Nikon D750 & D780

shapeshifter said:
Have you tried Panamoz. Sorry couldn't resist it! LOL:exit:
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I figured somebody would have a black band 750 for sale,cheap. I don't look for problems, I look for ways around them, this camera could be a great compliment to the 800 for what I do.
 
fracster said:
I figured somebody would have a black band 750 for sale,cheap. I don't look for problems, I look for ways around them, this camera could be a great compliment to the 800 for what I do.
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no you don't!

the lens is what matters in what you do
 
I think that it is a great shame …… I have had Nikons since the mid 1970's or earlier - still have my Nikon F and you lot have really "trashed" the brand with your comments and constant blind defence to justify your purchase ……. it is not the camera that is the problem it is the "nouveau" that buy them blindlessly without the consideration of history ….. spend your money as it is just like buying a burger at MacDonald's.

I was about to buy a D750 but this thread has made me realise that it needs more careful thought … if you think that the D750 will improve what you produce go ahead

Nikon are releasing so much kit, (particularly bodies), every year they are not too bothered about anything other than the bottom line … they can take any problems within their profit margin

sadness is the word that springs to mind brought on by the current breed of buyers and their close-mindedness.

I may buy a D750 but it will not improve my photographic ability
 
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JulesP said:
at the back of my mind that it had been faulty and I never really trusted it after that.
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As I felt when my D750's command dial packed up after just one week. I lost all confidence, returned it and bought a D810 instead and found to my great pleasure that the 810 is a truly excellent camera
 
I've been using Nikons since the late 70s myself. I think if you read my posts on here they are quite balanced. I haven't denied that some people are having issues, but I haven't experienced any issues even though I have tried to replicate them.

When I spoke to Nikon UK they said there have been a few issues but it's not as widespread as the Internet forums suggest. They are not seeing many D750s returned. Indeed if the issue is as widespread as forums suggest then why are they not being sent back to their lab in large quantities? - that's from Nikon UK this week !

Compare and contrast this with the D810. The thermal issue. Nikon acknowledged this very quickly and issued a minor modification and firmware upgrade.

The camera market has changed considerably since the 70s / 80s the F2 / F3 was solid. Today technologies have moved on that's new market. That's reality. These quality issues are not good for Nikon but neither is the bad publicity by people jumping on the band wagon with a problem that may or not be universally present. And that's where Nikon are at the moment.

Nikon UK are encouraging people to return their faulty defective D750s to them so they can find out what the issue is - if there is one. There is always going to be the odd issue with new cameras. Nikon, Sony, Canon and Fuji have all had them.

Nikon UK / Europe are not responding to this 'globally' yet because they don't know what the scale of the problem is, or exactly what it is. As and when they do they will act on it just like they did with the D600 and D810. Again, that is from Nikon UK.

Just because I don't have any issues with my camera that does not mean I am unsympathetic to others that have had it, on the contrary. It also does not mean I'm in denial.

You mention "trashed" and "history" but if you actually look at Nikons history yourself, you will come to realise that 'Nikon' put these problems right.

I would advocate anybody taking their time and not rushing into any camera purchase until they are ready whatever brand they choose.
 
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Thumbs up to Panamoz for service, refunded my money today despite the camera not making it back to HK yet. As for buying another, I was sufficiently impressed (in the short time I had it) to want a replacement, but will be buying from a UK brick and mortar store where I can exchange it quickly if there's an issue.
 
psenior1 said:
Thumbs up to Panamoz for service, refunded my money today despite the camera not making it back to HK yet. As for buying another, I was sufficiently impressed (in the short time I had it) to want a replacement, but will be buying from a UK brick and mortar store where I can exchange it quickly if there's an issue.
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I am of a similar opinion.I would like a D750 but I want to check it for the light leak flare problem in the shop first it saves hassle later.

It would be ideal if Nikon could clear all this up by making a public statement of intent then people would be able to make a choice.For nikon to say to individuals "it is a known problem" sort of take it or leave it does not seem acceptable to me.

I will wait.
 
I've got an 201xxxx one, purchased from Pan and although I haven't, and don't see the point in, shinning a torch directly into the body, I haven't noticed any issues when shooting real world backlit scenes with the 50mm 1.8g. If the issue does appear, guess what, I'll send it back and get a replacement, not a big deal in my opinion. Personally, I think people without the camera shouldn't be posting on the issue, it's getting blown way out of proportion by people who don't have any firsthand experience of the kit and or issue. Read about it, sure, ask questions, no problem with that, but please stop ranting about how bad the problem is, when your views are not based on any actual experience with this camera. Rant over, off to snap Christmas with the D750 and my new 18-35 - going to be fun :)
 
OK, the sun showed its face today and I took the opportunity to take a couple of images that I think illustrate the problem. Both taken with Nikon 50mm 1.8G lens @ F8 with lens hood fitted. The first image shows the "banding" and flare that I believe everyone is talking about, even if they don't own the camera and haven't experienced it at first hand. The sun is well out of frame in that image. The second image has the sun only just out of frame at the top of the roofs. No banding. So, it isn't necessary to have the sun (or a torch) in the frame and it doesn't get worse the close the sun gets to edge of frame - Quite the contrary. Of course it's a rubbish image converted from raw with no PP, but does serve to show the problem. Is it acceptable? - That's up to the owner I guess. I don't like it for sure.

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Adam Wortman said:
I've got an 201xxxx one, purchased from Pan and although I haven't, and don't see the point in, shinning a torch directly into the body, I haven't noticed any issues when shooting real world backlit scenes with the 50mm 1.8g. If the issue does appear, guess what, I'll send it back and get a replacement, not a big deal in my opinion. Personally, I think people without the camera shouldn't be posting on the issue, it's getting blown way out of proportion by people who don't have any firsthand experience of the kit and or issue. Read about it, sure, ask questions, no problem with that, but please stop ranting about how bad the problem is, when your views are not based on any actual experience with this camera. Rant over, off to snap Christmas with the D750 and my new 18-35 - going to be fun :)
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How do send it back for a replacement six months down the road when you find the defect?
If it has a defect find it now and send it back.
 
geriatrix said:
OK, the sun showed its face today and I took the opportunity to take a couple of images that I think illustrate the problem. Both taken with Nikon 50mm 1.8G lens @ F8 with lens hood fitted. The first image shows the "banding" and flare that I believe everyone is talking about, even if they don't own the camera and haven't experienced it at first hand. The sun is well out of frame in that image. The second image has the sun only just out of frame at the top of the roofs. No banding. So, it isn't necessary to have the sun (or a torch) in the frame and it doesn't get worse the close the sun gets to edge of frame - Quite the contrary. Of course it's a rubbish image converted from raw with no PP, but does serve to show the problem. Is it acceptable? - That's up to the owner I guess. I don't like it for sure.

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Yep thats not good ! I would get in touch with Nikon asap:

Contact details:-

http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/service_support/Repair+Centre/Support_Contact.page?

If you have any general questions about the repair service we provide, you can contact our Customer Support Team by telephone from 9.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday, on 0330 123 0932. These calls may be recorded or monitored for training purposes.

If you have already sent your camera into Nikon UK, you can contact our Service Support Team by telephone from 9:00am to 5:00pm Monday to Thursday and 9:00am to 4:30pm on Friday, on 0330 123 0928

Calls to '03' numbers are charged at no more than national call rate and will be included as part of any inclusive minutes or discount package

Alternatively, you may “ask a question” via our support site.

The address to send repairs, or any written correspondence, is:

Nikon UK Service Dept
380 Richmond Road
Kingston
Surrey
KT2 5PR
 
geriatrix said:
OK, the sun showed its face today and I took the opportunity to take a couple of images that I think illustrate the problem. Both taken with Nikon 50mm 1.8G lens @ F8 with lens hood fitted. The first image shows the "banding" and flare that I believe everyone is talking about, even if they don't own the camera and haven't experienced it at first hand. The sun is well out of frame in that image. The second image has the sun only just out of frame at the top of the roofs. No banding. So, it isn't necessary to have the sun (or a torch) in the frame and it doesn't get worse the close the sun gets to edge of frame - Quite the contrary. Of course it's a rubbish image converted from raw with no PP, but does serve to show the problem. Is it acceptable? - That's up to the owner I guess. I don't like it for sure.

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Camera​

NIKON D750​

Focal Length​

50mm​

Aperture​

f/8​

Exposure​

1/320s​

ISO​

200​
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Thanks for the post Geriatrix.As they say a picture says a thousand words.
 
Already contacted Nikon "customer support team" by telephone yesterday and escalated issue. To paraphrase, the response was "It's a characteristic of the D750, not a defect". "We had a few in a while back, but it can't be fixed so there's no point in attempting to rectify yours".

I can't see any point in me trying to get past this response with Nikon, so I am taking it up with the retailer. If this is indeed a characteristic of all D750's then I want to return for credit. If it can be exchanged for a "good" one then fine.

So this remains open for now.
 
geriatrix said:
Already contacted Nikon "customer support team" by telephone yesterday and escalated issue. To paraphrase, the response was "It's a characteristic of the D750, not a defect". "We had a few in a while back, but it can't be fixed so there's no point in attempting to rectify yours".
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WTF :eek: Unacceptable. Seems various people are getting told different things.
 
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geriatrix said:
Already contacted Nikon "customer support team" by telephone yesterday and escalated issue. To paraphrase, the response was "It's a characteristic of the D750, not a defect". "We had a few in a while back, but it can't be fixed so there's no point in attempting to rectify yours".

I can't see any point in me trying to get past this response with Nikon, so I am taking it up with the retailer. If this is indeed a characteristic of all D750's then I want to return for credit. If it can be exchanged for a "good" one then fine.

So this remains open for now.
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Where did you buy yours Steve?
 
my father in law hasn't had any problems with his - imo this is going to be like the 7D focus issue , and various other scare stories - far more hype than substance
 
If you don't mind I'd rather not say where I bought it right now, suffice to say they are a well known retailer in the South. I have only just bought it up with them and I believe they are anxious to resolve the problem one way or another. I will be trying out another two more recent bodies next week, so it'll be interesting to see if they exhibit this "characteristic".
 
geriatrix said:
If you don't mind I'd rather not say where I bought it right now, suffice to say they are a well known retailer in the South. I have only just bought it up with them and I believe they are anxious to resolve the problem one way or another. I will be trying out another two more recent bodies next week, so it'll be interesting to see if they exhibit this "characteristic".
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No problem, the only reason I ask is because some members are convinced its only grey imports suffering from the issue, which is ridiculous. Good luck with the other cameras.
 
geriatrix said:
OK, the sun showed its face today and I took the opportunity to take a couple of images that I think illustrate the problem. Both taken with Nikon 50mm 1.8G lens @ F8 with lens hood fitted. The first image shows the "banding" and flare that I believe everyone is talking about, even if they don't own the camera and haven't experienced it at first hand. The sun is well out of frame in that image. The second image has the sun only just out of frame at the top of the roofs. No banding. So, it isn't necessary to have the sun (or a torch) in the frame and it doesn't get worse the close the sun gets to edge of frame - Quite the contrary. Of course it's a rubbish image converted from raw with no PP, but does serve to show the problem. Is it acceptable? - That's up to the owner I guess. I don't like it for sure.

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Can you add your serial number (not the whole thing obviously) so we can see if there is a link at all.
 
twist said:
No problem, the only reason I ask is because some members are convinced its only grey imports suffering from the issue, which is ridiculous. Good luck with the other cameras.
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I don't think that they are - i.e. think that the problem is only grey imports - I put the original poll together to try to ascertain how many D750 had been bought by members on this forum, it would be good to know, and how many had problems - the split was there just to add more interest, but it was seen, erroneously by some, as some kind of anti-grey plot - I have bought stuff from grey importers and have had no problems - over the years I have also had maybe 15 plus Nikon bodies, without any problems and also have 20 plus pieces of Nikon glass. I have shot Nikon since the 70's and am quite a Nikon fan ….. my suggestion was not in any way knocking Nikon, (I was accused of scaremongering - I think you should look at this thread, plenty of you on here are doing that), it was to gain more information rather that the constant ramble that seems to be bringing out faults on a piecemeal basis.

From reading the thread, IMHO, this place is not appropriate if you want an sensible assessment of the Nikon D750 …… the thread is all over the place ….. with no consistent sense of logic ….. you would be far better putting numbers on and establishing how many of you have a D750 and what the problems are
 
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geriatrix said:
Already contacted Nikon "customer support team" by telephone yesterday and escalated issue. To paraphrase, the response was "It's a characteristic of the D750, not a defect". "We had a few in a while back, but it can't be fixed so there's no point in attempting to rectify yours".

I can't see any point in me trying to get past this response with Nikon, so I am taking it up with the retailer. If this is indeed a characteristic of all D750's then I want to return for credit. If it can be exchanged for a "good" one then fine.

So this remains open for now.
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I would phone them again and ask that you speak with the Manager stating that you are not happy with the response. I'd follow it up with an email and attach your photographs. Good luck.
 
Blank_Canvas said:
I would phone them again and ask that you speak with the Manager stating that you are not happy with the response. I'd follow it up with an email and attach your photographs. Good luck.
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Agreed, still cant believe that response, if thats the case Nikon should be making people aware of the major issue and changing their marketing if consumers will be shooting into light! Its a characteristic, yeah, a really s***ty one.
 
Serial no is 600 40 xx

I can't see that I'll get any further on the phone with Nikon. It's very frustrating to come up against a stone wall. I'll take it up in writing together with images so that I can get a formal response.
 
Mine is 602 66 xx, so newer still and I can get it to exhibit the same phenomenon if I shine a bright light at the lens just outside the view of it, but in the real world, although I've only had it for a couple of weeks and only shot about 300-400 images, not one of them displays it.

Will be interesting in spring and summer when the sun returns to see if it's really as big an issue as people think ?
 
BillN_33 said:
From reading the thread, IMHO, this place is not appropriate if you want an sensible assessment of the Nikon D750 …… the thread is all over the place ….. with no consistent sense of logic ….. you would be far better putting numbers on and establishing how many of you have a D750 and what the problems are
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The issue with any poll on a forum like this is that people are far more likely to respond if they have an issue, so it's not really going to tell you anything that this thread hasn't.

You then have the significant variable that some are intentionally trying to force the problem, some have experienced it in real world shooting, some have tried and failed to cause the issue, and then you have people like me who have absolutely no interest in trying to replicate it, so are not likely to ever know if their camera is 'faulty' or not.

Anyhow, I'm going to call it a day on here for now, enjoy taking photos of my family and newborn son over Christmas on my D750 (which is superb for capturing a very wriggly little boy in low light by the way), then shoot a wedding with it just after Christmas. If I have any issues I will report back, heaven forbid I might even post some nice sample photos from it as well.
 
ukaskew said:
The issue with any poll on a forum like this is that people are far more likely to respond if they have an issue, so it's not really going to tell you anything that this thread hasn't.

You then have the significant variable that some are intentionally trying to force the problem, some have experienced it in real world shooting, some have tried and failed to cause the issue, and then you have people like me who have absolutely no interest in trying to replicate it, so are not likely to ever know if their camera is 'faulty' or not.

Anyhow, I'm going to call it a day on here for now, enjoy taking photos of my family and newborn son over Christmas on my D750 (which is superb for capturing a very wriggly little boy in low light by the way), then shoot a wedding with it just after Christmas. If I have any issues I will report back, heaven forbid I might even post some nice sample photos from it as well.
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sample images - look in the Bird section - as usual leads the way!!

https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/just-a-simple-robin-and-a-jay.572168/
 
Here's another couple of images. The sun is way out of frame in the first and behind clouds in the second. Draw your own conclusions

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Blimey. That's doing it all the time then. There's definitely some sample variation going on here as mine just won't do it at all. I've given up trying to make it.
 
I said a long while ago that I thought the "flare" issue was from the AF sensor. Well, it seems that I was right and there is no "fix" for it. To fix the issue would require a mechanical redesign and that's not likely to happen.
But, this "issue" isn't unique to the D750. From what I've heard it can also be created with most of the newer bodies (I haven't seen it though). My only point is, it's a minor issue... if you shoot into the light as your primary light source you have to expect issues, it doesn't much matter what you are using.

Here's a video of "fixing" the flare problem.
 
I used my camera for a couple of months before I noted any problem. Not that much outdoors use and mainly in dull conditions. I encoutered it first in my home studio with a backlit subject. Now that you know that it shows itself in back lit conditions, you would have found it by now if your camera was faulty. I'm going to call it a fault despite Nikon's denial.
 
geriatrix said:
I used my camera for a couple of months before I noted any problem. Not that much outdoors use and mainly in dull conditions. I encoutered it first in my home studio with a backlit subject. Now that you know that it shows itself in back lit conditions, you would have found it by now if your camera was faulty. I'm going to call it a fault despite Nikon's denial.
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Ill agree, its a fault, it shows up in every day pics as per your sample, thats not fit for purpose, especially as a very expensive piece of equipment. I never realised it was that bad tbh and Nikon need to get it sorted or retailers need to give refunds/replacements and return the faulty equipment to Nikon.
 
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Happy to report both D750s shooting into the blazing sun from a variety of angles, no sign of this issue. Sigma 35 / 50 art lenses and also a Nikon 50mm 1.8G for good measure. I do normally shade the camera as I despise flare but thought I'd try to create the issue mentioned.
 
I dont think serial no's have anything to do with it. Ive seen very low to very high numbers with the same issue. Very odd.
 
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