Nikon mirrorless definitely on the way

A person called Kurgo in reply to that article on DPReviw in the comments.

And MikeRan in the comments too.

I think to take notice of comments made by people who probably haven't even seen the camera let alone use it and put to put more 'bias' on their thoughts would seem strange?

If you're going to imply someone is talking "utter b****x" don't expect a pat on the back. Quote my original point rather than whatever you think it might have been but to address your point I think it's a vanishingly small market who'd want a lighter D850 that doesn't perform as well at the same price.



True enough but this is presumably just as big of a problem for the Z6 which people would expect to handle action well. Even so, given the choice would you pick the Z7 over a D850? I wouldn't, I'd want the more reliable AF and better battery life, the new lens designs will be a pull factor for the Z series but that's years away. Hard to be sure what the majority wants, they probably wouldn't buy a D850 or Z7 but going back to my earlier point, image quality is excellent for all the cameras in this bracket isn't it?

There's a lot of assumption on the AF performance being made though, it would be nice for a final review to confirm how consistent and accurate it actually is.

The battery life in 'real world shooting' was found to be fine (lasts a full day and 1000+ images), I think most people would carry a spare anyway - it is a 'common' Nikon battery.

I think your final point Simon in that we should wait for a full production review is sensible - we are judging certain aspects of the camera before it is Officially released, however their conclusion still stands in that they did find it the best Nikon to date. (That's a serious point to make when you look at the great cameras Nikon has produced in it's history).

Image quality is great for cameras in this price range but maybe this camera is a step ahead of the competition - again we don't know really but the initial impressions seem to be that everyone loves it.
 
I've thought about it ----- I hope both those cards weren't in the same camera :p

I wouldn't dismiss it - I'm not that kind of guy. There are reasons cards fail - normally: cheap, not formatted in camera, poorly stored, poorly handled (I'm not suggesting you've fallen into any of those categories) and loads more :)

Mine are genuine sandisk extreme pro. When not in camera they're stored in a waterproof pelican card case. Always formatted in camera.

I've had 3 card failures.
 
Mine are genuine sandisk extreme pro. When not in camera they're stored in a waterproof pelican card case. Always formatted in camera.

I've had 3 card failures.

Two cards in the same body doesn't really offer full 'redundancy' though- why is no one considering the option I gave?
 
Uh oh.....

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/...ons-thinking-and-how-will-the-z-system-evolve

Digital Camera World:
There's a battery grip, is that right?

Tim Carter:
It's not a grip, it's a battery pack.

Digital Camera World:
So it doesn't feature a portrait format shutter button?

Tim Carter:
No. I don't have a huge amount of details. Basically we're just announcing that we will be developing a battery pack. It will take two batteries, and boost therefore the battery life of the product.

Digital Camera World: The choice of memory, is really interesting. But first thing, let's get it out the way, why only one memory card slot?

Time Carter: It's about speed and space. So we had to have an XQD slot in our opinion, because of the amount of data and the write speed. So it had to be XQD because everything else isn't fast enough.

And there's just not enough room to fit two in, in terms of our compact design that we've made. So we had to make the decision just to go with one card slot. So rather than compromise on the speed of the card and throttle the camera, we went with the higher speed card, but only one slot.

The performance of XQD far outweighs anything else. And we're going to bundle an XQD card in the camera for the first few months of sales as well. Just to help people switch.


What a crock! The latest SD cards are more than good enough to keep up, even for extended 4K video recording. I know older cards can act up, I had to replace mine when I got the G80 - only for the 4K though, my older U-1 cards were struggling even for short clips, but the U-3 cards i replaced them with have had zero issues, and there's better and faster cards now than those [think mine are only 95/mbs] - I would lay a bet that most potential buyers would have much preferred dual SD slots over this XQD, even if you get one for free [I wonder how many they're giving out?]
 
I think to take notice of comments made by people who probably haven't even seen the camera let alone use it and put to put more 'bias' on their thoughts would seem strange?
I highlighted the quotes I did because they were the most popular of a lot of people with similar feelings. In the grand scheme of things hardly anyone has used these cameras so peoples concerns matter, and their concerns will be addressed when people test and use them and any issue they believe there may be will either be disproved or not.
The battery life in 'real world shooting' was found to be fine (lasts a full day and 1000+ images), I think most people would carry a spare anyway - it is a 'common' Nikon battery.

I think your final point Simon in that we should wait for a full production review is sensible - we are judging certain aspects of the camera before it is Officially released, however their conclusion still stands in that they did find it the best Nikon to date. (That's a serious point to make when you look at the great cameras Nikon has produced in it's history).

Image quality is great for cameras in this price range but maybe this camera is a step ahead of the competition - again we don't know really but the initial impressions seem to be that everyone loves it.
There has to be some way for the battery life to be measured, and the CIPA ratings seem to be it, now if people always appear to get above what they test by similar amounts then that at least is a baseline to start from. But, giving the CIPA rating as worst case scenario, as long as all the batteries from all the manufacturers are tested the same way, it gives the consumer more information to add to to make an informed choice on any purchases. More testing, reviews and user experiences will determine how the battery's perform in real life. I didn't hear any problems with the D500 batteries from initial previews/hands in articles, especially at the press events, but there were a lot of problems with users.

Btw, simply saying carry another battery sounds so easy doesn't it. This is a new battery for these cameras, the EN-EL15b, will they be readily available at launch? I don't know and neither do you. New batteries generally cost more than the ones they replace and are scarce at first, and there are obviously no third party options from the start. "But you can use the older version of the batteries in these cameras you may say!" Yes you can, but unless you already have older versions on these batteries are you going to go and buy older versions. I would say no to this because the original EN-EL15 battery will probably not show full power and/or run out quicker in these cameras as they do in the D500. The EN-EL15a will not be able to be charged via USB so why pay for batteries you may be able to use the full functionality of the camera, battery, USB relationship as time goes on. If you did that could cause problems down the line if a battery runs out and it is not the version which can be charged via USB.

Two cards in the same body doesn't really offer full 'redundancy' though- why is no one considering the option I gave?
There are many ways to put redundancy into a system/workflow, and we have seen some from the reasonable to the absurd over the last few days, but the fact is they have chosen not to implement a level of redundancy which they offer in some of their mid > top of their range DSLR's is confusing. :confused: Have XQD cards suddenly become more reliable, because the users who buy their D5, many of whom may truly need to rely on the redundancy of two cards, must be told to stop doing it as the only need to use one of their two XQD slots. :rolleyes: Btw, do you think a D6, should it appear, would have one card slot? I would bet money that it will have two, should it appear.

And I would think that if a mirrorless version of the D5, a rival to the Sony a9, were to appear that may have two card slots too. That is of course unless the message of only needing one XQD/CFEpress card gets through to the current D5 users. :rolleyes:
 
That DPReview article is confusing, as it doesn't cover the AF shortcomings detailed in their other multi-faceted reviews. That last sentence, re the Z7 being the most well rounded camera Nikon has ever produced, is not supported by their own other comments and it's just daft to suggest that the Z7 is a more complete camera than the D850.

I posted this reference a couple of days ago re AF performance, from DPReview's First Impressions article. They've done other articles including test sequences of moving subjects that don't look great. Scroll down to the section Performance: AF-C. This ties in with the Northrup's AF experience, though DPReview had the cameras a couple of days ahead of the launch and were able to use them in good daylight.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z7-first-impressions-review/5

Also, check the video link below from DPReview, at 8:20. If you run through that section frame by frame, you'll see the tracking AF is persistently, if slightly, back-focused, increasingly so as the runner gets closer to the camera. That's a good test, but it's like the system can't quite keep up whereas any high-end DSLR would nail it 100%, as would the latest Sony mirrorless cameras. Elsewhere on DPReview, there are examples of the video AF being smooth and accurate, but in lower light it's just laggy and doesn't shift fast enough.
https://www.dpreview.com/videos/9606592454/dpreview-tv-nikon-z-7-hands-on-first-impressions
 
It's all guess work at the moment (apart from the single memory card slot). So just relax and wait until the cameras are out for review. All this ranting, could be meaningless, if they manage to fix a lot of perceived issues with a firmware update.

Once out, in the real world, if there are issues then fire away :D
Lol,in other words Don’t Panic :D
 
Two cards in the same body doesn't really offer full 'redundancy' though- why is no one considering the option I gave?
What is the other option?

Sorry for asking repeat, this thread is moving faster than i can keep up with it. Feel free to link me back to your previous comment
 
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What is the other option?

Sorry for asking repeat, this thread is moving faster than i can keep up with it. Feel free to link me back to your previous comment

No probs,

On my D4 I wireless tether to a computer and it works extremely well with just a button press on the camera body to activate the network. The Z series has built in WiFi unlike the D4 and could be tethered to a Wireless SSD drive like this you can just keep it in your camera bag or pocket whilst shooting - it gives the advantage of the back-up being outside of the camera body:

https://www.wdc.com/en-gb/products/...ro:western_digital_my_passport_wireless:exact

It also means as soon as you get home it will automatically link to your home network and save you downloading images from your card/camera offering a fast workflow.

From the WD instructions:

Using a Compatible Wireless Camera File Transfer Protocol (FTP) enables the transfer of content to and from your drive’s Public folder through FTP. The drive supports default Anonymous login and takes advantage of Wi-Fi security for protection. The My Passport Wireless Pro/My Passport Wireless SSD drive is compatible with wireless cameras that support FTP, such as Nikon WT-2 and Canon WFT. See Knowledge Base Answer IDs 20556 and 11737 for information on compatible cameras. FTP is disabled by default
 
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Most native Z-mount lenses will not be any smaller than the equivalent DSLR lens plus adapter. The reduction in body depth (flange distance) with mirrorless only delivers a shorter lens with focal lengths under 40mm or so. And that's only in theory - in practise, it doesn't usually turn out that way.

The size and weight benefits of mirrorless are basically a myth. It's much more to do with sensor size and some manufacturers, eg Olympus, trying hard to make everything as small as they possibly can.

You're far better on the technical aspect than I Richard but all I'm seeing is that Sony can and have made smaller lenses optimised for their system so I assume when Nikon do make native mount 2.8 zooms there is no reason why they might not reduce overall size if they choose to. If nothing else, they may not need VR gubbins in the lenses. I just couldn't really see the relevance of what adapted lenses look like vs native lenses on another system. Maybe of marginal relevance to early adopters but I doubt many who shoot big 2.8 lenses are chasing the last mm of size reduction.
 
Digital Camera World: The choice of memory, is really interesting. But first thing, let's get it out the way, why only one memory card slot?

Time Carter: It's about speed and space. So we had to have an XQD slot in our opinion, because of the amount of data and the write speed. So it had to be XQD because everything else isn't fast enough.

And there's just not enough room to fit two in, in terms of our compact design that we've made. So we had to make the decision just to go with one card slot. So rather than compromise on the speed of the card and throttle the camera, we went with the higher speed card, but only one slot.

The performance of XQD far outweighs anything else. And we're going to bundle an XQD card in the camera for the first few months of sales as well. Just to help people switch.


What a crock! The latest SD cards are more than good enough to keep up, even for extended 4K video recording. I know older cards can act up, I had to replace mine when I got the G80 - only for the 4K though, my older U-1 cards were struggling even for short clips, but the U-3 cards i replaced them with have had zero issues, and there's better and faster cards now than those [think mine are only 95/mbs] - I would lay a bet that most potential buyers would have much preferred dual SD slots over this XQD, even if you get one for free [I wonder how many they're giving out?]
I’m not so sure it’s a crock tbh, the fastest UHS-II cards at the mo are ‘only’ 75% as fast as the top XQD. Granted I don’t know what the capability of either is but it’s possible that XQD (and CFexpress) might have the capability to go much faster. With res and buffer steadily increasing perhaps they’re future proofing? I know to get the max buffer out of my D850 I need the 440/400mb/s XQD, anything else and the buffer drops.
 
No probs,

On my D4 I wireless tether to a computer and it works extremely well with just a button press on the camera body to activate the network. The Z series has built in WiFi unlike the D4 and could be tethered to a Wireless SSD drive like this you can just keep it in your camera bag or pocket whilst shooting - it gives the advantage of the back-up being outside of the camera body:

https://www.wdc.com/en-gb/products/...ro:western_digital_my_passport_wireless:exact

It also means as soon as you get home it will link to your home network and save you downloading images from your card/camera offering a fast workflow.

From the WD instructions:

Using a Compatible Wireless Camera File Transfer Protocol (FTP) enables the transfer of content to and from your drive’s Public folder through FTP. The drive supports default Anonymous login and takes advantage of Wi-Fi security for protection. The My Passport Wireless Pro/My Passport Wireless SSD drive is compatible with wireless cameras that support FTP, such as Nikon WT-2 and Canon WFT. See Knowledge Base Answer IDs 20556 and 11737 for information on compatible cameras. FTP is disabled by default

That's a very nice option for sure but one issue I see doing this with Nikon Z is that it's severely affect the already low battery life. Of course you can carry spare batteries, power bank etc but not sure professionally would want that. Sony got slated for terrible battery life till they fixed it and I imagine so will Nikon.
 
That's a very nice option for sure but one issue I see doing this with Nikon Z is that it's severely affect the already low battery life. Of course you can carry spare batteries, power bank etc but not sure professionally would want that. Sony got slated for terrible battery life till they fixed it and I imagine so will Nikon.

Every 'real world' test is stating battery life is better than expected with DP Review stating it was fine for a whole days shooting. (1000+ images) I personally think a back up battery is more important than a second card slot but we all have priorities it's just i have suffered more battery failures than card failures (none to date)
 
I’m not so sure it’s a crock tbh, the fastest UHS-II cards at the mo are ‘only’ 75% as fast as the top XQD. Granted I don’t know what the capability of either is but it’s possible that XQD (and CFexpress) might have the capability to go much faster. With res and buffer steadily increasing perhaps they’re future proofing? I know to get the max buffer out of my D850 I need the 440/400mb/s XQD, anything else and the buffer drops.

It is not possible to make one card slot that takes in both XQD and SD card?

One free XQD is great, really is but it won't be enough to replace my 4 UHS-II cards.
Though I am glad more than Sony now produce these.
 
It is not possible to make one card slot that takes in both XQD and SD card?

One free XQD is great, really is but it won't be enough to replace my 4 UHS-II cards.
Though I am glad more than Sony now produce these.

If you have different format card slots and you use one card slot as an identical back up the buffer will only empty as quickly as the slowest card; therefore by incorporating XQD and SD you would be 'throttling' the cameras speed.

XQD really is fantastic!
 
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Every 'real world' test is stating battery life is better than expected with DP Review stating it was fine for a whole days shooting. (1000+ images) I personally think a back up battery is more important than a second card slot but we all have priorities it's just i have suffered more battery failures than card failures (none to date)

There were plenty of 'real world' tests that said sony was capable of lot more photos than stated in the specs. It still got criticised for it.

Don't get me wrong I am all for reusing batteries to keep things compatible between cameras and single card slot doesnt bother me. But these were the things that always got mentioned against Sony, why do Nikon want the same criticisms...

Of course Nikon may know it's customer base better than us and these may not matter to them. Forum folk is hardly a good representation of the actual market and real world users. People off forums are generally more negative or critical, that's why they come here otherwise they'd be happily shooting outside :P
 
Real time WiFi transfer from a camera to an external drive during a wedding.

Two things strike me:

1. Transfer speed
2. Instability of wifi

This seems a poor sub to having a physical card in the camera. How long would it take to WiFi across, say, 4000 raw files from camera to backup? Now I’m also having to worry about maintaining a WiFi link. The drive would also need to be powered yes? That’s additional size and weight.

Also the buffer in the Z7 seems pretty woeful anyway so I’m not convinced by the ‘we had to use XQD to stop it slowing down’. There’s much more to buffer speed than just the card as Sony show with the A9.
 
If you have different format card slots and you use one card slot as an identical back up the buffer will only empty as quickly as the slowest card; therefore by incorporating XQD and SD you would be 'throttling' the cameras speed.

Ah right, I get it now. Fair point.
Oh well would have been nice for people like me but I guess they decided against it.
 
Also the buffer in the Z7 seems pretty woeful anyway so I’m not convinced by the ‘we had to use XQD to stop it slowing down’. There’s much more to buffer speed than just the card as Sony show with the A9.

Yes but as mentioned above it was a design decision not to throttle speeds in camera. They wanted the to stick with one fastest possible speed.
I don't know why the buffer is so shallow though.
 
Real time WiFi transfer from a camera to an external drive during a wedding.

Two things strike me:

1. Transfer speed
2. Instability of wifi

This seems a poor sub to having a physical card in the camera. How long would it take to WiFi across, say, 4000 raw files from camera to backup? Now I’m also having to worry about maintaining a WiFi link. The drive would also need to be powered yes? That’s additional size and weight.

Also the buffer in the Z7 seems pretty woeful anyway so I’m not convinced by the ‘we had to use XQD to stop it slowing down’. There’s much more to buffer speed than just the card as Sony show with the A9.

Transfer speed really isn't an issue TBH, I use it fine in my little studio; does the speed of your back-up really matter, it's not like you have to wait for it before you capture another image and it being on all day means it will keep up. Never suffered WiFi instability over short ranges either - if it does drop out then when the network is reconnected the transfer continues.

This is a system that was used at press events to get images on to the 'editors desk' instantly.

Two cards in one camera body really isn't that safe a redundancy. (camera theft or malfunction).
 
I am guessing they thought it'd quickly clear and hence didn't need a deep buffer.

Besides don't get me started on Sony's buffer clearing speed. :P
 
Ok. Having a drive in your pocket rather than in the camera doesn’t guard against the camera failing.

Camera theft. Not a concern for me. I always have two on me through the wedding and they never leave me and are physically attached to me. So I’d have to be actually robbed in person.

I’ll stick with dual cards. It’s not let me down thus far.
 
Yes but as mentioned above it was a design decision not to throttle speeds in camera. They wanted the to stick with one fastest possible speed.
I don't know why the buffer is so shallow though.

Because the entire image chain dictates the speed. Sensor readout, bus speeds, processor power. The lot.

So by all means use XQD but make sure the rest of the image chain can support it.
 
It is not possible to make one card slot that takes in both XQD and SD card?

One free XQD is great, really is but it won't be enough to replace my 4 UHS-II cards.
Though I am glad more than Sony now produce these.
It is a pain buying new cards that's for sure, I only have two XQD cards and neither are the super duper fast ones. I still get 25 ish shot buffer 14 bit RAW though which is enough for me.

There were plenty of 'real world' tests that said sony was capable of lot more photos than stated in the specs. It still got criticised for it.


One thing that astonishes me from Sony is how big their buffers are using SD cards. Even the A7RIII with uncompressed 14 bit RAW can manage 28 shots, and those files are something like 90mb aren't they? :eek:
 
Ok. Having a drive in your pocket rather than in the camera doesn’t guard against the camera failing.

Camera theft. Not a concern for me. I always have two on me through the wedding and they never leave me and are physically attached to me. So I’d have to be actually robbed in person.

I’ll stick with dual cards. It’s not let me down thus far.

....................but a single card slot is also not the 'B all and end all' people like to think it is; to anyone purchasing this camera it probably doesn't bother them but to others there is a perfectly viable alternative.

4000 shots at one wedding!

Anyway, using this example that is one shot every ten seconds continuously for 8hrs - when I use the WiFi on the D4 (granted it's only 16mb) it can keep up with this.
 
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Uh oh.....

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/...ons-thinking-and-how-will-the-z-system-evolve

Digital Camera World:
There's a battery grip, is that right?

Tim Carter:
It's not a grip, it's a battery pack.

Digital Camera World:
So it doesn't feature a portrait format shutter button?

Tim Carter:
No. I don't have a huge amount of details. Basically we're just announcing that we will be developing a battery pack. It will take two batteries, and boost therefore the battery life of the product.
Forgot to mention, what I also found interesting in this article is the customisable AF speed. I'm not sure why you'd want to slow down AF speed, why would you want to speed it up and lose accuracy, and likewise why would you want to slow it down if you're getting 99% accuracy? However, I do wonder if this is what's been causing some fo the AF issues during the pre-release try outs?
 
FWIW the D750 buffer was always frustrating in real world use and something that had to be managed.

Lossless compressed RAW:

D750 buffer - 25 shots

Z6 buffer - 36 shots

Z7 - 23 shots

For reference, with Sony the A7III can manage 89 and the A9 241 shots. Using SD cards.
 
Forgot to mention, what I also found interesting in this article is the customisable AF speed. I'm not sure why you'd want to slow down AF speed, why would you want to speed it up and lose accuracy, and likewise why would you want to slow it down if you're getting 99% accuracy? However, I do wonder if this is what's been causing some fo the AF issues during the pre-release try outs?

A7 cameras have that in video mode.
 
It is a pain buying new cards that's for sure, I only have two XQD cards and neither are the super duper fast ones. I still get 25 ish shot buffer 14 bit RAW though which is enough for me.


One thing that astonishes me from Sony is how big their buffers are using SD cards. Even the A7RIII with uncompressed 14 bit RAW can manage 28 shots, and those files are something like 90mb aren't they? :eek:

Around 84-85mb but yeah close enough. Though as we discussed in the Sony thread for bursting 14bit RAW is seldom necessary in fact you probably will never need it. So it's better to shoot compressed RAW Sony or Nikon.

Sony does have a great buffer. But I am guessing Nikon is approaching it another way in that they seem to want to clear the buffer quickly and get away with a shallow buffer. I prefer this approach if it works fully.
 
....................but a single card slot is also not the 'B all and end all' people like to think it is; to anyone purchasing this camera it probably doesn't bother them but to others there is a perfectly viable alternative.

4000 shots at one wedding!

Anyway, using this example that is one shot every ten seconds continuously for 8hrs - when I use the WiFi on the D4 (granted it's only 16mb) it can keep up with this.

I'm not even a particularly high number shooter. Weekend before last were two 12 hour shoots. 4140 at the first and 3648 at the second. I know many wedding photographers shooting 7k+ frames a day.

So having to worry about another external device that needs power is a less ideal solution than a second card bearing in mind I'm in and out of cars, constantly running around like a maniac.

It's 'a' possible alternative agreed.
 
I'm not even a particularly high number shooter. Weekend before last were two 12 hour shoots. 4140 at the first and 3648 at the second. I know many wedding photographers shooting 7k+ frames a day.

So having to worry about another external device that needs power is a less ideal solution than a second card bearing in mind I'm in and out of cars, constantly running around like a maniac.

It's 'a' possible alternative agreed.

How on earth did I manage with 2x 36exp 35mm and 5x 120 15exp 6x4.5? (No buffer or write speed choke-points)
 
Having to manage a 25 shot buffer as a Wedding Tog - blimey! (i don't think your being very honest here just picking holes in the new camera for the sake of it)

Further to this the D750 doesn't use XQD unlike the Z series which writes much faster, a brief pause on the shutter button frees that buffer up very quickly. 36 shots at 45+MB it's darn good!

Really? That equates to 2.3 seconds. How long is a confetti run? Or a recessional? Or shooting through a great part of the couple session.

Please, PLEASE, don't start down that road.
 
A7 cameras have that in video mode.
Interesting, I don't shoot video so not sure why this would be useful?

Around 84-85mb but yeah close enough. Though as we discussed in the Sony thread for bursting 14bit RAW is seldom necessary in fact you probably will never need it. So it's better to shoot compressed RAW Sony or Nikon.

Sony does have a great buffer. But I am guessing Nikon is approaching it another way in that they seem to want to clear the buffer quickly and get away with a shallow buffer. I prefer this approach if it works fully.
Even with my 400mb/s read and 150mb/s write XQD's I'm 'only' getting circa 25 shots lossless compressed 14 bit (around 50mb files), so you have to use the 400mb/s write to get the max 53 buffer. With the Sony do you need the high speed UHS-II (ie 300mb/s write) cards to get the 28 shot buffer on the A7Riii?
 
FWIW the D750 buffer was always frustrating in real world use and something that had to be managed.

Lossless compressed RAW:

D750 buffer - 25 shots

Z6 buffer - 36 shots

Z7 - 23 shots

For reference, with Sony the A7III can manage 89 and the A9 241 shots. Using SD cards.
TBH even shooting sports I rarely ran into the buffer on the D750, but it was frustrating when I did, and was one of the reasons for upgrading to the D850. The D750 buffer isn't 25 shots in 14 bit lossless though, it's more 12 shots (y)
 
Calling BS on this; after 20 wedding shoots (half a year) their shutters are knackered and need replacing! 4000/day seems high, let alone 7000+

Call BS all you like. It's a fact.

And shutters fail early or late. I put 250k on both of my D750's and they're still going. You don't replace a shutter until it fails. I've seen people put 400k+ on them with no issues.
 
How on earth did I manage with 2x 36exp 35mm and 5x 120 15exp 6x4.5? (No buffer or write speed choke-points)

How did we managed living in caves and hunt with spears ?

Let's let go of our civilised world of Waitrose and electric cars and go back to riding buffalos bareback.

Are people here have something against progress or something?
 
Call BS all you like. It's a fact.

And shutters fail early or late. I put 250k on both of my D750's and they're still going. You don't replace a shutter until it fails. I've seen people put 400k+ on them with no issues.



I may be completely wrong but the thought of editing 7000+ images for every wedding! - god you can keep that profession!
 
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Interesting, I don't shoot video so not sure why this would be useful?

Even with my 400mb/s read and 150mb/s write XQD's I'm 'only' getting circa 25 shots lossless compressed 14 bit (around 50mb files), so you have to use the 400mb/s write to get the max 53 buffer. With the Sony do you need the high speed UHS-II (ie 300mb/s write) cards to get the 28 shot buffer on the A7Riii?
Sony does not even have lossless compression. I will imagine you'd need the highest speed ones. manufactures normally give figures in the best possible scenario when all the 8 planets and the sun have lined up. Eg: 9fps in Z7.
 
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