OFFICIAL I HAVE A NEW (FILM RELATED) TOY THREAD!!

norters said:
I can't wait for it to arrive. It should compliment my x300 quite well :) I could get an m42 adaptor as I do have a couple of the lenses. Apparently one of them is supposed to be a decent one too! A 135mm Carl Zeiss. It came with a cheap Practika from the local junk shop!
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CZJ or Pentacon 135mm can give some very good results..I have the CZJ 135mm Sonnar and it's a cracker optically, but many (or quite a few) are let down by the mechanical side with sticking blades...mine included (if I leave it stored wide open it wont close).
 
norters said:
A 135mm Carl Zeiss. It came with a cheap Practika from the local junk shop!
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I have one of those in M42 mount. I paid £10 for a suitcase with about ten lenses and three camera bodies just to get this lens.


Steve.
 
Couldn't resist this, I have fancied a cheap go at medium format for ages and this was only 27 quid delivered. The thing has very funky flaps that fold in to give a 6x6 frame or fold back to give a 6x9 frame which is quite exciting ( please excuse the iphone photo)

Ensign Ranger Special.


Ranger special by Tequila-Mockingbird, on Flickr
 
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Those ensigns are class, I had the 12-20 and the 16-20 and they were both brilliant. Cracking sharp lenses.
 
Today was a surprisingly bonus day! Instead of going to Mr Cad and spending money on cameras, I got two for free! My dad bought this OM-10 a few years ago, but due to failing sight he can no longer use it. It's got a chunky 28mm wide angle lens on it, the whole outfit looks almost mint!


Olympus OM-10 by bombs and monitors, on Flickr

This was my lucky find though - I knew my parents used to have an Olympus XA, I remember it from my childhood. What I didn't know was that it was the XA4, the rare wide angle version! It needs a clean, but after sticking some batteries in it, it works perfectly!


Olympus XA4 by bombs and monitors, on Flickr
 
Lots of fun Olympus stuff there, and all free! Good haul.

The OM10s have their problems, so I'd check for them before putting in a roll (I've never handled one but crumbling seals, like many old cameras, and I know there is often shutter problems due to the electromagnets).
 
On the plus side the seals are cheap and the sticky electromagnet can be cleaned with some meths. Failing that a replacement can be had for virtually free.
 
freecom2 said:
Lots of fun Olympus stuff there, and all free! Good haul.

The OM10s have their problems, so I'd check for them before putting in a roll (I've never handled one but crumbling seals, like many old cameras, and I know there is often shutter problems due to the electromagnets).
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It was bought from a second-hand camera shop, and still has a film in, so i'll finish that off then check the seals. I would imagine they are ok, it was the (now closed) shop by Morden station, which I heard good things about. The shutter seems to work at least. Cheers for the tip though :)

Also, what would people recommend for cleaning the outside of the XA4?
 
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treeman said:
Its Here!!!!

First school boy error, forgot to order any film, Doh!

Off to Mr Cads tomorrow, see if I can get a polaroid back too.

Happy days :)

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Is it my imagination, or has there been an influx of Hassy owners recently?

Hoping to join the ranks soon :)
 
excalibur2 said:
CZJ or Pentacon 135mm can give some very good results..I have the CZJ 135mm Sonnar and it's a cracker optically, but many (or quite a few) are let down by the mechanical side with sticking blades...mine included (if I leave it stored wide open it wont close).
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It's a Carl Zeiss Jena MC 3.5. It's in perfect condition too, aperture blades are very smooth :) It's very heavy when combined with the tank that is the MTL5 so maybe getting an adaptor for one of the Minoltas would be a good call.
 
mothdust said:
Also, what would people recommend for cleaning the outside of the XA4?
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Well I spray a cotton bud with dashboard silicon polish, you can get in all the corners of the body (making sure nothing gets on the lens in case of smears) then a final polish with clean rag.
 
Ebilpirate said:
please excuse the iphone photo
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Actually, that's quite a good image for a phone.

mothdust said:
I knew my parents used to have an Olympus XA, I remember it from my childhood. What I didn't know was that it was the XA4, the rare wide angle version!
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I bought an XA4 for 50p at a car boot sale a few years ago. It sold on ebay for £60 last month. Quite a surprise!


Steve.
 
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Steve Smith said:
Actually, that's quite a good image for a phone.



I bought an XA4 for 50p at a car boot sale a few years ago. It sold on ebay for £60 last month. Quite a surprise!


Steve.
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My best boot sale bargain was an Ohnar 300mm mirror lens which I bought with some other bits and pieces listed on this thread.

The lens sold a few months later on Ebay for £180. Ever since then I've been on the lookout for similar bargains.
 
Steve Smith said:
Actually, that's quite a good image for a phone.



I bought an XA4 for 50p at a car boot sale a few years ago. It sold on ebay for £60 last month. Quite a surprise!


Steve.
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It was only made for a year apparently - from 1985-86.
 
Picked up a canon eos 3000n for a tenner today, i'm guessing it isnt exactly a bargain but was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it..? Came with the 28-90mm ef which is what tempted me because i'm guessing thats not the kit lens?
 
Just got my mitts on a Zenit TTL with Helios 44M lens and what I believe are macro extender tubes. Pics once I get home
 
A new toy which isnt a camera! Got it for a steal off fleabay, i'd stick it back on for a profit if i wasn't going to use it so much. I can finally try some colour dev's

 
^^^^^^

Looks very impressive.
 
That CPE2 Plus looks to be in really clean condition. They either go for fortunes or you can get lucky if its collection only and no one else wants to go there or its sold as faulty. I picked a CPA2 up from Weymouth for 20 which was a bit of a trek and an excuse to wonder round Purbeck.

Sellers who are not knowledgable about them often don't think to try the thermal cut out other than than mine just needed about half an hours tlc to sort the pump out.
 
its in lovely nick, just got to work out how best to load my 5x4's. There was another tank that came with it that was smaller so might be better. I cant believe how much they go for considering its just a flimsy plastic tray with a thermostat and a small motor. You could probably knock something up with a mechano set and a garden seed tray :)
 
essexash said:
You could probably knock something up with a mechano set and a garden seed tray :)
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now there's an idea:thumbs:...I've got a meccano set knocking about...not very practical with it though outside of the "instruction book".....could do with a 10 year old to help out:D
 
The drum shown in your picture is a 2840 that is for prints you can use parts of it for a film tank, if you detach the long extention and use the base you would have what is effectively a 2500 series film tank that could be used with a 5509n reel to develop six 5x4 sheets you would also need to change the breaker in the lid fir a funnel and get the right centre core, if you have other tanks with it you may aleady have the parts you need.

On a CPE2 Plus you are limited to a maxium of 600ml of solution so the larest tank you can use for 5x4 is the 2553 which takes five reels of 35mm or two of the 2509n reels for 12 5x4's at once.

The 2509n reels are still available new First Call lists them at 34.69 which is cheaper than you will see some people trying to sell used ones for on ebay.
 
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Ive just received a Pentax-M 85mm f/2 lens, bought off the bay. Not a bad price, very quick delivery, and externally looks very nice. Almost unbelievably compact! Described as "blades are clean and snappy", but the aperture blades seemed a bit slow to open/close to me when I looked through, in comparison to another lens. Is this a common issue? Any easy way to test it other than try it and wait until the film is processed? (I don't have a digital Pentax...)
 
If they are looking slow, then they probably are slow. Does it look like there's any oil on them? I definitely wouldn't try the lens out with a roll of Velvia!
 
No, there's no oil visible on either side. If I move the lever to open up the aperture, then let go, it seems to take an age for them to close again (if I say "two" as I let go, I've finished saying it before the blades close). Moving the lever shows quite a bit of resistance compared to the other two lenses.
 
That's definitely too slow - if they are slow closing, then they'll likely overexpose on the image. Without visible oil on them, then it could be a problem with the linkage. I had a 28mm Tak that had a similar problem before and it turned out to be a slightly bent linkage that was easily fixed. If the lens really was a bargain, then it could be worth opening the back to see if anything it out of place if you're happy doing that sort of thing.
 
Would it cause over exposure though? Isn't the shutter speed dictated by the shutter on the body not the diaphragm on the lens, on this type of camera any way. Isn't the risk if its slow to close it mightn't be opening quickly enough?
 
No, with pentax the lens is open until the shutter is actuated, then it stops down to the correct value and the shutter fires. If it's slow closing, then the shutter might fire at an effective f4 aperture, when you've metered for f8, so overexposure results. I imagine a lot of makes would have similar results.
 
The real issue is that it definitely is not as described, judging from what you have told us about the lens.
 
Yes, it's definitely not as described. I've contacted the seller, no answer yet. Harrow Technical say it'll cost me about £50 to service the lens; they suggest oil on the blades though as I say none is visible. If I can get a bit off from the seller, it may still be worth it; the BIN prices on the bay seem to be about £200 to £250 for this lens. I'm definitely NOT opening it up myself, having looked at some of the threads about that!

Of course if I returned it, for only £250 I could get a new Samyang f/1.4, which I think is an A lens, but it does weigh a lot more...
 
ChrisR said:
Of course if I returned it, for only £250 I could get a new Samyang f/1.4, which I think is an A lens, but it does weigh a lot more...
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I certainly hope that everything works out well for you with the 85mm f/2, but I must say that the Samyang is an absolutely fantastic lens.
 
ChrisR said:
Yes, it's definitely not as described. I've contacted the seller, no answer yet. Harrow Technical say it'll cost me about £50 to service the lens; they suggest oil on the blades though as I say none is visible. If I can get a bit off from the seller, it may still be worth it; the BIN prices on the bay seem to be about £200 to £250 for this lens. I'm definitely NOT opening it up myself, having looked at some of the threads about that!

Of course if I returned it, for only £250 I could get a new Samyang f/1.4, which I think is an A lens, but it does weigh a lot more...
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If you want a repair to be potentially a bit cheaper then you might want to try Miles Whitehead, he quoted me £30 to repair a Minolta 35 - 70mm f4 with an aperture stuck wide open (assuming it was oil/grease on the blades like he said it very likely was from how I described it). I didn't get the lens repaired as it was worth less than that and got my money back for it but the work by Miles is usually of an exceptionally high standard for the lower prices he charges.
 
skysh4rk said:
I certainly hope that everything works out well for you with the 85mm f/2, but I must say that the Samyang is an absolutely fantastic lens.
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Thanks RJ. There's now a dispute opened (didn't quite realise I was doing that by ticking the "not as described" box), and I've asked for a partial refund to pay for the refurb. We'll see.

Glad to know the Samyang is good. Two big advantages over the Pentax-M: an extra stop and an "A" lens, that will work on digital Pentax bodies. OTOH it's 510gm vs 250 for the Pentax-M. The ME/MX bodies are small with little grip, and I find heavier lenses a problem to manage (the 85-210 Tamron-F is over 700gm, it's a pain to carry and near impossible to use unless on a tripod).

I _am_ getting a bit worried that I'm building a collection of Pentax-M lenses that can't be used on digital bodies. I don't really understand why they could not have been used in M or A mode, but that seems to be a decision Pentax has made, rather against their general "any lens on any body" approach. But this probably contributes to the lower cost of these lenses (the Pentax-A 85mm is ~£500+... but it _is_ a star lens!).

s162216 said:
If you want a repair to be potentially a bit cheaper then you might want to try Miles Whitehead, he quoted me £30 to repair a Minolta 35 - 70mm f4 with an aperture stuck wide open
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Good to know, thanks. I might ask him about the body CLA cost as well. I've tried someone else on Jon Goodman's recommendation but he hasn't replied yet.
 
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ChrisR said:
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I _am_ getting a bit worried that I'm building a collection of Pentax-M lenses that can't be used on digital bodies. I don't really understand why they could not have been used in M or A mode, but that seems to be a decision Pentax has made, rather against their general "any lens on any body" approach. But this probably contributes to the lower cost of these lenses (the Pentax-A 85mm is ~£500+... but it _is_ a star lens!).
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You can use them in manual mode or aperture priority (sort of) on modern Pentax DSLR's, just set the lens to the manual iris setting and use the manual mode on the DSLR: turn the aperture ring to the setting you want (the viewfinder will get darker as you stop down) and press the Green button on the camera body, that will set a shutter speed for the amount of light coming in and you can then take a picture. O.K so its not quite as convenient as you have to press the green button every time you change the aperture etc but you can still use the lenses!

If I remember you have to set the green button to give a shutter speed in the menus, but it tells you how to do it in the instructions.

It is unfortunate that you can't use the original style K mount lenses in the ordinary aperture priority, but at the moment Pentax has not released a DSLR with a mount that has the necessary lug to read the aperture the lens is set to as the A series onwards give that information via electronic contacts that the earlier lenses don't have. I suppose it just cuts a bit of the price off the camera.
 
Looks like Darth Vader's even more evil brother.:D
 
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