No, eBay seller, just no!

When I stopped it was "right we're stopping smoking" moment, threw the fag money in a jar as an incentive and went cold turkey, when I see what they cost now i'm glad of bit of uncomfortable times, it was easier maybe because I worked 'down pit' and so could not smoke for large periods in the day anyway.
The ones I don't understand are the non smokers who never did tabacco who vape, some of the younger one tell me they do it cause "it's cool"
 
t's a peach and mango greek yoghurt cheesecake ice cream :D -
When I try and mix a double / triple etc flavour it always seems to go tits up :D

I do occasionally buy ready made from HERE and put a few drops of menthol in as well.
Always worth a shot ( :D ) at a quid each, and rapid delivery too.
Not sure if they ship over there though.

some of the younger one tell me they do it cause "it's cool"
It does seem to be a bit of a fashion statement among the hipsters.
 
It does seem to be a bit of a fashion statement among the hipsters.


That's what puts me off it! Gave up fags many years ago and put on the pounds almost as fast as I was saving them so was 1/2 tempted to take up minimal nicotine vaping to supress my appetite and assuage my sweet tooth.
 
When I stopped it was "right we're stopping smoking" moment, threw the fag money in a jar as an incentive and went cold turkey, when I see what they cost now i'm glad of bit of uncomfortable times, it was easier maybe because I worked 'down pit' and so could not smoke for large periods in the day anyway.
The ones I don't understand are the non smokers who never did tabacco who vape, some of the younger one tell me they do it cause "it's cool"

I never encourage anyone to even try vaping apart from long term smokers who just cannot quit so easily, but want to. Youngsters vaping is what gives it the bad name, but then they also drink alcohol and do hard drugs when they feel like it - but vaping takes all the flak. It's mesmerizingly ironic that something that is saving so many lives gets more bad press these days than stuff that can actually kill you. Makes you wonder who's behind all the scare mongering ... actually I don't wonder, I know! Big Pharma and Big Tobacco.
 
When I try and mix a double / triple etc flavour it always seems to go tits up :D

I do occasionally buy ready made from HERE and put a few drops of menthol in as well.
Always worth a shot ( :D ) at a quid each, and rapid delivery too.
Not sure if they ship over there though.


It does seem to be a bit of a fashion statement among the hipsters.

Says they deliver to 50 countries WW, they would be perfect for the pods. I could mix up my own simple flavors for that, I have done, but I like to mix usually in 100ml bottle and making up that much for pods would last months :D Whereas I mat as well be drinking it in the sub ohm tanks. That is where DIY is great, I can make 100mm of decent liquid for less than a fiver - all in
 
I know! Town is full of (what I'm guessing are) sub ohmers chuffing like the Orient Express with an assortment of tantalising smells. Unfortunately, some of them also drive with the car so vapey that I'm stuffed if I know how they can see out. Just can't bring myself to coughing up for even a basic set up to see if a) I like it and b) it helps me lose some weight!
 
...with the car so vapey that I'm stuffed if I know how they can see out.
At my last job, a load of vapers went out for a break during heavy rain, and all piled into one of their cars to stay dry.
The office across the road called the fire brigade 'cos they thought the car was on fire.
 
some of them also drive with the car so vapey that I'm stuffed if I know how they can see out.
There's a few like that, that I see on my daily "commute" even I think WTF!
 
Once people are well and truly hooked it will be taxed, government need to make up all the lost revenue from tobacco.
 
Once people are well and truly hooked it will be taxed, government need to make up all the lost revenue from tobacco.
They are trying to ban it ( I wonder why? ;) )
According to recent figures I heard on a news item it seems that around 15% of all people over 18 smoke.
Which has been dropping steadily over the last few years.
Almost 80% of Cigarretes price is tax one way or another.
And at a min of £8 / pack, ( up to 12 / 14 quid for the more expensive brands) that's a few quid they are losing.
 
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They are trying to ban it ( I wonder why? ;) )
According to recent figures I heard on a new item it seems that around 15% of all people over 18 smoke.
Which has been dropping steadily over the last few years.
Almost 80% of Cigarretes price is tax one way or another.
And at a min of £8 / pack, ( up to 12 / 14 quid for the more expensive brands) that's a few quid they are losing.

Tax vaping and the sex trade, could knock a few bob off the standard rate or more likely off the top rate
 
Tax vaping and the sex trade,
Ones legal ( at the moment at least ) the other is illegal, They'd need to make it legal first,
And they can't even agree on cannabis :D
 
And not to start another argument, there is about 60p / L tax on fuel ( just under 50%)
 
Ones legal ( at the moment at least ) the other is illegal, They'd need to make it legal first,
And they can't even agree on cannabis :D

Can't see why they haven't made it legal, make it safer for those working within it and get tax too
 
Ebay make the rules up as they go along , I have some 1960s smut , as tame as it could possibly be , topless and underwear , even pubic hair has been airbrushed out

I used "sell one like this" to fill out most of the listings from one that had been for sale for weeks , mine wasn't on a day before they were pulled ,Adult item removed

I contacted customer services to ask why and I got some BS about only 4 magazines are allowed,(playboy, playgirl,penthouse and mayfair) despite their being 100s of others listed so I asked a specific question, why has exactly the same magazine been listed for a month or more

do you want to report an item
No I just want to know why item number xxxxxxxxxx is still listed but mine has been removed
You can rest assured that we will be taking action against anyone breaching this policy
I re listed it removing all reference to what it was apart form 1960s magazine, removed the same day but the other one is still there over a week later.
 
Ebay make the rules up as they go along ,
It certainly looks like it, doesn't it?
I re listed it removing all reference to what it was apart form 1960s magazine, removed the same day but the other one is still there over a week later.
They seem to "watch" people once something has been reported.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a "competitor" that reported it / you TBH :(
 
Probably

I spent 20 minutes on online chat asking why mine were removed when multiple listings exist

I have gone through the note and I understand your concern regarding the removal of your listing when there are other similar items listed on the site.

yes that's correct

Please allow me 2 minutes to review the details of the removed listing.

I have reviewed the details of the removed listing Let me assure you that an appropriate action was taken on the listing and an action will be taken on other similar listings as well.

So I can't sell these magazines on ebay even though they're far less explicit than the magazines you do allow

please realise that we are not subject matter experts in deciding whether the content is explicit or not. Earlier, we didn't allow such items on the site. We decided to allow such items only on the basis of the feedback and recommendations received from the community members. As of now, the exception is limited to 4 magazines only provided there is no nudity visible in the images.

How would I go about getting this type of magazine allowed as per your comment about feedback and recommendations from community members, thanks

Darren, as of now, the policy is limited to Playboy, Playgirl, Penthouse and Mayfair magazines only. If any recommendations are required to update the policy in the future, we will surely reach out to our members.

At this point I realised I was banging my head against a wall
 
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I know! Town is full of (what I'm guessing are) sub ohmers chuffing like the Orient Express with an assortment of tantalising smells. Unfortunately, some of them also drive with the car so vapey that I'm stuffed if I know how they can see out. Just can't bring myself to coughing up for even a basic set up to see if a) I like it and b) it helps me lose some weight!

Vaping while driving should be illegal just the same as using a phone, it's a distraction. Also you can get vape devices that do not produce giant fluffy clouds as we mentioned earlier. What you want is a mouth to lung system, mostly in pod form these days without getting too complicated. A wee whisper of vape is all that's produced, much less than you'd see from a puff of a cigarette.

Vaping is already taxed, they put restrictions in place and upped the prices ages back in the tpd.

Some people just like to moan and nay say anything they don't get or like. What p***es me off most is that it's mostly smokers I find that s*** talk vaping. Because they don't want to know about anything that could help them actually quit.
 
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Vaping is no more distracting than smoking - perhaps even less so it's just the (avoidable) fog that some people produce that becomes a problem.
 
Vaping is no more distracting than smoking - perhaps even less so it's just the (avoidable) fog that some people produce that becomes a problem.

Not distracting, but downright dangerous when they have the tank device in one hand and driving with only the other.
Some of the tank devices are quite large, not sure though if that's the steam version or not
Fag hung in the mouth or between fingers on a hand still gripping the wheel, only taken off to have a drag
 
I really don't understand why these vape things need to produce clouds of whatever ?
Surely there must be another way of doing, perhaps some sort of spray directly in to the mouth
when they breathe in or is it just that all that fog makes it feel like a cigarette ?to get in or out
I am an ex smoker, and I don't mind the aroma of cigarette smoke, but some of the stench coming from
these vape things is just awful, they seem to hang around shop doors so you have to go through it.
 
Not distracting, but downright dangerous when they have the tank device in one hand and driving with only the other.
Some of the tank devices are quite large, not sure though if that's the steam version or not
Fag hung in the mouth or between fingers on a hand still gripping the wheel, only taken off to have a drag

You know that's nonsense right? A fag hanging out of your mouth will see smoke waft straight into your eyes and that time you take your hands off the wheel to tip off the ash is every bit as dangerous as someone having a quick vape.

I've never seen anyone cloud out a car as much as you lot make out with a vape. But even still, BOTH smoking and vaping should be illegal while driving, just the same as stuffing your gob with a breakfast roll or having a chat on your phone whilst driving is.

I really don't understand why these vape things need to produce clouds of whatever ?
Surely there must be another way of doing, perhaps some sort of spray directly in to the mouth
when they breathe in or is it just that all that fog makes it feel like a cigarette ?to get in or out
I am an ex smoker, and I don't mind the aroma of cigarette smoke, but some of the stench coming from
these vape things is just awful, they seem to hang around shop doors so you have to go through it.

It's the smokers hang out in the shop doorways I find, and the smell is far from sweet. Take comfort at least in the fact that passive vape is 100% harmless, and that has been proven. There's nothing in that vapour but vegetable glycerin and flavoring [pretty much same as you'll find in cakes] Meanwhile that lovely tobacco aroma from smokers is harmful, very harmful.

I don't speak for all vapers, already said earlier I save the cloudier stuff for the comfort of my home. But it gets ridiculous when people are preferring others to smoke over vape. I wish my mother had switched to vaping when I did, she might still be here ... it was a blood clot dart to her heart caused by smoking that done her in 3 years ago. I honestly believe if she'd listened to me at the time, 7 years back, and gave it a shot and succeeded, it could have saved her.

Btw, i've tried every other option, sprays, gum, patches [I was still lighting up throughout trying all of these products] - meanwhile I kicked the smokes the first time I tried an e-cig, and I've done enough research to reassure me that vaping is no more harmful than nicotine gum or patches. In fact it's bang on the same level. The visual of plumes of vape gets people all hyped up, nothing more. If it was invisible nobody would be complaining I think. And as we mentioned earlier, you can vape with barely any output with the right kit. Not every vaper is a snap-back wearing, tattooed vape 'trickster' :D some of us really do vape because smoking was killing us.
 
I really don't understand why these vape things need to produce clouds of whatever ?
They don't it its all in the mix and the "power" of the vape mod.
TBH I don't think that "cloud chasing" as its called, is quite as "Cool" or fashionable as it used to be.

My "Day to day" Vape, produces roughly the same amount of so called smoke, [vapour] as a cigarette.


Not every vaper is a snap-back wearing, tattooed vape 'trickster' :D
:LOL:
 
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You know that's nonsense right? A fag hanging out of your mouth will see smoke waft straight into your eyes and that time you take your hands off the wheel to tip off the ash is every bit as dangerous as someone having a quick vape.

I've never seen anyone cloud out a car as much as you lot make out with a vape. But even still, BOTH smoking and vaping should be illegal while driving, just the same as stuffing your gob with a breakfast roll or having a chat on your phone whilst driving is.

Ok i'll give you the smoke in the eyes bit, but you do see people holding the tank thing which fully takes up one hand.
I saw someone eating from a bowl of cereal on their lap on a busy dual carriageway, definitely not good
 
It's the smokers hang out in the shop doorways I find, and the smell is far from sweet. Take comfort at least in the fact that passive vape is 100% harmless, and that has been proven. There's nothing in that vapour but vegetable glycerin and flavoring [pretty much same as you'll find in cakes] Meanwhile that lovely tobacco aroma from smokers is harmful, very harmful.

Don't see that many actual cigarette smokers hanging about in shop doorways, they seem to know that people prefer an odoiut free entrance

I don't really care that the stink is harmless I still don't want to be subjected to it when I try to get in a shop, join the other smokers and move away from the entrance
 
They don't it its all in the mix and the "power" of the vape mod.
TBH I don't think that "cloud chasing" as its called, is quite as "Cool" or fashionable as it used to be.

My "Day to day" Vape, produces roughly the same amount of so called smoke, [vapour] as a cigarette.

Thank goodness for that, although some still seem to think it's cool :rolleyes:
 
I still don't want to be subjected to it when I try to get in a shop,
Agreed. either as a smoker or a vaper I didn't / don't like walking through "it" either.
 
BOTH smoking and vaping should be illegal while driving, just the same as stuffing your gob with a breakfast roll or having a chat on your phone whilst driving is.


Being on your phone is illegal but eating (or drinking) while driving isn't, although if it causes an accident, it can be taken into account as contributing.
 
Being on your phone is illegal but eating (or drinking) while driving isn't, although if it causes an accident, it can be taken into account as contributing.

It should be, I think it might even be over here, I know people get stopped for it, or anything that can cause a driver to be distracted.

Don't see that many actual cigarette smokers hanging about in shop doorways, they seem to know that people prefer an odoiut free entrance

I don't really care that the stink is harmless I still don't want to be subjected to it when I try to get in a shop, join the other smokers and move away from the entrance

I see many more smokers than vapers in these doorways, in fact, I rarely see anyone vaping when I'm out and about. Maybe it's more a city thing? I'm in a small town. I don't want to have to walk through either but I know which I'd rather.


Ok i'll give you the smoke in the eyes bit, but you do see people holding the tank thing which fully takes up one hand.
I saw someone eating from a bowl of cereal on their lap on a busy dual carriageway, definitely not good

I'm not disagreeing that vaping is a no no while driving, I'm all for it being banned.

I've seen people with a full breakfast roll and coffee while moving along in traffic too, felt like knocking their window and asking what they were having for dessert

I'm going to actually count the vapers a see after work when I head over to town for my own curiosity. Because thinking on it I rarely see any around here in public.
 
but eating (or drinking) while driving isn't,
This was quite a few years ago, but don't you just love that last line? :D
A woman stopped by police for holding an apple while driving was fined £60 yesterday in a case that had involved 10 court appearances.
Sarah McCaffery, 23, a nursery nurse from Hebburn, South Tyneside, had not taken a bite out of the apple but was holding the fruit in her right hand as she negotiated a left-hand turn on 4 December 2003.

She was stopped by PC Lee Butler, who issued her with a £30 fine as part of a Northumbria Police drive against food or drink at the wheel.
The incident led to the dispatching of a police helicopter in order to take aerial photographs and videos, as well as nine preliminary hearings.




 
Not saying it's either a good thing or advisable but it is currently legal.
Well someone got nicked "Illegally" then ;)
 
Not one vaper sighting on my walk through town and stop off at Tesco where 4 smokers were puffing away by the entrance.

In saying that, we need to stop trying to make like they're different species - 'Most' vapers are ex-smokers, if they weren't doing one they would be doing the other in the same places.
 
Well FFS!
I was waiting on some PG & VG it arrived in a Royal mail bag, "sorry your item" etc ... well that is the empty box did!
 
Well FFS!
I was waiting on some PG & VG it arrived in a Royal mail bag, "sorry your item" etc ... well that is the empty box did!

You got an empty box? someone removed the items or...?
 
Yep empty box ripped open at the top and sealed in one of those royal mail bags apologising for the condition of the "package"

Its not the first time this has happened ( but not recently) as the Christmas season approaches ;)
Getting a refund or a replacement no doubt will be a real pita. As the RM contract is with the sender not the receiver.
Although at one time they were a bit cheaper than Amazon, there is very little in it now. And as Ebay is becoming a liability, ( doubt this was their fault, but who knows for sure ;) )
It looks like I'll be sticking to Amazon in the future.
 
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Yep empty box ripped open at the top and sealed in one of those royal mail bags apologising for the condition of the "package"

Its not the first time this has happened ( but not recently) as the Christmas season approaches ;)
Getting a refund or a replacement no doubt will be a real pita. As the RM contract is with the sender not the receiver.
Although at one time they were a bit cheaper than Amazon, there is very little in it now. And as Ebay is becoming a liability, ( doubt this was their fault, but who knows for sure ;) )
It looks like I'll be sticking to Amazon in the future.

Check out Darkstar UK - I get all my VG and most of my flavorings there. Very decent prices, use 'SUPERCODE' to get a good discount on TFA or Dark Arts flavorings [doesn't count for other brands or your PG/VG but those are decent prices too] - I order from Ireland and been doing so a few year now. Costs me £10 postage but it still ends up worth it toward prices here.
 
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