NO TRIPODS - LONDON

So the upshot of all this discussion is....

Set up your tripod......and say it's NOT for commercial purposes

am I not right..??? :shrug::shrug::bang::bonk::shrug::geek::rules::baby:::thumbsdown::help:


No wonder this world's full of cranks.........society (and power-mad security guards) are driving us all to it...:lol:
 
garymercer said:
Maybe we need to get some of those yellow signs made up like those used by cleaners for slippery surfaces etc...

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EDIT : Oh and some tape that says "TRIPOD LINE, DO NOT CROSS"
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That sign will never do

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You need one of these at least
 
onform said:
the way i see it is you just need to be quick...;)
Have all your camera settings ready set, camera round ya neck whip open the tripod legs pop the camera on fire off three or four shots before the poxy security can even get there.. after all they have to finish there doughnut put the tea down then haul their unfit asses half way across the complex.

then claim ignorance and walk away..voilà :coat:
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It's that seventeenth round of toast that slows them down. Wayne
 
I was figuring it would be around £400p/h, so not surprised that it is indeed £500p/h, as one only really needs one hour of actual shooting time, unless doing a movie scene!
 
EdinburghGary said:
Canary Wharf, I kid you not. Taken from another thread, what the hell do you make of it? I laughed at the guy a lot, I had to.

I came out of Canary Wharf underground, and put my tripod on the ground. Took 3 or 4 shots, before an out of breath security guard approached...
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You might be interested in some experiences I've had.

The Canary Wharf area is apparently not public land, which is why it's staffed with all those poorly-trained rent-a-cops. They do require a permit for commercial photography, and the dimwits assume that anyone with a big black camera on a tripod is making money (if only!...). The solution is simple, though. Go to the One Canada Square in the middle of Canary Wharf and ask someone at the front desk to put you through the the Press Officer. Tell him you're an amateur photographer and want to take some pictures and he'll say there's no problem at all (he was very helpful when I chatted to him). In order to scare off any roving rent-a-cops, ask the receptionist to write his name on one of their temporary ID tags. I have a little Canary Wharf tag with 'Hamish McDougall->Press Office' written on it which I keep in a pocket of my coat and has proved effective at dismissing any jobsworths who try to harass me when I set up my tripod. Show these people something that looks vaguely official and they'll back down.

I also ran into the 'no tripods' nonsense recently when photographing the sunrise from Alexandra Palace. Some security bozo claimed there was a bylaw that prohibited the use of tripods (the place was deserted, this was 8:00am on a freezing Saturday morning when I'd already been photographing for an hour). I politely but firmly stuck to my guns and said I couldn't see how there could be a law against taking pictures of the sky until he finally radioed in, whereupon his supervisor told him to stand down. Ring one up for common sense.
 
Richard Peters said:
You get the same thing at the London Eye.
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I have come across that in museums with the added quirk that they sold permits for a few bob that sanctioned tripod use.
I think there are legal liability issues in private places that permit public entry.
 
What a load of pap!

I can see their point when they don't allow tripod in buildings. *lovingly strokes monopod*

But outside...with lots of space and a clear view of you from many yards around...

WTFBBQ TBH.
 
charleski said:
You might be interested in some experiences I've had.

The Canary Wharf area is apparently not public land, which is why it's staffed with all those poorly-trained rent-a-cops. They do require a permit for commercial photography, and the dimwits assume that anyone with a big black camera on a tripod is making money (if only!...). The solution is simple, though. Go to the One Canada Square in the middle of Canary Wharf and ask someone at the front desk to put you through the the Press Officer. Tell him you're an amateur photographer and want to take some pictures and he'll say there's no problem at all (he was very helpful when I chatted to him). In order to scare off any roving rent-a-cops, ask the receptionist to write his name on one of their temporary ID tags. I have a little Canary Wharf tag with 'Hamish McDougall->Press Office' written on it which I keep in a pocket of my coat and has proved effective at dismissing any jobsworths who try to harass me when I set up my tripod. Show these people something that looks vaguely official and they'll back down.

I also ran into the 'no tripods' nonsense recently when photographing the sunrise from Alexandra Palace. Some security bozo claimed there was a bylaw that prohibited the use of tripods (the place was deserted, this was 8:00am on a freezing Saturday morning when I'd already been photographing for an hour). I politely but firmly stuck to my guns and said I couldn't see how there could be a law against taking pictures of the sky until he finally radioed in, whereupon his supervisor told him to stand down. Ring one up for common sense.
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Bloody hell, a sensible, well thought out, reasoned post!

The only thing I'd change is that I'd say it was better form to email or phone the press officer beforehand. There's no guarentee he'll be available if you just rock up.
 
Nice one Charleski, thanks for the info. Is Hamish McDougall the actual name of the press officer, or was that used "for example"?
 
I took one little battle this last Friday when we went to watch a local Pro 20 cricket match.

Now I was already a bit warmed up as the local supermarket we visited didn't stock my brand of yoghurt (AT ALL!:bang::bang::bang:)

So we queue up at the gates and have our cooler bag and everything searched at the entrance when bluecollar guard 1 notices my 'frotto 055 in my hand (how do you hide it anyway??) and Lowepro Computrekker AW Plus loaded to capacity.

So bluecollar guard 1 wants to take said bag from me when I ever so politely inform him that I will handle and show him the contents of the bag. So said, so done and B/C 1 radios for supervisor after I inform him that I am not satisfied with "you can't take that in..."

When B/C supervisor arrives the bag is back on my back and I am again standing tripod in hand.

She (supervisor) looks at tripod and demands to know where the rest of my camera is... I kid you not.

So I gesture to the bag on my back and she (predictably) wants to see the contents.

I remove bag from back (again) and present to her 2x 1D bodies, three lenses, two flashes, loads of filters and holders...well, you get the idea I'm sure...

So the most intelligent response I get is "Ooooohh no, you can't take THAT in..."

So I ask WHY? I want one good objective reason WHY I cannot take my private property in there.

Anyway 5 or 6 earpiece conversations, 2 or 3 higher supervisors, shuffling closer to security cameras and about 20 minutes later we are told that we may now go in and take all our kit.

Still no single objective reason as to why not in the first place:bonk::bonk::bonk:

Moral of the story?

Take yes for an answer!!
 
antonroland said:
Still no single objective reason as to why not in the first place:bonk::bonk::bonk:
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I'd guess because it was on private land (you mentioned having to queue at the gates) and they could therefore decide what they did and didn't allow in to their event? :shrug:
 
I can't be bothered reading through the whole thread, but in response to what's been posted about "The Gherkin", it might be worth me quoting the following page from Alamy.

Perhaps clears up some misconceptions.

Code: 
Tips and legal considerations

To ensure customer confidence in your images and avoid potential legal problems:

    * you cannot change the licence type for an image once it is set.
    * you must not submit the same or similar images as different licence types.
    * we may determine the licence type automatically from your answers to some of the annotation questions.
    * to avoid legal issues you must never set a licence as RF (but only as L with restrictions set for “Editorial use only”), if it:
          o contains people or domestic buildings without releases.
          o solely features a logo, trademark or copyrighted building - this is a copyright or trademark infringement. Note, images where the logo, trademark or copyrighted building is incidental (e.g. it’s visible but isn’t the central focus) can be submitted as Royalty Free.
          o Subjects which should never be Royalty Free
                +[B] 30 St Mary Axe, London (The Gherkin)[/B]
                + Adidas
                + Air shows and display teams such as the Red Arrows
                + American Museum of Natural History (AMNH)
                + Ant Farm - The Cadillac Ranch
                + Apple logo
                + Atomium, Brussels
                + Baltimore & Ohio Railroad Museum
                + Biltmore Estate
                + Bluetooth Logo
                + Boston Public Library
                + Buildings built by Frank LLoyd Wright
                + Celebrities
                + Chatsworth House
                + Chicago Board of Trade
                + Chrysler Building, NYC
                + CN Tower, Toronto
                + Coca Cola logo
                + Concorde
                + Crayola-crayons
                + Currency, if all the note is visible
                + Dance Steps on Broadway
                + Department of Treasury Seal
                + Disney Logos, Theme Parks & Products
                + Eiffel Tower Light Show at night
                + Empire State Building
                + European Union Flag
                + Faber-Castell pencils
                + Famous trophies or awards such as Grammy’s, Emmy’s, Oscars, Brit awards, BAFTA’s etc.
                + Federation Square, Melbourne
                + Flatiron Building
                + Graceland
                + Guggenheim Museum
                + Harley Davidson – logo and bikes
                + Henry Moore sculptures
                + Hershey’s Kiss Chocolates
                + Hollywood Walk of Fame
                + Hollywood Sign
                + International Fountain, Seattle
                + John Deere Machinery (Farm machinery/Tractors)
                + Kew Gardens
                + La Defense, Paris
                + Las Vegas Theme Hotels
                + Lego Products
                + Lone Cypress at Pebble Beach
                + Longwood Gardens
                + Louvre Pyramid, Paris
                + Mann's Chinese Theatre
                + Masonic Square & Compass
                + Mattel Inc.
                + McDonald’s logo
                + Merlion of Singapore
                + Millennium Park, Chicago
                + Milwaukee Art Museum
                + Mississippi, Delta Queen and Natchez Paddle Steamers
                + Monterey Bay Aquarium
                + Mystic Aquarium & Institute for Exploration
                + New Orleans Superdome
                + Newport Mansions
                + NY Stock Exchange
                + Oak Alley Plantation, Louisiana
                + Olympic Athletes, Logo (the Olympic Rings) and torch
                + Pike Place Market, Seattle
                + Princeton University
                + Radio City New York
                + Red Cross Emblem
                + Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (Cleveland, Ohio)
                + Rockefeller Center
                + Rubik’s and/or Rubik’s Cube
                + Sam Houston Statue
                + Samsung Phones
                + Scrabble
                + Sears Tower
                + Seattle Space Needle
                + Shrine of Remembrance, Melbourne
                + Smithsonian Institution
                + Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum
                + Superman and DC Comics
                + Swan Boats in Boston’s Public Gardens
                + Sweetheart Conversation Heart Candy
                + Sydney Opera House
                + Taipei 101
                + The British Airways London Eye
                + The Getty, The Getty Centre, & The J. Paul Getty Museum.
                + The London Underground Sign
                + The Pacific Exchange, The mercantile Exchange, etc.
                + The TGV train
                + Transamerica Pyramid
                + Tupperware Tower
                + Uluru (Ayers Rock)
                + Universal Studios
                + University of Alabama
                + US Military Service Insignia
                + Valencia- City of arts and sciences
                + Virginia House
                + Wall street bull
                + Williamsburg re-enactment
 
Simmotino said:
I'd guess because it was on private land (you mentioned having to queue at the gates) and they could therefore decide what they did and didn't allow in to their event? :shrug:
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I think the point was why they wouln't allow it - and with no good reason forthcoming (not that they need one) they caved as they realise it is a pety rule
 
Simmotino said:
I'd guess because it was on private land (you mentioned having to queue at the gates) and they could therefore decide what they did and didn't allow in to their event? :shrug:
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Fair enough if it is a private premises...but for what good reason can I not take in my toys when compacts are allowed?

For Pete's sake, metal framed camping chairs went in by the dozens so there goes the safety thing...
 
antonroland said:
Fair enough if it is a private premises...but for what good reason can I not take in my toys when compacts are allowed?

For Pete's sake, metal framed camping chairs went in by the dozens so there goes the safety thing...
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It's more about money I think - they sell the rights to shoot "professionally" at these kind of things and those who have paid (probably a ridiculously large amount) will not appreciate seeing a bunch of other people with "professional" cameras...

Therefore they make these rules to ensure the licenses they sell are worth more.

All IMO, of course.
 
OutLore said:
It's more about money I think - they sell the rights to shoot "professionally" at these kind of things and those who have paid (probably a ridiculously large amount) will not appreciate seeing a bunch of other people with "professional" cameras...

Therefore they make these rules to ensure the licenses they sell are worth more.

All IMO, of course.
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I hear you and that makes sense but there was no single Pro / press / magazine or any other serious photgrapher in sight inside the stadium.

Maybe nobody is willing to pay the asking price...

Ironically, the images I got were so-so as I pushed my 1D Mk IIN to the limits at ISO 3200 with a shutter speed of 1/320...lens was 70-200/2.8 with 2x converter fitted...:gag::gag: yes, I know

There is now all the reason I need to get a 400/2.8:nuts:
 
antonroland said:
I hear you and that makes sense but there was no single Pro / press / magazine or any other serious photgrapher in sight inside the stadium.

Maybe nobody is willing to pay the asking price...

Ironically, the images I got were so-so as I pushed my 1D Mk IIN to the limits at ISO 3200 with a shutter speed of 1/320...lens was 70-200/2.8 with 2x converter fitted...:gag::gag: yes, I know

There is now all the reason I need to get a 400/2.8:nuts:
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lol you needed a reason?
 
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