Nikon D750 & D780

[anibap]

I'm trying to get used to the weight and size of the 24-70 and I appear to have fairly weak wrists!

Any tips to strengthen? I want to make sure I'm not getting blurry pics before the wedding!

You have few options

1. Improve handholding techniques below 1/x shutter speed where x is the fl. It is a heavy lens so do keep that in mind

2. Use higher shutter speed where you can without compromising IQ.

3. Use off camera flash while shooting wedding. Most pros use even in day time. This will significantly improve your keeper rates and also use hss

4.Buy a lens with stabilisation. There is a reason every manufacturer is making such lenses these days.

 

[anibap]

Anyone here replaced the standard focussing screen with a manual focussing screen?

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

You have few options

1. Improve handholding techniques below 1/x shutter speed where x is the fl. It is a heavy lens so do keep that in mind

2. Use higher shutter speed where you can without compromising IQ.

3. Use off camera flash while shooting wedding. Most pros use even in day time. This will significantly improve your keeper rates and also use hss

4.Buy a lens with stabilisation. There is a reason every manufacturer is making such lenses these days.

Not allowed flash during the ceremony though.

 

[JJ!]

Don't really fancy the 24-70 VC - the normal version id big and heavy enough!!

Will see how get on doing some testing over weekend - have a bunch of primes to play with too!

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

I'm trying to get used to the weight and size of the 24-70 and I appear to have fairly weak wrists!

Any tips to strengthen? I want to make sure I'm not getting blurry pics before the wedding!

I try to keep shutter speed high enough to eliminate blur from people moving, around 1/200 normally. Don't be afraid to push the ISO, clients don't give a crap about a bit of noise and no one other than a photographer pixel peeps, I'd go all the way up to 12800 if I needed it. (very occasionally do)

Auto ISO can come in handy if there are changing light conditions, just make sure you set your minimum shutter speed properly.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

I'm trying to get used to the weight and size of the 24-70 and I appear to have fairly weak wrists!

Any tips to strengthen? I want to make sure I'm not getting blurry pics before the wedding!

Get a wrist roller rope on a wood pole piece .tie weight on rope and role it up and down till you cant do it any more,failing that sell it to me lol

 

[minnnt]

I'm trying to get used to the weight and size of the 24-70 and I appear to have fairly weak wrists!

Any tips to strengthen? I want to make sure I'm not getting blurry pics before the wedding!

Sack the missus off, they'll soon strengthen up then.

 

[anibap]

Not allowed flash during the ceremony though.

Agree

 

[anibap]

A view from Piazza Tasso in Sorrento


Sorrento by Anirban Acharya, on Flickr

 

[T_J_G]

Lovely shot @anibap loved my time in Sorrento.

 

[anibap]

Nice shot Anirban. When I went a few years ago, this was one of my faves from the trip, but yours is much better.

Thanks Kris. I want to go back again and visit all the 5 towns of Amalfi coast and spend more time in Marina Grande

 

[JJ!]

I try to keep shutter speed high enough to eliminate blur from people moving, around 1/200 normally. Don't be afraid to push the ISO, clients don't give a crap about a bit of noise and no one other than a photographer pixel peeps, I'd go all the way up to 12800 if I needed it. (very occasionally do)

Auto ISO can come in handy if there are changing light conditions, just make sure you set your minimum shutter speed properly.

1/200 seems like a good shout as was using 1/125 with the 24-85 but that has VR.

Slightly worried at how high the ISO will need to be at 1/200 and f2.8 but will do some low light shooting and check out the results.

 

[anibap]

Lovely shot @anibap loved my time in Sorrento.

Thanks Tim, It is indeed an amazing place and the fun is to get lost in the streets and alleys and then get to the coast.

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

1/200 seems like a good shout as was using 1/125 with the 24-85 but that has VR.

Slightly worried at how high the ISO will need to be at 1/200 and f2.8 but will do some low light shooting and check out the results.

Depends how dark it is

You'll be fine, and don't judge the noise on 100% zoom in lightroom, process a file and export it and view it at a normal size on your browser. That's how people will look at the photo.

Use a bounced flash for the evening do if needed, maybe OFC for first dance.

 

[anibap]

1/200 seems like a good shout as was using 1/125 with the 24-85 but that has VR.

Slightly worried at how high the ISO will need to be at 1/200 and f2.8 but will do some low light shooting and check out the results.

You may check Neil van Niekerk's Tangent blog. He is one my gurus of photography and what I know today is lot of what I learnt from his blog. Neil shoots weddings and used the 24-70 a lot on his various Nikon bodies. he often goes to ISO 3200 and 6400 and when you look at his shots, you will not see what ISO rather the shot itself. He has recently replaced the 24-70 with the VR version.

 

[GHP]

Anyone recommend a decent close up magnification ext lens

I have a Canon 500D close up lens attachment.
It's the screw in type, and basically allows the lens to focus at 500mm when the lens is set to infinity.
It fits my 105mm macro lens, but I haven't had a proper go with it yet.
Hoping to do that this weekend.

 

[snerkler]

I'm trying to get used to the weight and size of the 24-70 and I appear to have fairly weak wrists!

Any tips to strengthen? I want to make sure I'm not getting blurry pics before the wedding!

Should've bought the 24-120mm f4

1/200 seems like a good shout as was using 1/125 with the 24-85 but that has VR.

Slightly worried at how high the ISO will need to be at 1/200 and f2.8 but will do some low light shooting and check out the results.

I'm surprised you need 1/125 with the 24-85mm, I would try and assess what is causing you to be so shaky. Try tucking your arms in and make sure you have a good stance so are not wobbling. ISO will be high in a dim church at 1/200 BUT we assess everything at 1:1. Print a 12800 out on a 6x4 or 7x5 print and you'll be surprised how good they look.

As for strengthening your wrists invest in a heavier lens, then when you go back to the 24-70mm it'll see a doddle Ok this is a bit tongue in cheek but there is some truth to it. I thought my 70-200mm f2.8 was quite heavy to use at first hand held, but since getting my 150-60mm and using that a lot going back to the 70-200mm almost feels lightweight

 

[JJ!]

Should've bought the 24-120mm f4


I'm surprised you need 1/125 with the 24-85mm, I would try and assess what is causing you to be so shaky. Try tucking your arms in and make sure you have a good stance so are not wobbling. ISO will be high in a dim church at 1/200 BUT we assess everything at 1:1. Print a 12800 out on a 6x4 or 7x5 print and you'll be surprised how good they look.

As for strengthening your wrists invest in a heavier lens, then when you go back to the 24-70mm it'll see a doddle Ok this is a bit tongue in cheek but there is some truth to it. I thought my 70-200mm f2.8 was quite heavy to use at first hand held, but since getting my 150-60mm and using that a lot going back to the 70-200mm almost feels lightweight

To be fair - I was shooting at 1/125 just be make sure - didnt actually try and slower lol.

The 24-120 was nice... but F4 in a dim church probably wouldnt be ideal.

I will probably get used to the weight! When I first came from entry level DSLR to bigger ones it felt huge and heavy, but now the D3300 etc feel like small toys!

 

[snerkler]

@JJ, I shot this at 12800 (was also at 1/50 f4 so should give you some idea how little light there was). View it at normal viewing size (assuming you don't have 4K/5K screen) and I don't think it's bad at all (obviously there's a slight loss of detail). At 7x5" print I bet you wouldn't see any noise.


DSC_1962 by TDG-77, on Flickr

 

[snerkler]

To be fair - I was shooting at 1/125 just be make sure - didnt actually try and slower lol.

Well get practicing

The 24-120 was nice... but F4 in a dim church probably wouldnt be ideal.

Agreed, I was pulling your leg That being said I can shoot at 1/60 at 120mm no problem and during a ceremony 1/60 'should' be fast enough to stop any subject movement.

I will probably get used to the weight! When I first came from entry level DSLR to bigger ones it felt huge and heavy, but now the D3300 etc feel like small toys!

Yeah you soon get used to it. Practice practice practice and you'll soon get used to the handling.

 

[JJ!]

@JJ, I shot this at 12800 (was also at 1/50 f4 so should give you some idea how little light there was). View it at normal viewing size (assuming you don't have 4K/5K screen) and I don't think it's bad at all. At 7x5" print I bet you wouldn't see any noise.


DSC_1962 by TDG-77, on Flickr

Its not bad at all!!!

 

[T_J_G]

1/200 seems like a good shout as was using 1/125 with the 24-85 but that has VR.

Slightly worried at how high the ISO will need to be at 1/200 and f2.8 but will do some low light shooting and check out the results.

For the wedding I've just done I used Auto ISO minimum shutter of 1/250. I trust the D750 up to 12,800. Although when using F1.4/1.8 it has to be very dark before you get into that territory.

 

[anibap]

1/200 seems like a good shout as was using 1/125 with the 24-85 but that has VR.

The lowest I go with the 24-85 VR is 1/4th of a second and sometimes a second as well but with some support using my body or leaning on a structure.

 

[Chuckoir]

Might have just accidentally purchased a 70-200 VR II off the bay, oops.

 

[T_J_G]

For the wedding I've just done I used Auto ISO minimum shutter of 1/250. I trust the D750 up to 12,800. Although when using F1.4/1.8 it has to be very dark before you get into that territory.

For example:

Ellis Christening by Tim G, on Flickr

35mm F1.4 1/250 ISO 1600

Now if that had been a 2.8 you'd be at ISO 6400.

 

[JJ!]

I would love to go all primes but in my honest opinion, I don't think I am experienced enough with weddings to risk it right now and I will not have 2 FX bodies on hand.

I do admire people who shott with just primes, as the IQ is great, and my heart says go all primes, but my head says, don't be stupid, play it safe with a zoom!

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

I would love to go all primes but in my honest opinion, I don't think I am experienced enough with weddings to risk it right now and I will not have 2 FX bodies on hand.

I do admire people who shott with just primes, as the IQ is great, and my heart says go all primes, but my head says, don't be stupid, play it safe with a zoom!

Boo.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Sack the missus off, they'll soon strengthen up then.

Iwas going to put something like that but didnt want to lower the tone of the thread plus if hes like most of us it will only strengthen one wrist, and i knew it would be you David that would put what we were all thinking lol

 

[JJ!]

Iwas going to put something like that but didnt want to lower the tone of the thread plus if hes like most of us it will only strengthen one wrist, and i knew it would be you David that would put what we were all thinking lol

Was going to ask him what I need to hold in my left hand to get used to used the weight of the lens resting... but not sure i wanted to know his answer!

 

[David Tennant]

We've got the 'British Super Bikes' event on my doorstep (Knockhill race Circuit - Central Scotland) on Sat 25th/Sun 26th June so I'll be trying my panning skills over those couple of days. A few large memory cards and a monopod etc.......and patience.

I'm hoping to go to this also but probably just for the qualifying day, really can't be bothered with how busy it will be on the Sunday. We go to the full weekend of the BTCC and Sundays at these things are so busy, I think I can only cope with that once a year

We went down for the Scottish Motor Racing Club meeting a couple of weeks ago and it was good to get about as much as you wanted and shoot from anywhere without big crowds. This was my first shot at Motorsports with my D750 but I've not posted any of the shots in here, they are nothing compared to the ones @minnnt has been posting.

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

I'm hoping to go to this also but probably just for the qualifying day, really can't be bothered with how busy it will be on the Sunday. We go to the full weekend of the BTCC and Sundays at these things are so busy, I think I can only cope with that once a year

We went down for the Scottish Motor Racing Club meeting a couple of weeks ago and it was good to get about as much as you wanted and shoot from anywhere without big crowds. This was my first shot at Motorsports with my D750 but I've not posted any of the shots in here, they are nothing compared to the ones @minnnt has been posting.

I'm thinking about going to the practice friday for the British Superbikes at Snetterton, but not sure how close to the track you can get having never been.

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

Trade in at MPB for my Sigma 70-200 and 2x TC will almost cover the cost of the 135 DC they have..

 

[minnnt]

Was going to ask him what I need to hold in my left hand to get used to used the weight of the lens resting... but not sure i wanted to know his answer!

The 24-70 obviously.

I'm hoping to go to this also but probably just for the qualifying day, really can't be bothered with how busy it will be on the Sunday. We go to the full weekend of the BTCC and Sundays at these things are so busy, I think I can only cope with that once a year

We went down for the Scottish Motor Racing Club meeting a couple of weeks ago and it was good to get about as much as you wanted and shoot from anywhere without big crowds. This was my first shot at Motorsports with my D750 but I've not posted any of the shots in here, they are nothing compared to the ones @minnnt has been posting.

Don't be daft, get 'em posted!!

Trade in at MPB for my Sigma 70-200 and 2x TC will almost cover the cost of the 135 DC they have..

Really? That's an awesome deal!! I'd be getting it boxed up and the label printed if i were you!

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

Really? That's an awesome deal!! I'd be getting it boxed up and the label printed if i were you!

£510 cash, bit more trade in. So not quite almost, but you know, close enough to justify the spend if I wanted lol

But, I might miss the zoom, so, dunno.

 

[minnnt]

Get it boxed up. You said it was crap anyway.

 

[snerkler]

We went down for the Scottish Motor Racing Club meeting a couple of weeks ago and it was good to get about as much as you wanted and shoot from anywhere without big crowds. This was my first shot at Motorsports with my D750 but I've not posted any of the shots in here, they are nothing compared to the ones @minnnt has been posting.

Don't be daft, get em posted. Most of mine are s*** but it doesn't stop me (not implying yours are s*** by the way )

 

[Deleted sulking member 63079]

Get it boxed up. You said it was crap anyway.

It's crap at tracking things coming towards me yeah, but I do like the images it produces at 200.

I can't decide.

 

[anibap]

It's crap at tracking things coming towards me yeah, but I do like the images it produces at 200.

I can't decide.

If it is for portraits only, I am guessing the 135F2 will be better, but having used the 70-200 at 200mm and 2.8, I know what you mean.

 

[ukaskew]

Trade in at MPB for my Sigma 70-200 and 2x TC will almost cover the cost of the 135 DC they have..

Just bought one of theirs, hope it wasn't the one you were after.

Had the 105 DC before and loved it, but in between then and now I've had the Sony Zeiss 135mm 1.8, which was obscenely good, so interested to see how I get on with this one.

 

[snerkler]

Just bought one of theirs, hope it wasn't the one you were after.

Had the 105 DC before and loved it, but in between then and now I've had the Sony Zeiss 135mm 1.8, which was obscenely good, so interested to see how I get on with this one.

My feeling is that you will find it's not as sharp (although some say if nailed it's one of the sharpest lenses out there), and focus will probably be slower but for me at least the 135mm DC renders nicer from what I've seen. I also like the fact that you can control the bokeh. It does appear it suffers from back CA if the light source is behind the subject.

I think a good way to sum up the lenses is that the Sony is clinical whereas the DC is artistic