OCA The Art of Photography Course Discussion Including Assignments and Submissions

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Think i must have shot about 30 photos today covering 2 of the pairs - many:few and straight:curved. Happy that ive got 4 images that i think look excellent, 2 pairs down 6 pairs to go lol!!

Hopefully get a few more pairs in the bag tomorrow, a few in the week and then finish it off next weekend.

Did you send your assignment in on disc or print them out and present them mounted? I'm going to get mine printed out in A5 and mount them for my tutor, then copy my learning log onto disc and send it all down.
 
I printed mine in a4 size. My tutor likes them bordered, not using the whole page for the print. I got mine done at a professional lab for the best quality.
 
I printed mine in a4 size. My tutor likes them bordered, not using the whole page for the print. I got mine done at a professional lab for the best quality.

Thanks for that mate, gives me a good idea of what other are doing for presenting their assignments.

Got 4 pairs sorted over the weekend and the other 4 will hopefully be done by this coming weekend. Its actually harder than I thought it would be, I seem to be very picky with my shots now lol
 
Hi all,

I am well behind on the exercises and now I am going away for 2 weeks and I can't take my dslr :(. I have too much baby stuff to carry on to the plane so no room for the 50d :(. I will however have my Panasonic lx5 and while it is a point and shoot it is a rather capable camera. Do you guys think I will be ok shooting for projects using the lx5? The course does say it's not meant to be about the camera.

Cheers
Dub
 
As with everything, why not try it and see? If it's no good then don't use it but you may get some great shots.
 
Well ive finally finished Assignment 1, well ive got all the shots i need now anyway. Spending the afternoon tomorrow getting them processed and ready to go to print. All being well they should be on my tutors desk by the end of next week.

All-in-all its took me 3 weeks from start to finish which is much longer than I had anticipated. I think i need better planning for the next assignment.

Images will be posted up on my blog by next week :cool:
 
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Well ive finally finished Assignment 1, well ive got all the shots i need now anyway. Spending the afternoon tomorrow getting them processed and ready to go to print. All being well they should be on my tutors desk by the end of next week.

All-in-all its took me 3 weeks from start to finish which is much longer than I had anticipated. I think i need better planning for the next assignment.

Images will be posted up on my blog by next week :cool:

Gratz! Look forward to seeing them.
 
Does anyone have any experience of the 2nd/3rd parts of this course (level 5 & 6) - reading through the handbook, the first year modules seem very structured and focused, then the 2nd year is more critic than creative (ie. researching other people's photographs instead of making your own) - and the 3rd year is so completely vague that the two modules have virtually identical descriptions...:thinking: maybe this is normal for an Arts degree... :suspect:
 
FINALLY..........All 17 images processed and sent for printing at my kinds friends at Snapfish. Cant wait to get them back and see how they look. Hopefully the assignment will be on my tutors desk by Friday :cool:

That was hard work, really didnt expect it to take so long. Ah well onwards and upwards and onto Part Two of the course :D
 
FINALLY..........All 17 images processed and sent for printing at my kinds friends at Snapfish. Cant wait to get them back and see how they look. Hopefully the assignment will be on my tutors desk by Friday :cool:

That was hard work, really didnt expect it to take so long. Ah well onwards and upwards and onto Part Two of the course :D

What size have you had them printed A4 ? and what finish did you go for gloss or satin ? cant wait to see your images looking forward to it.
 
What size have you had them printed A4 ? and what finish did you go for gloss or satin ? cant wait to see your images looking forward to it.

My tutor said he wanted them around A5 on glossy and mounted on card so ive sent them to be printed at 8"x6" and brought some card mounts from a craft shop.

I wanted to try and fine the mounts with space for 2 individual images so i could show each contrasting pair in 1 mount, if that makes sence?? But i couldnt find any for love nor money so I bought 17 single 10"x8" mounts which house 8"x6" photos.

Ive also done a write up of all the images ive taken, reasons for taking them and setting used as some back up info. All thats left it to download my blog and burn it to disc, may do it as a pdf so it looks bang on but also with a link to my onlie version??

Should have the images back in about 4 days so will hopefully get ti down to my tutor by the weekend.

Next time around I may go for A4 prints but will wait to see what feedback i get first.
 
I send 12 x 8's or A4

I really must get on with mine, I've hit a bit of a stalemate recently. Everything I take is good but useless for the course
 
Does anyone have any experience of the 2nd/3rd parts of this course (level 5 & 6) - reading through the handbook, the first year modules seem very structured and focused, then the 2nd year is more critic than creative (ie. researching other people's photographs instead of making your own) - and the 3rd year is so completely vague that the two modules have virtually identical descriptions...:thinking: maybe this is normal for an Arts degree... :suspect:

Hi Flossie. I'm currently working on Your Own Portfolio having gone through the full set of L1/2 courses (i.e. no APEL - TAOP, PAP, UVC, PWDP and Landscape). The three different levels are indeed very different, that's a fair comment. However, there's more to it than what you've said.

From my own perspective, Level 1(4) provides you with the basic tools and a dose of confidence to get out there and take photographs. For example, TAOP is very structured, take photographs that show this or that: looking at contrasts for the assignment is a classic example. Yes, you can take a photograph of a pin and a hammer (sharp and blunt), but if you put the time in and do some research at this early level, you can do something extra. So you see, looking at other artists is not something just for the later levels....

At level 2(5), there are still requests to take a photograph to show something in particular, but by this point it is expected that you will be more confident in achieving things, perhaps more willing to take risks with your photography, for example I photographed roundabouts to show the progression of the seasons - yes, that was a risk, and I'm hoping to soon find out whether it's paid off. There's also the more academic side of things coming in too (an essay per module), which can be a bit of a shock after the L1 stuff. However, it's an honours degree at the end of the day, and you don't get a degree just because you've read Amateur Photographer for the last 20 years (if you did I'd have one in photography, one in film and cinema, another in IT, one in football, etc. Oh, you get the idea). At this level you are still making your own photographs too, don't be fooled into thinking you don't.

I'm just at the start of Your Own Portfolio, and yes there's less structure to the notes, less direction. This is to allow you to head off in directions that interest you, or at least that's how I see it. For example, if I wanted to shoot wildlife, I could do it. There isn't a previous module on wildlife photography although you can use the genre to illustrate the subjects requested in TAOP, etc. Yes, this is quite daunting, and I admit that I feel a little dizzy from the prospect of heading forward, but that's only because I haven't decided how or what I want to do yet. Once I've gestated that idea, there's only one way forward.

Anyway, I hope that helps. I don't pop up on here very often, but if you (or anyone else) have any specific questions, give me a shout on the Flickr forum...
 
My tutor said he wanted them around A5 on glossy and mounted on card so ive sent them to be printed at 8"x6" and brought some card mounts from a craft shop.

Flat mount on thin white A4 card - trust me, window mounts are unnecessary!

As for full bleed on A4, speaking to a tutor in a recent face to face, he preferred them mounted so they don't get fingers on them. Full bleed is fine when not been touched and passed around as they are at the assessments. That's why you see full bleed in galleries...
 
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Thankyou Rob - that's very helpful, put some flesh on the bones! Thankyou for that.

I need to do some more research and thinking, but I'm contemplating starting down the same road in a bit - I like the way I can stop at each level if I decide I don't have enough self-motivation for the later courses. The flexible pace is particularly appealing, because my work (and hence spare time) is extremely erratic over the year, so conventional courses are out.

TAOP looks like a great start anyway, I'm sure it'll be useful in its own right even if don't go futher - make more of a difference to my ability than another lens would! :lol:
 
make more of a difference to my ability than another lens would! :lol:

LOL

Seriously though, 90% of my work is done with the kit lens that came with my workhorse camera, probably another 5% with a compact and the rest with other bits and pieces such as a long zoom or a pinhole...

As far as TAOP is concerned, I guess the ideal kit would be a DSLR with a wide and long zoom so you cover the bases from, say, 24-200mm. And that's pretty much it. You can use other stuff, but you don't need them. And I'd be confident that I could do it with a compact camera or a micro-4/3, etc. It's what you do with it rather than the size that matters ;)

If you're not aware, there's the OCA Flickr group, why not pop on over and have a look (the names who've posted here recently don't ring any bells, now that might just be because they're different).
 
Ive had an email from my tutor saying he has recieved my first assignment and I should expect feedback in 1-2 days. So I have decided to upload all my images to my learning log and they are now live.

Id appreciate any feedback from fellow OCA'ers (and non-OCA'ers too) on how you think ive done with the contrasts of these images :shrug:

http://mattgilesphotography.blogspot.com/2011/03/assignment-one-contrasts.html

Really looking forward to recieving my tutor feedback, rather nervous too lol!!
 
Matt,

Looks great I'm sure you will get good feedback. I'm a non-OCA'er at the mo but seriously considering it.

You say 11 weeks from starting Art of Photography so is this the work you completed over that 11 weeks?

Good luck

John ;)

Hi John, thanks for the feedback much appreciated ;)

The assignment images, which i posted the link for in my above post, was the result of just 3 weeks work. If you go to the main homepage of my blog here: http://mattgilesphotography.blogspot.com/ you'll see on the righ nav bar under 'LABELS' a list of all the projects and assignments ive done since starting the course 11 weeks ago. Each project consists of an average of 3-4 exercises all of which require you to get out there and take photos of varying amounts (sometime just 3 but sometime 20).

It very much a pratical course and I seem to be out taking shots rather than at home reading pages upon pages of text, which is excellent. I seem to be 'learning by doing' at the moment. I do also back this up with additional reading material i have bought myself from DSLR magazines to dedicated books. Im half way though The Complete Guide to Black & White Phnotography at the moment, coinsidentaly (sp?) written by the same photographer who wrote TAOP course, Michael Freeman.
 
Ive had an email from my tutor saying he has recieved my first assignment and I should expect feedback in 1-2 days. So I have decided to upload all my images to my learning log and they are now live.

Id appreciate any feedback from fellow OCA'ers (and non-OCA'ers too) on how you think ive done with the contrasts of these images :shrug:

http://mattgilesphotography.blogspot.com/2011/03/assignment-one-contrasts.html

Really looking forward to recieving my tutor feedback, rather nervous too lol!!

Hi Matt,

Sorry - quick rushed look.

Straight/Curved. Love the straight shot but I tried to keep the subjects similar, so I'm not sure a banana goes with the bridge, nor black & white then colour.

Continuous/intermittant are much stronger shots, match nicely and I love the way you've taken what could possibly be a boring shot of the trees and made it interesting with the diagonals and shadows.

Light/Dark - love the light shot, especially the reflections in the sunglasses, not sure about the dark, nor the expression on her face.

Love the shot of the drills - really nicely lit, the lemons shot looks a little flat

An interesting set, some nice original ideas and a mix of shots/techniques.
Be interesting to see what your tutor makes of them.
 
And with over 6 weeks off I've finally got back into the swing. Finished off an exercise I've had a mental block on, and starting to work out ideas for Assignment 3. I've just had a week of product photography thats been inspiring so I think I may have got my creative mojo back.
 
Thanks for your comments Byker and if im honest not too far away from what my tutor has said.

Overall i was very pleased with my tutor feedback of my first assignment, which came in a 3 page document with a detailed critique of each image. I was really stoked to read that he thought several of my images were 'great images' in particular the images for straight, many, pointed and blunt. My images for continuous and intermittent were remarked as very good.

He did give some good critique and suggestions on some of my studio shots saying one or two of them lacked creativity and looked flat, in particular the shot for sour and sweet. I was also offered ideas of how to show my diagonal and rounded shots in a way that might have improved the composition.

The summery was that i produced some very good shots and presented my work well. I was told that i coiuld do with trying to use a little more imagination when planning my shots which i completely agree with.

Its given me a massive confidence boost that ill be taking onto the next chaper, Part Two: Elements of Design

:D
 
It's your first assignment though. If like me it's your first foray into learning again in may years then it takes a while to understand the way the work is to be presented and the level required. I believe the thing to do is to show progress, so just take the points and apply them to the next assignment.

Still -at least the dark months have gone :D
 
Are you guys doing this course just paying for it a block at a time?
I really fancy doing it, but when you add all the courses up it is pretty expensive!
 
Are you guys doing this course just paying for it a block at a time?
I really fancy doing it, but when you add all the courses up it is pretty expensive!

You just pay for the one part at a time.

Cheap when you consider most Uni's are putting fees up to £9k per year soon.
 
Just sent off assignment 3 and written it up in my blog.

I'm really glad that one is over. It started becoming an obsession and I was seeing everything as coloured blobs in relationships.

Still, really happy. I had about a month off after assignment 2 and had lost my mojo a little but it's all back now and has been reflected in a lot of product work I've done recently.

Onwards :D
 
I am seriously tempted with doing a BA hons degree as I can commit the time.

I was wondering if you guys ordered all your level 1 courses at once or are doing them all at once?

If you do them one at a time, wont it take 5 years to get a degree?

Is it do-able to do all 3 level 1 courses at once in 12 months?
 
It takes as long as it takes. If I could dedicate a lot of time to this (i.e. fulltime) I could easily finish the degree over 3 years. I'm just being practical saying 5 years as I seem to have shot everything but OCA work recently. I really need to start allocating some more time to this now.
I bought just the TAOP course first as it's designed to run the courses one after the other and I thought I'd see if I enjoyed it. I'd stick and do them in order. It's not about just doing the course material but also the support you get from your tutor.

Just had my feedback from my tutor - a full 6 page feedback, in detail, plus another couple of 4 page articles/assistance to read, plus a whole bunch of useful links to look at. I've some serious amount of reading to do :D
 
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I've been considering some further education for a long time, especially one based around my passion. This thread has been really informative, and has given me an excellent insight into what this OCA course entails, and how much commitment it demands. Thanks!

I'm very tempted...
 
It takes as long as it takes. If I could dedicate a lot of time to this (i.e. fulltime) I could easily finish the degree over 3 years. I'm just being practical saying 5 years as I seem to have shot everything but OCA work recently. I really need to start allocating some more time to this now.
I bought just the TAOP course first as it's designed to run the courses one after the other and I thought I'd see if I enjoyed it. I'd stick and do them in order. It's not about just doing the course material but also the support you get from your tutor.

Just had my feedback from my tutor - a full 6 page feedback, in detail, plus another couple of 4 page articles/assistance to read, plus a whole bunch of useful links to look at. I've some serious amount of reading to do :D

Interesting, thanks :)

I am seriously tempted as I have an interest in further education, but I am not sure if I will get what I want out of this degree :(

I know that its really the MA I am interested in, which means obviously I have no choice but to do the degree, but I think I would have been better off attending an arts university (and that boat has sailed) :(
 
There were several advantages I could see to this route.

It's a recognisable and transferable qualification(s)
It's broken up into parts that I can do at a pace that suits me.
If I decide it's not for me then I've only done a small part, or if I find it too much I can stop after so many modules and have a lesser qualification, but a recognisable one (HNC, HND)
 
Hi. Just to join in the conversation, I started in February 2008, and I'm now in my final "year" - looking at assessment in either July/November 2012. I've generally been doing 2 units at a time, except for when I started with TAOP, which I did in isolation. Of course with 2 units on the go, there's more work to be done, but you can switch between the 2 modules as the mood takes you.
You can't do the degree in less than 3 years, unless you have some prior learning to offset via APEL - you can only get 120pts marked each calendar year (July / November / March assessment dates).
Attending an arts uni would certainly have its benefits (access to equipment, etc), but at a cost and without the same degree of flexibility. The degree with OCA is currently coming in at under £5000 after the fee increase in July (sign on in June to avoid). As has been seen in the news, a single year at a bricks and mortar institution can cost up to £9000, not sure what an arts one will cost - more than £1600 per year I would happily wager.
As for an MA - I'm tempted, but still a little way to go yet!
 
FINALLLLLYYYYY!!!! finally finally finally I got over my nemesis - a sequence of composition :) I am now far less shy about going out in to a very busy situation with a camera stuck to my face too lol.

http://ocalog.blogspot.com/2011/06/exercise-sequence-of-composition.html

Any feedback would be appreciated.

As some of you may know I have not been able to take many pictures of late due to my wife having health problems. However, she is away this week so I am going to try and knock off as many exercises as possible! This week is crazy busy at work but I am hoping i can find some time around it to do what needs to be done to get me at least in to working on assignment 1.

I am SO far behind schedule it is not even funny :(

Dub
 
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I am thinking about this course as possibly an alternative to uni - see my post in here about Falmouth uni.
What are the fees on this OCA degree course going to go up to after June? Is it a major increase? Is around £5000 for the whole degree a good rough estimate of total costs?
If I went to Falmouth it would likely cost around £40K if I include living costs, course fees etc etc.

One plus to uni is going and living somewhere new and meeting some new folks. I am 27 so not a normal student age but since being a bit laid up with medical stuff (nothing too serious) I have become a bit stuck in a rut and would really like something to get stuck into for a few years rather than drifting around as I seem to be doing at the moment. On the OCA course are there any local groups and "summer school" type activities?

How much can you tailor the course to your particular area of interests? I am really interested in documentary/press/editorial and some sports type work. Reading though some of the OCA literature I feel I might have gone over quite a bit of the early stuff in my A-level photography course. Although of course I would probably still learn a lot from it.

I hope you don't mind me asking this question but what is the reason why you are doing the OCA course? Are you doing it for pleasure, to further career, to get a degree qualification, to learn more about photography?

Andy S
 
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There is SO much more to Uni than the studying part. It is a massive life experience. Most of my friends who went and I all say that Uni was the best time of our lives - and that was over 20 years ago for me! Ok you will come out in debt - but it is interest free and you will have a qualification. You will also have had an amazing time, learned loads about life, and make amazing friends.

Go to uni :) Just my 2 cents.

I am doing OCA for pleasure - may never turn it in to a degree and if i did it would only be for the sense of achievement.

Dub
 
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