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Thank you I'll revert back to 100. I had a feeling they weren't as crisp
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Thank you I'll revert back to 100. I had a feeling they weren't as crisp
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I don't understand your question, are you wanting the graphs interpreted?
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I would be very skeptical of any chart that suggests the DR will be better at 12800 ISO than 100 ISO tbh
The DR on the Canon is poor as base ISO, but in it's favour it does hang on to more DR at higher ISO's. However, as DR is arguably most important for landscapes which will generally be shot at 100 ISO I know which I'd rather have
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Comp...-Canon-EOS-6D-versus-Nikon-D750___963_836_975
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Its not crap, it depends on how you use the camera, the 6D does take a very slight lead at ISO 3200 over the D750. but you wouldnt notice that difference, you would however notice the difference up till around ISO 600-800. This is the real DR read from the sensors.
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And in the real world, heres the difference with a 5 stop push at ISO 100 between the 5d3 and d750.
Credit to Ross Harvey, pretty sure he's a member here and doesnt mind the link
http://www.rossharvey.com/reviews/nikon-d750-review
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lol, not already
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Bit slow there with the DXO linkIts not crap, it depends on how you use the camera, the 6D does take a very slight lead at ISO 3200 over the D750. but you wouldnt notice that difference, you would however notice the difference up till around ISO 600-800. This is the real DR read from the sensors.
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And in the real world, heres the difference with a 5 stop push at ISO 100 between the 5d3 and d750.
Credit to Ross Harvey, pretty sure he's a member here and doesnt mind the link
http://www.rossharvey.com/reviews/nikon-d750-review
That's a very revealing test with the 5D3, just shows the recovery you can get with the D750
Bit slow there with the DXO link
That's a very revealing test with the 5D3, just shows the recovery you can get with the D750
At least my link shows the DR at different ISOs, thats very important to understand how it actually works. Not a silly single figure
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Damn it, my link was to the page with that graph you posted but it keeps taking you back to the overview for some reason :banghead:At least my link shows the DR at different ISOs, thats very important to understand how it actually works. Not a silly single figure
I wouldnt call Techradar a camera website.
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Me neither but it was the first result on the page and found the results a little odd.
Why don't any local camera stores have a D810 or Df to play with? Maybe it's a sign...
Not bored of the d750 already?!?
Me neither but it was the first result on the page and found the results a little odd.
Why don't any local camera stores have a D810 or Df to play with? Maybe it's a sign...
I recently sold my D750 after stupidly getting GAS for an A7rii... as reviews started coming out and performance tests etc. Ive gone right off it, for me its going to be a compromise..... I just placed an order for my 3rd D750. What a plonker! Im far worse than you.
Point is, while I was crazily considering spending £2600 on a body I also considered the rest, D810, DF, 5D3, 6D, D610 etc etc. again, but I still chose the D750, its just a wonderfully rounded no compromise camera at a very cheap price.
D810 will give you more res and better build quality, do you need that vs better noise control, smaller and lighter body, better grip, wifi, tilty screen, better AF and battery life. DF for me is a non starter for several reasons, not enough MP, poor AF in comparison, clunky controls and handling, no video, only 1 lens actually matches the old school looks.
Thank F I kept my Tamron 70-200 VC! Now I need to order some more primes.
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I would say just enjoy the camera,don't worry about graph & charts,to me they mean little in the real world
I would say just enjoy the camera,don't worry about graph & charts,to me they mean little in the real world
They translate into the real world end results though, so not something to ignore imo.
In someways yes,but at the end of the day a good photo is an good photo,no matter what the graphs & charts say about the camera
In someways yes,but at the end of the day a good photo is an good photo,no matter what the graphs & charts say about the camera
Kind of, but the camera can help with things like capturing the subject in terms of AF speed/accuracy, detail recovery and noise levels in terms of sensor and final output. All of that imo makes it easier to make a better photo, or wed all be using compacts.
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I used to like reading the Techrader reviews but a couple of years ago they changed the person I think, who carries out the reviews. There biggest concern and always the same knock back was the camera didn't have touchscreen. To me WTF these are top end cameras their testing not smartphones. I just wait for DP and user reviews now.
I think we are both right,at the moment i am using Fuji cameras which are fine for me and the photos i take,and i shoot in j-peg,maybe if my style or subject changes i might be more interested in whats out their new
I think we are both right,at the moment i am using Fuji cameras which are fine for me and the photos i take,and i shoot in j-peg,maybe if my style or subject changes i might be more interested in whats out their new
Its whatever works for the user, if its not comfortable or whatever youre less likely to use it.
Review are useful as an starting point,then other thing start to factor in,one is there seem less follow up reviews about long term use of cameras
Review are useful as an starting point,then other thing start to factor in,one is there seem less follow up reviews about long term use of cameras
Definitely, thats why communities like these are so great.
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Not so very sure I agree with that statement as my bank balance has taken a battering over the last 24 hours..
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I just wait for Twist to buy them and gauge it from there as you know he'll buy every meaningful camera that's brought out
Joking aside, yeah what is that about touchscreen and completely knocking a camera because it doesn't have it? I've had touchscreen on my Olympuses (or should that be Olympi?
) and the first thing I do is disable it. Just gets it the way for me, and you end up with fingerprints all over your screen. Plus I hate using any touchscreen that's not as slick as the iPhone I just wait for Twist to buy them and gauge it from there as you know he'll buy every meaningful camera that's brought out
Yep it the only way of knowing,it seem theses day about long term use
Especially true with Fuji and their multiple FW improvements.
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I have to say I've gone right off the A7rII after seeing the initial problems there seem to be with noise and pixels, etc.
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Me neither but it was the first result on the page and found the results a little odd.
Why don't any local camera stores have a D810 or Df to play with? Maybe it's a sign...
Because Nikon in their infinite wisdom prefer to supply their higher end bodies to their "Professional" dealer network, leaving the little specialists (who are usually better placed to demonstrate the higher end kit than most of the box shifters) to squabble over compact sales. Visit Jessops, LCE and the like and they MIGHT let you have a fondle but might not let you take any test frames to compare results at your leisure - even the larger chains usually have to buy the demonstration kit so are often unwilling to allow "test drives".
Have to say that I enjoy using the D750 much more than I enjoyed the D800 I used to have and found the Df I had a brief fondle of rather bulky and clumsy compared to the X-T1.
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Its not crap, it depends on how you use the camera, the 6D does take a very slight lead at ISO 3200 over the D750. but you wouldnt notice that difference, you would however notice the difference up till around ISO 600-800. This is the real DR read from the sensors.
View attachment 44132
And in the real world, heres the difference with a 5 stop push at ISO 100 between the 5d3 and d750.
Credit to Ross Harvey, pretty sure he's a member here and doesnt mind the link
http://www.rossharvey.com/reviews/nikon-d750-review
Heres another real world example, I took this as a little tester, exposed for the window. 4 stop push in post in key areas to get it the way I wanted it, base ISO. I was very impressed.
These tests are actually amazing! I still love my D750
As much if not more than the day I bought it!
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TBH, Jessops are more into Canon than Nikon (in more ways than one...) so tend to sell Canons more than push Nikons - they might still be on a cash with order basis with Nikon after their last demise!
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It's only a phrase I've used because an older generation of photographers on facebook groups have used it to belittle how I work; it's like somehow if you hold down your shutter long enough, composition and focus would magically fall into place. When compared to film wedding photography, it is of course very different, but from reading books on documentary/war photography where capturing humans was key, those guys often burned through film when they were in the moment.
I shoot up to about 4000 images at a wedding where a lot is going on. A large bulk of it is little pockets of the same scene.
I also (short) burst shoot the family photos. Again, old pros say you don't need to do that if you have 'good technique' for making people look at you and have your eyes open. The thing is, the old film pros weren't competing for attention with about 40 phone/ipad cameras. I have my own techniques for getting good family (in)formals.