NOT done in 'B' mode even

Would have looked better if they'd shifted to the left a little and used some fill flash, otherwise a good attempt.
;)
 
Terrible crop, they chopped the Klingon empire in half :lol:

Serious wow factor when you see that
 
Looks Shopped to me ;)




seriously ..... this is one amazing shot! Nasa r the NUTS!
 
I'm still getting over what I learned last year: we think the size of the universe is 46.5billion light years to get "from one side to the other"...unfathomable.

As for the image - puts things into perspective!
 
Yeah, quite big really. If my quick calculations are correct (and I'm certainly not sure) it makes the universe 272,754,864,000,000,000,000,000 miles across. I run out after trillions cause I don't know what comes next, but I sure wouldn't want to get from one side to the other in a hurry.
 
modchild said:
Yeah, quite big really. If my quick calculations are correct (and I'm certainly not sure) it makes the universe 272,754,864,000,000,000,000,000 miles across. I run out after trillions cause I don't know what comes next, but I sure wouldn't want to get from one side to the other in a hurry.
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I wonder is the scale is like a pinhead (the earth) to the earth (universe)....
 
Phil Young said:
I'm still getting over what I learned last year: we think the size of the universe is 46.5billion light years to get "from one side to the other"...unfathomable.

As for the image - puts things into perspective!
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so if it has sides what's beyond them ?
 
They should have posted it up in the crit section first so we could sort it out before giving it to the world press!
 
big soft moose said:
so if it has sides what's beyond them ?
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Stephen Hawkins has the best explanation around and think it goes a little something like this.

Imagine our universe is a bubble, there are billions of bubbles, all inside a big bubble, there are then billions of these bubbles all inside another big bubble. so on so fourth
 
I wonder what lightroom presets they used!

:shrug:
 
Phil Young said:
Ah man I just got rid of my headache from thinking about it!!!!!! ;)

I just remember reading that thinking wow. Apparently that was just the last estimation, it always gets bigger...

What a brainache.
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Dont mistake our universe for Space, our universe is 1 of an endless number so at the end of ours is another a few god knows amount of light years away

Our universe is getting bigger because of the big bang. think of an explosion how it ripples outwards, well this is what happened with the big band (Or many big bangs) but in space it has nothing to slow it down so it is still happening. thats how we know about the big bang because you can see it. and thats why the distance changes.

Or thats what i have learned from watching Discovery channel :D
 
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DannyDMR said:
Dont mistake our universe for Space, our universe is 1 of an endless number so at the end of ours is another a few god knows amount of light years away

Our universe is getting bigger because of the big bang. think of an explosion how it ripples outwards, well this is what happened with the big band (Or many big bangs) but in space it has nothing to slow it down so it is still happening. thats how we know about the big bang because you can see it. and thats why the distance changes.

Or thats what i have learned from watching Discovery channel :D
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yeah but if ours is expanding , whatever is beyond its boundaries must be shrinking :shrug:
 
DannyDMR said:
Our universe is getting bigger because of the big bang.........[edit] .... but in space it has nothing to slow it down so it is still happening.
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This the real problem. that's NOT what's happening at all! There is enough mass in the universe to slow it down by gravity alone, there HAS to be because if there wasn't then galaxies could not hold together BUT there are two problems:

a) We know enough mass exists but we don't know what 96% of it actually is (aka "Dark Matter")

and, worse...

b) The universe isn't just getting bigger, it's accelerating. That means there is a force acting on it, all of it. You can't accelerate for 13bn years from one nano-second bang alone, there HAS to be a continuous force to cause an acceleration. And we dont know what that is either (aka "Dark Energy").

Don't get me started on "Dark Flow" cos that's truly scary. Anyway, something is pulling us apart, faster and faster, and we have no idea what that is. I suspect that one day we'll work it out but it won't be in my lifetime, sadly, cos I WANT to know!
 
5,500 galaxies, each of which contains around 100,000,000,000 stars. And that image represents about 0.002% of the whole sky.

If there is a creator she's incredibly wasteful.
 
WilliamC said:
This the real problem. that's NOT what's happening at all! There is enough mass in the universe to slow it down by gravity alone, there HAS to be because if there wasn't then galaxies could not hold together BUT there are two problems:

a) We know enough mass exists but we don't know what 96% of it actually is (aka "Dark Matter")

and, worse...

b) The universe isn't just getting bigger, it's accelerating. That means there is a force acting on it, all of it. You can't accelerate for 13bn years from one nano-second bang alone, there HAS to be a continuous force to cause an acceleration. And we dont know what that is either (aka "Dark Energy").

Don't get me started on "Dark Flow" cos that's truly scary. Anyway, something is pulling us apart, faster and faster, and we have no idea what that is. I suspect that one day we'll work it out but it won't be in my lifetime, sadly, cos I WANT to know!
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whats to say gravity is pulling it and not pushing it out
 
DannyDMR said:
Dont mistake our universe for Space, our universe is 1 of an endless number so at the end of ours is another a few god knows amount of light years away

Our universe is getting bigger because of the big bang. think of an explosion how it ripples outwards, well this is what happened with the big band (Or many big bangs) but in space it has nothing to slow it down so it is still happening. thats how we know about the big bang because you can see it. and thats why the distance changes.

Or thats what i have learned from watching Discovery channel :D
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So wait a second....

Our universe is 46billion light years "wide" ...and there's more like that?! I need to have a chat with Picard lol.
 
Last time I read up a lot on 'space' and all its properties the book said there was more stars in the universe than there is grains of sand on the earth, and all those stars are in some ways similar to our sun and many have planetary systems.

And to think, we have to bloody live on one that gets so cold in the winter lol
 
Phil Young said:
1 teaspoon amount would weigh more than all the people on earth!!!!!
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I really struggled with these "incredibly dense things" until I found out how much fresh air there is in just one atom. The best analogy I came across was that if the centre spot at Wembley was the nucleus of an atom then the cloud of electrons around it would be outside the stadium! Lose that wasted space and the population of Earth fit in the palm of your hand :eek:

The real trouble is that if you start reading up on all this then you eventually discover quantum wierdness and then you start to think you need some counselling cos "the totally impossible" happens, quite a lot :D
 
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