Not Another Wedding Thread

santana007 said:
i asked the registrar about the photo`s because she came to the door , showed me to the room, she knew all about the wedding in question so i asked her .
she should have said i am not conducting that wedding .
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Sorry, but the first question is to check the registrar is the one that will actually be performing the service.
 
Looking at the photos you have posted at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fibi3b/
It looks to me as you got the kind of access that is typical at many weddings - it's just a case of making the best use of the light and the access and learn to live with the restrictions imposed by the environment you were shooting in.
 
which i did!!!! the point of this thread was to discuss how many Vicars were similar to the one i had to deal with (although i would hope alot were more polite) and whether there was really any point to it

i'm sorry you didnt like the shots i got sporty. good job they arent for your wedding eh
 
pxl8 said:
How does the photographer know what the couple want? :thinking:

The photographer should go through a list of shots and discuss it with them. Then when the couple say we really want a shot of the rings, vows, kiss, whatever the photographer should be saying ok, have you asked the vicar about this? If not I suggest you do as some can have very strict rules about photography during the service. Make it clear these shots are important to you. It will sound a lot better coming from you and carry a lot more weight than if I just ask on the day. If we plan this properly then we can make it happen. I expect the vicar will have some questions or concerns and I'm happy to phone or meet with them prior to the wedding to work out a plan of action and put their mind at rest.

If the vicar still says no at least the couple are aware of it long before the wedding day and we have a chance to think of alternative ways of getting the shots. Stage them after the service, for example.

Just turning up and winging it will lead to disappointment.
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there are some really good points in here

but i must say your use of smilies makes me want to punch you a little bit!!

however, this is exactly the sort of advice i was hoping for when i posted this thread
 
feeb said:
which i did!!!! the point of this thread was to discuss how many Vicars were similar to the one i had to deal with (although i would hope alot were more polite) and whether there was really any point to it
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And several people including myself have answered to the effect the access you got may be typical of many wedding - in fact weddinghack gave you a very good answer almost straight away.



feeb said:
i'm sorry you didnt like the shots i got sporty. good job they arent for your wedding eh
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That's a bit of an unfair answer considering I've taken the time to offer suggestions how to help the problem that YOU suggested you had both with access and exposure due to the back lighting.

feeb said:
[FONT=&quot]So there is a huge great window at the back of the church, meaning that most of the shots showing the couple haven't come out all that well,....... [/FONT]
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I've also taken the time to have a look at your photos and to also put a link in this thread so that others may be able to offer some advice, and at no point have i said i did not like your photos have I?
 
feeb said:
anyhoo, so i get to the church, meet the Vicar (who is an incredibly uppity woman) who informs me, very brashly, that there will be no flash used within the church, and that i was not allowed, at any point to move behind her. Only to the side.

So there is a huge great window at the back of the church, meaning that most of the shots showing the couple havent come out all that well, but any shots i took of her were fantastic (she was to the left of the window, so she didnt get glared out by the light coming through)

Now i must ask, is it normal for Vicars or whoever is doing the service to be this fussy? because i am sure the bride and groom would have loved ONE decent shot of themselves getting married (which i think i managed to get) but she seemed far more interested in herself than what they might want from their own wedding!

this was the first wedding i have ever done, and i wondered if it was normal

ta very muchly
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You have to learn to deal with windows, churches are dark places with window in all the wrong places...

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TBH I think the vicar was pretty reasonable in her request. As has been said before, her house her rules. I have a wedding on Wednesday where the Rev. has said no photography at all during the ceremony. I'm hoping to convince her to let me take a few at first kiss etc, but otherwise they're the rules.

As photographer it's not your job to question the rules, maybe bend them a bit if you think you'll get away with it, but they're the rules. When you speak to the couple before hand you need to check the situation, and get THEM to agree what the tog can do. Because as the tog, your wants and opinions count for nothing in the end, you're doing a job.

Pete
 
yep, i have certainly learnt alot from this!

great photo btw! if i ever do weddings again i will definatly have alot more interaction with the couple and the vicar beforehand

in my ignorance i thought there was no problem with the photographers at weddings and everything would be dandy

has been a short sharp shock i assure you!
 
sportysnaps said:
I've also taken the time to have a look at your photos and to also put a link in this thread so that others may be able to offer some advice, and at no point have i said i did not like your photos have I?
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this thread was not meant to be about mine or anyone elses individual pictures!! it was simply meant to be a thread about wedding photography in general and the problems we are all going to come across

had i wished to link to my images, i would have done so myself thanks
 
i don't know how relevant my reply is, given what's been said before me, but the one wedding i did (not my cup of tea) was a free-for-all photography wise. anyone and everyone was snapping away as they wished, which made it relatively easy for me.....

however, on the subject of brash vicars......... the minister who was supposed to conduct my own wedding ceremony was a bit of a nightmare. his views on what went and what didn't were all that he was concerned with, and he was rude into the bargain with little or no consideration to our wishes or wants etc. etc.

fortunately, he went on holiday for our big day and we got his stand in who was amazing.

now having spent a lot of time in churches, i understand that they are a place of worship and the wishes of the vicar/minister needs to be respected. however, if they are charging for their time or use of the facilities etc. then there should be a little bit of give and take to find a sensible common ground......
 
nowler said:
however, if they are charging for their time or use of the facilities etc. then there should be a little bit of give and take to find a sensible common ground......
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A common misconception. The fees are for the certificate and the banns plus any extras such as organist, choir, etc. But strictly speaking you're not "hiring" the church or the vicar.
 
from memory, we made a payment to the organist, a payment to the church beadle, a payment to the church and a donation to the stand-in minister. i think the payment to the church was classed as a donation, but there was a minimum donation and it had to be made prior to the wedding taking place. it was also substantial and would have easily payed for the banns and certificate with hundereds to spare........
 
well for this one, they took the money off my folks, then happened to move the date of some renovation work on the outside of the church, covered the whole thing in scaffolding, complete with portaloo and pleasant green netting (was well horrid) which as you can image put a dampener on the day, and really really limited the amount of photos that could be taken outside the church.

Michelle (the bride) was mortified and very upset, i did my best with what was there, but they were so messed around and it would only have been fair to allow them some decent shots inside the church

As it was the vicar was a cold unfeeling cow and i think this swayed my opinion of her far more than what she was saying.

i did my best with what was there, but i still stress that there was no reason for it to be that difficult, no reason for her to be so rude and no reason for anyone to have been put out.
 
When i got married our church had a balcony and the photographer took most of his photo's from up above, our vicar (a woman) was not all that bothered about the photographer she was quite assertive to our wants, the only thing she would not allow is again for the photographer to stand behind her but she even posed in some herself.
 
Religion brings the worst out of people - ban it!

However, well done on doing the job and I wish you luck in getting some good photos and you're happy with them. You've done more than I would - I'll stick with Motorsport and keep well away from Weddings ;)

Carl.
 
sadly some vicars are pretentious , pompus A holes and some are absolutely brilliant.
we always make a point of telling our clients that what is alowed as far as photography in church , and register offices varies wildly.
and we will always do our best to get the required shots.

we had a stroppy stand in vicar recently who wouldnt let us take anything in the church past the b and g entering. and gave tina about a minute to shoot the register shots.
even turfed me out while shooting the groom and best man waiting at the front. this is 15 mins before the bride was due to arrive.
the b and g ARE SO INSENCED that they are complaining to the church authority.
after the service, the best man called the vicar something VERY rude.
ive found talking to them reasonably before the service, and reasuring them , your not going to distract from the service, use flash, or move around usualy helps chill em out.
but this one was a prize arse.
he nearly sprinted out of the church afterwards.
sadly his requests not to use confetti outside the church were ignored by the wedding party. oh dear , what a shame.:lol:
 
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