Nikon D750 & D780

chrism_scotland said:
I spent a lot of time last night looking through Nikon 58mm shots on Flickr.. some great stuff on there but still trying to convince myself its worth the £800+ from Panamoz... especially when the Sigma 50 is only £510!!
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Its more like £850 isnt it. Digitalrev has the Sigma for 499. Im guessing theyd knock another tenner off via request thread.

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chrism_scotland said:
I spent a lot of time last night looking through Nikon 58mm shots on Flickr.. some great stuff on there but still trying to convince myself its worth the £800+ from Panamoz... especially when the Sigma 50 is only £510!!
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I've been toying with the idea of the 58mm and the 50mm Art as well. From what I can gather they are very different from each other. The sigma is second sharpest 50mm just behind the Otus, but the bokeh isn't as pleasing. The 58mm isn't the shapest but does have the best bokeh. Depends on which of these is going to be the most important to you.
 
Such a shame work gets in the way of taking photos, the light was pretty spectacular on the drive in this morning.
 
Willo said:
I've been toying with the idea of the 58mm and the 50mm Art as well. From what I can gather they are very different from each other. The sigma is second sharpest 50mm just behind the Otus, but the bokeh isn't as pleasing. The 58mm isn't the shapest but does have the best bokeh. Depends on which of these is going to be the most important to you.
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It's pin sharp bang on the focus point, but it seems to fall off as you move away from that, I think that's what gives it the character it has, as well as that incredible bokeh. The only Sigma Art lens I have to compare it to is my 24, and I do love the 24, but it's a lot more clinical, sharp all over, but that's not always what matters. That 8mm makes a difference as well for me, I never really gelled with the field of view you get at 50mm, but the 58 is by far my most used lens.
 
KitsuneAndy said:
It's pin sharp bang on the focus point, but it seems to fall off as you move away from that, I think that's what gives it the character it has, as well as that incredible bokeh. The only Sigma Art lens I have to compare it to is my 24, and I do love the 24, but it's a lot more clinical, sharp all over, but that's not always what matters. That 8mm makes a difference as well for me, I never really gelled with the field of view you get at 50mm, but the 58 is by far my most used lens.
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That's what I'm saying, the 58 will give much smoother and creamy bokeh, whereas the 50mm Art was designed to be stupid sharp from the outset. For some people sharpness is all that matters. I would probably go for the 58mm over the siggy, the weight and size alone rules it out for me. MPB had one for £750 a couple of weeks ago, I should have brought it.
 
chrism_scotland said:
Agree on the weight and size considerations the 58mm would probably end up glued to the camera the Sigma might be more likely to see the inside of my bag a lot...
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What do you shoot? Is bokeh more important than sharpness? It doesnt seem like you do a lot of shallow DOF portraits etc.
 
twist said:
What do you shoot? Is bokeh more important than sharpness? It doesnt seem like you do a lot of shallow DOF portraits etc.
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I'm planning on using it for travel, etc rather than portraits although there's nothing to say I never will!
 
Can you guys not talk about the 58 F1.4? It is seriously GAS friendly discussion :D.
I love shooting portraits and this 58 is now in now getting into my head after seeing some awesome images.

I think the 85 1.8G is more than enough for my needs and will be better in many occasions and look compared to the 58 1.5, but the 85 is also a clinical lens in terms of sharpness and certain near field and far field objects within out of focus zones can get mixed up to create harsh bokeh. I am certain the 58 will not suffer from such issues including it's very unique characteristic look.

Need to take a break from this thread :eek: . Who is buying one and posting images ?
 
chrism_scotland said:
I'm planning on using it for travel, etc rather than portraits although there's nothing to say I never will!
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For travel a zoom will be more versatile though, saves you lugging around loads of lenses and the wife complaining that you've filled up all of your hand luggage allowance with lenses, oh and then can't carry your little girl when she gets tired because you have to lug around said lenses everywhere.

Not that I've done that several times before or anything..

anibap said:
@minnnt , get one mate and start posting images :D
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I'll get some more posted tonight if I remember :D
 
twist said:
58mm does seem bit an odd choice for travel.
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Agree, the last time I took my 50 1.8G was in nice and and the only time it came out was when the lights went dark in the evening. As it went darker, I found I needed a wider lens to capture the city. At that time I was using the D5100 and Nikon 18-70, so my low light range was limited on kit lens and the 50 1.8 only helped in grabbing some odd shots.

With the D610 and D750, I used the 24-85 after dark and although the lens is not fast, it came out with decent images die to the high IS of the D750 and good VR on the lens to shoot up to 1/4th of a second handheld..

For travel, I wish to see a light weight filter friendly short range 18-35 or 24-35 with a constant F2 or F2.8 some day with VR and I will buy in a heartbeat. The Sigma 24-35 F2 is very tempting, but it is bit heavy and with no VR. Even if Nikon releases a new version of 18-35 G with VR, I wil buy it.
 
anibap said:
Agree, the last time I took my 50 1.8G was in nice and and the only time it came out was when the lights went dark in the evening. As it went darker, I found I needed a wider lens to capture the city. At that time I was using the D5100 and Nikon 18-70, so my low light range was limited on kit lens and the 50 1.8 only helped in grabbing some odd shots.

With the D610 and D750, I used the 24-85 after dark and although the lens is not fast, it came out with decent images die to the high IS of the D750 and good VR on the lens to shoot up to 1/4th of a second handheld..

For travel, I wish to see a light weight filter friendly short range 18-35 or 24-35 with a constant F2 or F2.8 some day with VR and I will buy in a heartbeat. The Sigma 24-35 F2 is very tempting, but it is bit heavy and with no VR. Even if Nikon releases a new version of 18-35 G with VR, I wil buy it.
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Can't ever see an F2 zoom being lightweight tbh.
 
snerkler said:
Can't ever see an F2 zoom being lightweight tbh.
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Understand that, hoping a lens manufacturer will come up with some innovation to make it lighter.

If Sigma 24-35 F2 had VR, I would have definitely bought one instead of waiting. The Tamron 15-30 2.8 also feels nice in hand and I tried it at the Tamron event. It has VC, but the lack of filter capability is a deal breaker for many like me.
 
anibap said:
Understand that, hoping a lens manufacturer will come up with some innovation to make it lighter.

If Sigma 24-35 F2 had VR, I would have definitely bought one instead of waiting. The Tamron 15-30 2.8 also feels nice in hand and I tried it at the Tamron event. It has VC, but the lack of filter capability is a deal breaker for many like me.
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Yep, I'm waiting for the day someone manages to 'defy' the laws of physics with optics. FF the size of m4/3 would be great :lol:
 
I'm planning to stick to prime only for my D750 lens lineup (except maybe the excellent and light 18-35...) hence looking at the 58mm, based on my use of the 24-70 around 55-60mm is my favourite focal length generally and it seems like a lens with bags of character..... and someones got to try it!

If the Sigma 50 was the same size and weight of the 35mm then I'd take that in a heartbeat based on its performance v cost but I'm just not sure I could be bothered with the size it is... IQ though is superb and I do live the Sigma 35!
 
No! Stop now.
I had to buy a screen protector when we overdosed on posts about them but I don't need persuading to buy a 58mm f1.4 that I can't afford.
 
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