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So the latest advice is that there is no safe or healthy way to get a tan from sunlight, according to new guidance from the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE). The health watchdog's latest guidance also says an existing tan provides little protection against sun exposure.
Common sense really isn't it.

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I wonder how many will take the advice............and sit in the shade for a fag! :D
 
Total common sense. I never liked the tanned look, whenever I see someone like that I feel sad for them and think damaged skin. Yet still people refer to it as "looking healthy". Very odd.
 
Common sense dictates that the only way to tan via the sun, is to damage your skin in the process.
I didn't need the buffoons at NICE to tell me that.
 
viv1969 said:
Common sense dictates that the only way to tan via the sun, is to damage your skin in the process.
I didn't need the buffoons at NICE to tell me that.
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Not everyone is as clever as you. Of course those that aren't won't pay any attention to the advice.
 
viv1969 said:
Common sense dictates that the only way to tan via the sun, is to damage your skin in the process.
I didn't need the buffoons at NICE to tell me that.
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Unfortunately many people still don't get it. As such I think it is good that it is covered by the news. But I agree my parents taught me that from as well since like whenever :) all free time in the seventies was spend between our house in Italy and Ivory Coast and being a natural blonde I always covered up. So many more garments these days to protect yourself.
 
I thought it was common sense, intense sun exposure is never good, or 'healthy'
 
I think it's still not something people take seriously, I have a friend very ill with melanoma, and I have had at least six basal cell cancers removed myself. The latest leaving a scar over an inch long on my face, probably the consequence of sunbathing when I was younger. The last one was just a tiny spot and I had to insist that my doctor referred me, she said it was nothing, this isn't the first time my doctor has been wrong. Do seek advice and be insistent, if you have any doubts, the fact is that skin cancer kills people and it can be treated in the early stages. Sorry to to on a bit but when something like this touches your own life you do get a bit passionate about it.
 
Sorry, I'm going to buck the trend here but I love getting a bit of colour in the sun, makes me feel great!

My personal view is that sadly, if you're going to get cancer, you're going to get cancer and anything could be the trigger.

So unless you're going to live underground so you don't expose your skin to sunlight and live off a diet of water and organically grown veg there's not a lot you can do as it seems pretty much EVERYTHING *could* give you cancer.

OK, that's a bit flippant and I've lost 2 grandparents to the horrible disease. Yes you can help yourself a bit by eating sensibly, taking exercise, not smoking and moderating alcohol consumption but personally I'd rather live to 70 having enjoyed my life, doing/eating/drinking things I like than living to a miserable 90 :lol:
 
I wonder what effect all the masses amount of chemicals in sun cream are going to have? Or Vitamin D deficiencies?
 
susiejb said:
I think it's still not something people take seriously,
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When I lived in Spain, every year as we moved into the tourist season we saw the arrival of what the locals called las gambas (the prawns), which is how they referred to the British. Scores of raw-skinned, red people suffering for no good reason whatsoever and looking pathetically embarrassing too.. People generally lose all common sense as soon as they get off the plane.
 
Hi Russ ....I totally agree, we are bombarded with often conflicting health advice, my main point was don't ignore skin changes. I think the simple message is enjoy the sun but do take care, sun hats are much more fashionable now, use an appropriate factor sunscreen and don't bake yourself until you're red and sore. I love the sun too....it certainly is very uplifting not like these dreary wet days we've had this winter.

Just saw your post @Ricardodaforce ....when we had a hotel in Cornwall in the eighties we would often get guests with huge blisters from the sun, very painful, the thing is if you burn ....you will peel ....so a bit pointless really !
 
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Ricardodaforce said:
When I lived in Spain, every year as we moved into the tourist season we saw the arrival of what the locals called las gambas (the prawns), which is how they referred to the British. Scores of raw-skinned, red people suffering for no good reason whatsoever and looking pathetically embarrassing too.. People generally lose all common sense as soon as they get off the plane.
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I'm not sure they had common sense when they got on the plane :)
 
Used to get burned all too regularly - suncreams in the '60s and '70s weren't much good for all day protection, especially if you were in and out of the water all the time! I keep an eye on my skin to check for anything abnormal and these days use a waterproof all-day screen as well as staying under an umbrella (or the sea!) when on holiday (as much as possible). Still manage to get pink once or twice a year despite my best intentions.
 
susiejb said:
Hi Russ ....I totally agree, we are bombarded with often conflicting health advice, my main point was don't ignore skin changes. I think the simple message is enjoy the sun but do take care, sun hats are much more fashionable now, use an appropriate factor sunscreen and don't bake yourself until you're red and sore. I love the sun too....it certainly is very uplifting not like these dreary wet days we've had this winter.
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Absolutely :)

I'm quite lucky as I tan pretty easily, when I was on honeymoon in Gran Canaria the entertainment team didn't think I was English, when I asked why they said "English people don't normally tan like that, they just go red" :LOL:

One night I was watching football, there was an empty seat next to me and this guy said (in allo allo spanglish) "Excusssseeee meeee, is anyone sitting therrrre", my reply "No mate" in my best Essexshire accent had him confused!

As it happens, on the second day of our honeymoon we were really feeling the effects of the sun so had lunch and spent the rest of the day in the room where we slept from 13:00 - 17:00...... no really, actually slept :lol:
 
me and the wife were in gran canaria over xmas and it seems most of Europe don't give a fig about advice, so man middle age crispies sat around, quite bizarre. lots of dutch and germans, just the colour of conkers.
 
As with all things, we need balance. Balance says that you make sure you get regular exposure to sunlight to prevent vitamin D deficiency, but that you also don't expose yourself so much that you burn or damage the skin in other ways.
 
ancient_mariner said:
As with all things, we need balance. Balance says that you make sure you get regular exposure to sunlight to prevent vitamin D deficiency, but that you also don't expose yourself so much that you burn or damage the skin in other ways.
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My granddad used the phrase "little and often" :)

There are of course certain things you should abstain from completely (the obvious one for me is smoking and he didn't heed his own advice there) but generally speaking I think it works
 
when I am away on holiday I always wear factor 20 on my head , face and arms and generally keep my top on and long shorts.
I can't think why I would want to lay down and attract skin cancer on a sun lounger? just why?
 
Surely all of this is down to skin make up and the genetics of UV resistance? It can't just be a blanket statement as it seems to be
 
Sarg0r said:
Surely all of this is down to skin make up and the genetics of UV resistance? It can't just be a blanket statement as it seems to be
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I would imagine there is a level of that but, massive exposure such as "sun tanning" on holiday in Corfu kind of falls out of that I think.

I still here about people I know in there 40s and 50s that go and lay on a beach for a week solid covered in cream.
 
I'm not sure of the stats (and I really don't care ;) ) but you probably stand more chance of dying while driving to the beach to get the Tan :D
 
I find it mildly amusing that people from south east asia will try to have the palest complexion, whilst those from the northwestern hemisphere will aim for a deep tan.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
When I lived in Spain, every year as we moved into the tourist season we saw the arrival of what the locals called las gambas (the prawns), which is how they referred to the British. Scores of raw-skinned, red people suffering for no good reason whatsoever and looking pathetically embarrassing too.. People generally lose all common sense as soon as they get off the plane.
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They're just trying to store as much of it as they can to take home. :)
 
And now the sun is slowly killing us? :runaway:
We are all gonna die ( Yes little Nicky was on TV last night :D )

As mentioned Rickets is on the rise, no wonder people get S.A.D if they stay out of the sun,


Everything thing in moderation Eh? ;)
 
Sarg0r said:
Surely all of this is down to skin make up and the genetics of UV resistance? It can't just be a blanket statement as it seems to be
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I am lucky in that respect. One of my great-grandfathers was black and I naturally have darker than typical skin for an Englishman and go very dark when I have been in the sun.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
I am lucky in that respect. One of my great-grandfathers was black and I naturally have darker than typical skin for an Englishman and go very dark when I have been in the sun.
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I wonder if anyone has done the maths on skin cancer rates for the true Africans v White SA's, Aborigines v imported criminals I mean white Aussies etc?
 
Cobra said:
I wonder if anyone has done the maths on skin cancer rates for the true Africans v White SA's, Aborigines v imported criminals I mean white Aussies etc?
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That'll go down well. :D
 
Cobra said:
I wonder if anyone has done the maths on skin cancer rates for the true Africans v White SA's, Aborigines v imported criminals I mean white Aussies etc?
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Skin cancer rates are also increasing amongst black South Africans. Much higher UV levels are supposed to be responsible.
 
Ozone-layer holes aren't good for anyone.
 
White Caucasian Blonde female, spend most of my life outdoors, both work and leisure, don't burn, go red and the tan overnight,
never used suntan stuff, been told I look 10 years younger then my age, which I never lie about.
Couldn't care less about all these health issues that change daily, I enjoy my life, eat and drink what I want not what so expert tells
me I should, I get plenty of exercise at work, can walk miles and still go out for the evening.
My lifestyle may not be the healthiest according to so called experts but it sure as hell is fun, just off to cook some pancakes,
now should it be lemon or maple syrup and cream ? ;)
 
Growing up on the building sites, me and my mates were on with shorts and off with shirts as soon as the frost melted in our best tan competition. Even when I worked down south the cockney I ended up working with long term was exactly the same.
I wonder if us daft brickies are top of a league for daftness/skin cancer somewhere
I'm still pretty much the same and feel the Suns glow makes me happier. Memories of sitting in the sun with a pint and smoking weed are all happy ones but would have some stato tell me I'm going to die. I am going to, I'm just going to be a little happier and just accept it might be a bit sooner than if I lived in the fridge and ate seaweed
Saying that, if the last couple of Scottish summers are anything to go by I'm more likely to peg it from frost bite :D
 
BruceMo said:
just accept it might be a bit sooner than if I lived in the fridge and ate seaweed
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As the saying goes, do you really want to step into your grave in a perfectly preserved body?
Or slide sideways, screaming Wahoooooooooooooooo what a ride!
 
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Cobra said:
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As the saying goes, do you really want to step into your grave in a perfectly preserved body?
Or slide sideways, screaming Wahoooooooooooooooo what a ride!
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Who wants a grave, never been tied down in life sure as hell ain't going to spend eternity in a hole in the ground :D
 
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