Nikon D800......

I dont want to cause another fuss, but has anyone owned both the d800 and 5dmk3 or switched from a canon 5dmk3.

I've had this urge to switch that I've tried to shake since before the d800 was released, but still Haven't been able to.
I know the d800 may be a better camera for rez and dr, but theres lens that i would love to own in the canon camp and i just seem to love the images i see from canon cameras.

I know many people say that there are visual differences and others that its just in post as raw is raw. But i think there must be a difference in the way there processed in camera through the software (even raw)and from the way the lens render the images. either that or all canon users edit with a very similar style.

It seems like canon colours are more muted, with less contrast and there looks to be film type grain. where as the new nikons especially are very sharp, vivid and contrasty.
has anyone used both and can coment on this?

Im still not sure i can give my d800 up though.
 
85l, 135l, 50l are the ones i would be buying if i did switch, and either the sigma or canon 35

the look i love may be possible in post or is due to post work, but i cant seem to nail it.

apart from that i really cant fault my d800 and what it does it does exceptionally well
 
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pmac said:
I dont want to cause another fuss, but has anyone owned both the d800 and 5dmk3 or switched from a canon 5dmk3.

I've had this urge to switch that I've tried to shake since before the d800 was released, but still Haven't been able to.
I know the d800 may be a better camera for rez and dr, but theres lens that i would love to own in the canon camp and i just seem to love the images i see from canon cameras.

I know many people say that there are visual differences and others that its just in post as raw is raw. But i think there must be a difference in the way there processed in camera through the software (even raw)and from the way the lens render the images. either that or all canon users edit with a very similar style.

It seems like canon colours are more muted, with less contrast and there looks to be film type grain. where as the new nikons especially are very sharp, vivid and contrasty.
has anyone used both and can coment on this?

Im still not sure i can give my d800 up though.
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I think going from a D800E to a Mark 3 Canon would be a step backwards for most people but if you love the Canon image look I guess go for it. Your lens choices though would not be enough for me to switch, the nikon equivalents in those lenses are far from the worst in their lineup and thats an understatement. The Nikon is by far the better imaging camera IMHO.
 
I had the D800 + 70-200 VR II and the 5D MK III + 70-200 IS II at the same time. Kept the D800 as I just liked the files and handling more. If I was into video or long lens primes I'd go back to Canon. I went all primes on the D800 and can't argue with the quality. I'd recommend to anyone stick one of the better (expensive) Zeiss primes on the D800 and you won't be disappointed.
 
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I had the D800 + 70-200 VR II and the 5D MK III + 70-200 IS II at the same time. Kept the D800 as I just liked the files and handling more. If I was into video or long lens primes I'd go back to Canon. I went all primes on the D800 and can't argue with the quality. I'd recommend to anyone stick one of the better (expensive) Zeiss primes on the D800 and you won't be disappointed.
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I thought on a Zeiss in the past. And may well look again. After selling my 24-70 I too now have all primes. 35, 85 and 150. I've been pondering over a wide, and tele. Possibles, the Zeiss 15, and Nikon 300 f4. I think that would be fine as I would only use a lens like that outdoor. The wide end though, was kind of waiting on sigma or one of the others to come up with an "art" wide that would be a nicer price. Plus the Zeiss range are all manual. Would I miss Af on an ultra wide?
 
Hi pmac

I have recently sold my Canon 5D3 to get a Nikon D800e.

OOI, I have owned the 50L, 85L and 135L lenses as well.

I think the 5D3 is just a really well sorted-out body with great DR, AF, ergonomics etc.....

However, I think the D800e does everything just about as well and I am happy to have the extra pixels offered by the Nikon.

Bottom line is that they are similarly great bodies IMHO.

To respond to the comment above about long lenses. I have just swopped my Canon 500f4ISL for a Nikon 500f4 VR and TBH both are top drawer lenses and the Nikon is a LOT cheaper so I would not go back to Canon for the long glass offerings.
 
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Thats good to hear gary. can I ask what you normal shoot? And was the extra DR and MP what made you change or was there other reasons.

From what I can find it seems to be 90% landscape shooters that have made the switch over for the D800, I myself am more into portrait/street shooting.
 
Hi pmac

I moved over initially since I was REALLY unhappy with the Canon crop body offerings so initially settled on a D7100.

I like to have both crop and FF bodies since it doubles-up the effective FL of all my lenses so the natural body to go for was the D800/800e.

I shoot mainly wildlife plus some gigs so the decent high iso capability of D800e appealed. On that front I suspect the 5D3 has the edge I might add but it is a very close call and I have not done any side-by-side comparisons.

Importantly, the D800e plus x1.7TC plus 500f4 VR makes a VERY useful wildlife set-up with ENORMOUS cropability and ok AFability.
 
The D800 is my everyday camera, i shoot Rugby professionally but for that i grab a pair of D3's, the D800 is good for general everyday stuff but its not a "sports" camera, if im out for the day i take the D800
 
Gary Coyle said:
The D800 is my everyday camera, i shoot Rugby professionally but for that i grab a pair of D3's, the D800 is good for general everyday stuff but its not a "sports" camera, if im out for the day i take the D800
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+1 same here and for an amateur is more then i will ever need.
Coming from a D40
 
Jumped straight from a D90 here, found the transition pretty smooth. Bit of getting used to on the angle of view, feeling like I needed to get much closer to everything on FX - but you get used to it fast.
 
Cagey75 said:
I thought on a Zeiss in the past. And may well look again. After selling my 24-70 I too now have all primes. 35, 85 and 150. I've been pondering over a wide, and tele. Possibles, the Zeiss 15, and Nikon 300 f4. I think that would be fine as I would only use a lens like that outdoor. The wide end though, was kind of waiting on sigma or one of the others to come up with an "art" wide that would be a nicer price. Plus the Zeiss range are all manual. Would I miss Af on an ultra wide?
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The Zeiss 15 is a serious bit of kit, expensive and not one I'd go for unless UWA was something I was very keen on. For a taste of Zeiss you can't go wrong with the 21, 25f/2, 50f/2, 100f/2 or the 135 f/2. Manual focus is really nice with the lenses, particularly for video as the action is so smooth.
 
21 sounds sweet, you're right in that 15 may be too wide for me. Will look into the 21
 
just back from the beach having my first proper try with a 10 stop filter.
Just edited a picture and noticed lots of hot pixels on a 2min exposure. I didn't have LE NR switched on. so that may have helped but looking online this seems quite common with the d800 .
Anyone else experienced this? and what can be done to remove them using only lightroom or the NIK add ons.

heres a 12mp version of the file.
DSC_3015 by pmac1985, on Flickr
 
pmac said:
just back from the beach having my first proper try with a 10 stop filter.
Just edited a picture and noticed lots of hot pixels on a 2min exposure. I didn't have LE NR switched on. so that may have helped but looking online this seems quite common with the d800 .
Anyone else experienced this? and what can be done to remove them using only lightroom or the NIK add ons.

heres a 12mp version of the file.http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmac1985/9161023543/
DSC_3015 by pmac1985, on Flickr
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Hmmm what are hot pixels?? Apologies for asking but I have heard this a few times and curious to find out..
 
A "hot pixel" is where a photosite (one of the millions of light collectors on the sensor) gives a slightly (or much!) brighter result than its neighbours. They can be a PITA if they appear in a group or in critical areas of an image but generally go all but unnoticed unless you pixel peep. Individual hot pixels often don't show up in prints or at normal screen resolutions and can generally be dealt with fairly easily in PP.
 
redhed17 said:
Have you considered opening files in PS as a Smart Objects? :shrug: It may give you more flexibility to go back and make changes to the RAW file, should you wish/need to.

Not a criticism, just wanting to understand why some people edit in certain ways. :)
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Too many opportunities for the link between files to be broken should I decide on a new filing strategy etc. Something to consider when you have an archive going back years. Plus... altering the RAW file can have adverse effects on all the processing that follows in PS if using a smart object. I've tried but it caused me more problems than not.
 
Nod said:
A "hot pixel" is where a photosite (one of the millions of light collectors on the sensor) gives a slightly (or much!) brighter result than its neighbours. They can be a PITA if they appear in a group or in critical areas of an image but generally go all but unnoticed unless you pixel peep. Individual hot pixels often don't show up in prints or at normal screen resolutions and can generally be dealt with fairly easily in PP.
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Thank you for that.
 
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Too many opportunities for the link between files to be broken should I decide on a new filing strategy etc. Something to consider when you have an archive going back years. Plus... altering the RAW file can have adverse effects on all the processing that follows in PS if using a smart object. I've tried but it caused me more problems than not.
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Thanks for the reply Pookeyhead. :thumbs:

I hadn't thought of that. :thinking: My system is pretty static, but I'll have to check whether keeping the RAW file with the PSD file would get around that problem. Fingers crossed. ;) I'm only just starting to use Smart Objects, and then for only certain situations. Great idea if one can keep it all connected. :lol:
 
You cant go wrong with the vr2.
I just dont use mine alot due to the size and weight.

Not sure if the sigma suffers it at all but you might want to look into the focus breathing..doesnt bother me, but does others.
 
Jumped from D90 to D800, the image quality is a amazing, its so nice to have FX finally as my lenses are all FX. The crop ability is amazing also.
 
355858 said:
Jumped from D90 to D800, the image quality is a amazing, its so nice to have FX finally as my lenses are all FX. The crop ability is amazing also.
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Yep.. I am hoping to do the same too.. sold my D300s and looking to get D800.. can't find many good deals on these at the moment..:bonk:
 
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pmac said in post 3545 that there are a lot D800s on offer at dropping prices - maybe he could point you to where he saw those?
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that was referring to used ones.. New ones are around £1930 at Amazon onwards.. I would assume that it is UK stock that they sell..
 
Apologies, I had misunderstood Raj, sorry for that.

Regarding Amazon - I ordered mine from Amazon.co.uk. It was sold by one of the Amazon marketplace companies, and it came with a German manual. No prob for me, but it may be a good idea to verify that it is UK stock, unless you speak a couple of foreign languages ;)
 
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Apologies, I had misunderstood Raj, sorry for that.

Regarding Amazon - I ordered mine from Amazon.co.uk. It was sold by one of the Amazon marketplace companies, and it came with a German manual. No prob for me, but it may be a good idea to verify that it is UK stock, unless you speak a couple of foreign languages ;)
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Thanks for that.. Ahh its not the training manual that I am concerned about... it is weather Nikon UK will honour any issue like focus problems etc..
 
I've purchased things in one country and requested warranty in another, and it was no problem. You'd be claiming warranty in the country where you purchased, and you'd get an invoice from a UK dealer or Amazon - I don't think that would be a problem. Maybe ask Amazon if the invoice will come from them - if yes, I think it should be safe to buy.

I've read that some companies give you the warranty applicable in the country the product comes from. So if you'd indeed get a camera for example sold originally in Germany, you'd get German warranty. That is 2 years I think, so also not bad.

Of course, there's always a risk you run into someone who's trying to make things difficult. Safest thing is to buy from a local dealer you know is good and reliable...
 
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Ah cool, we're back posting pics :)

I mostly used my Fuji on the trip to Turkey last week, but did brave it and bring the D800E plus the 85mm, this was my fav of the bunch I took using that combination - siesta time in Kuşadası, not sure any of these liked me shooting them on their down time, but I like the intensity of the guy's stare.


Intense siesta, Kuşadası by Cagey75, on Flickr

Took this one of two shop owners having a game of backgammon during downtime, annoyed that I clipped the near guy's feet, should have noticed. I can use the excuse that I was pushing a wheelchair, complete with child in, at the time ;)


Siesta time backgammon by Cagey75, on Flickr

This one was at ISO 1250, f/2, 1/8000 - I found I was changing settings a lot because of the ever changing light along the streets. One minute it's dark/shade, the next you're blinded by intense sunshine. And I was after shallow DOF for these
 
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Looking to buy a D800 this week, just wondered what memory cards you guys bosh in them? Ta!

(Was looking at Sandisk Ultra's 64gig SDXC)
 
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I'm using.....

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..in the CF slot

and....

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...in the SD slot.

The SD is set to back up the CF.


No problems.

Unless you regularly fill the buffer... I found the extreme Pro to be an unnecessary expense.

As for downloading, the 60MB/sec CF Sandisk actually reads at over 80MB/sec over USB3.0. Kind of makes the point of the 90MB/sec card redundant.
 
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I have to admit to not using a CF card in the D800 yet - is there much difference?
 
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