOS1's running 25 rolls a night each, 3 nights a week (3 nights shooting, 3 nights on the lab, and one night at the end of the cruise where no shooting happened) - I was grateful for the best camera I could get, and the most solid / reliable. Would have KILLED for digital, all on one or two cards, display the pictures on a couple of touch screens the following day, press a "buy" button and print on demand. BUT, at the time we used the best that was available.

(And co-incidentally - doing that for a short contract pretty much resulted in my on-going HATRED of actually pointing a camera at anything with a face (other than something like a town hall clock))

Thing is the F5 was a fantastic TOOL to do a JOB. Much as my digital kit (and my EOS-3 film camera) is. These days I don't shoot much paid work on film - but when I do, it's nice to have the appropriate tool for the job. And that's why, if I was bought into Nikon rather than Canon glass, the F5 would be pretty much at the top of my shopping list.
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Ok, thanks for that. When I go back in time and get a similar job, I'll be sure to review my position on the F5. :thinking:
 
ROFL...:D

yooz guyz




I can only make sense of the hi-tech film camera v digital thing if I decide the kit/shooting experience is more important than the medium......which is a concept completely alien to me but it takes all sorts to make a World...:)


oh, I forgot about the "want" factor, "want" does not need to be validated by sense or reasoning and over rides everything anybody ever said about anything ever.
 
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joxby said:
I can only make sense of the hi-tech film camera v digital thing if I decide the kit/shooting experience is more important than the medium ...
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To me the shooting experience is an important part of the process because if I'm not engaged with the kit, I'm distracted from the results.The medium is obviously a consideration but that would depend more on what result I was looking for that what equipment I'm using for it.
 
So you're out walkabout in.....Brighton

T70 or D70 ?

nope.....that's your choice, can't be neither...lol

I WILL be taking the hideous T70, no matter what......I may jump off the cliffs with it, but that's another issue...lol
 
joxby said:
So you're out walkabout in.....Brighton

T70 or D70 ?

nope.....that's your choice, can't be neither...lol
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What's my subject? If it's something like the speed trials and I want action shots, I'll take digital. If it's people watching or general street, I'll take film. Appropriate tool for the job and all that. :)
 
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