Nikon D750 & D780

F/1.4 said:
Yours seems like an extreme example by the looks of it as its not like youre shooting into a harsh backlight. Don't get me wrong, no camera is perfect and the shooting conditions that seem to show this symptom up will cause any camera bother. Over at fredmiranda theyre saying it was the early batches just, were you an early adopter Gary ?
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Dont know when it was released but i got mine 8 weeks ago, it doesnt show up in viewfinder but does shoe in live view

sent Nikon a card with 30 images on, best 2 samples prove theres definatley something happening inside on left side, took 1 pic in dining room, framed it and bingo its there and very bad, there is a light source on the left side so to discount flare like symptome i turned the camera upside down and framed the exact same scent so the light source falls on the right side of the sensor, guess what, nothing abnormal
 
Here goes, top photo, there is a light source left of frame about 4 feet to the left of the photo on the wall, its a french door.

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Second photo, as near framing the same as the top photo except i turned the camera upside down so that the right side of the sensor is capturing where the main light source is, ie the ceiling light, ive inverted and turned the photo.

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left side of camera/sensor leaks light, right side doesnt.
 
Thanks Gary for the replies. It does indeed look like something isn't right. Hopefully this issue has been picked up on and rectified with newer batches.
 
Another general shot with the sun shining in from the right of the frame, but what's that on the left side at the top of the gate ?????

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Gary Coyle said:
Another general shot with the sun shining in from the right of the frame, but what's that on the left side at the top of the gate ?????

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Agreed, yours looks pretty bad, most of the others are caused by very bright backlight and then its a hard edge at the top, not sides.
 
Gary Coyle said:
I can also get that affect as well but not as pronounced as this
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I cant get what youre getting and its very hard for me to get the hard edge, i tried with all the lights in the house and the only way i could get it was to use a very bright led torch and shine it directly toward the sensor. Obviously thats not real world shooting. I couldnt get anything but normal flare when shooting toward bright sunlight. Ive seen more cameras do this though so its not a d750 thing.

Good thing Nikons going to sort it for you (at cost via pana), keep us updated.
 
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Strange phenomenon, I have tried to replicate this by shooting through 180 degrees close to a high intensity light source to replicate the sun. It seems to be very sporadic. No issues to report with my D750.
 
omg was nearly ready to press the button now more research needed ah well thats life
 
Simplythebeast said:
How many on TalkPhotography have D750s and how many have this issue?
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I've got one and haven't noticed this issue yet. I did have a bit of a look for it but couldn't recreate it.

I think it's a bit premature to be putting all D750's into the same bracket at the moment.

Gary's issue looks to be a lot worse than the other "Internal Reflection" samples I have seen.
 
Alejandro said:
I've got one and haven't noticed this issue yet. I did have a bit of a look for it but couldn't recreate it.

I think it's a bit premature to be putting all D750's into the same bracket at the moment.

Gary's issue looks to be a lot worse than the other "Internal Reflection" samples I have seen.
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Agreed, Garys isnt the norm, its also quite hard to replicate the issue without doing something daft (like shining an LED into the front of the camera while its in live view).

I do believe it does effect all D750s (across a range of manufacture dates and serial nos) and whats more important !OTHER! brands of high end cameras, so its not a D750 thing.
 
How do you possibly come to that conclusion ? Are you a Nikon engineer or have you tested every D750????
 
F/1.4 said:
How do you possibly come to that conclusion ? Are you a Nikon engineer or have you tested every D750????
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Ive clearly done a LOT more research than you to pass it on as 'isolated', thats how.
 
I have checked with a few users that use harsh backlight frequently, one being Cliff Mautner and he is 100% confident this isn't a problem. Sorry I can't trawl every photography forum checking for faults I have a family and a photography business so don't get a lot of time.
 
F/1.4 said:
I have checked with a few users that use harsh backlight frequently, one being Cliff Mautner and he is 100% confident this isn't a problem. Sorry I can't trawl every photography forum checking for faults I have a family and a photography business so don't get a lot of time.
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Good for you, how do you know I dont have either or both or are you making assumptions again. The issue is well recorded amongst a lot of users with various serials and more reporting all the time. I never said it was a major issue, did I? I said its very hard to replicate.
 
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Why so angry ??? I don't get it. Its a camera. Not life and death relax and stop taking yourself so serious twist
 
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True dude, same here I don't think it would bother me. Sorry if I sounded like I was having a jab at you, I wasn't :)
 
I've not noticed any issues with mine and I've tried to recreate the hard shadow at the top of the frame without much success.
 
DigitalRelish said:
I've not noticed any issues with mine and I've tried to recreate the hard shadow at the top of the frame without much success.
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Have you tried a torch in live view mode? I also couldnt recreate it easily in natural or house lighting.
 
The big question is- How many none grey imports have this light leak defect as apposed to genuine UK cameras?

I have said in the past and my experience with grey imports has been that the "trick" is to make the customer think UK taxes and import duties are being avoided so that is why the camera/lens is cheap. When in actual fact the reality is that the camera/equipment has failed the quality control test but is sold on to these dealers in HK at a cheap rate who sell them on using the above mentioned "trick". Some people on these forums have worked out the UK taxes/duties on these cameras and have found that the prices delivered from HK are still lower than the untaxed item! When any of these grey importers are asked "how can you do these cameras so cheap" there is no rational answer forthcoming.

Nikon will sort GC camera but I do wonder if Fred at Nikon has said
" Hey Boss we have some of those failed quality control D750's coming in from the UK what shall we do tell them we are not honoring the warranty as they are grey imports or repair them?"
"Don't you remember Fred when we sell our failed quality control gear cheap to our outlet we said if the buyer complains we will repair it, if the buyers don't notice these small defects or accept them then we have got them away"

Grey import £500 cheaper 30% less than UK! Tell us how you do it grey importers?
 
Not in a million years would that happen in my opinion. Any defect cameras are going to cause PR issues, regardless of their origin, especially in this global internet age. With the D600 fallout they wouldn't risk that again.

As an absolute minimum they would fix known defective cameras and sell them as refurbs.
 
shapeshifter said:
The big question is- How many none grey imports have this light leak defect as apposed to genuine UK cameras?

I have said in the past and my experience with grey imports has been that the "trick" is to make the customer think UK taxes and import duties are being avoided so that is why the camera/lens is cheap. When in actual fact the reality is that the camera/equipment has failed the quality control test but is sold on to these dealers in HK at a cheap rate who sell them on using the above mentioned "trick". Some people on these forums have worked out the UK taxes/duties on these cameras and have found that the prices delivered from HK are still lower than the untaxed item! When any of these grey importers are asked "how can you do these cameras so cheap" there is no rational answer forthcoming.

Nikon will sort GC camera but I do wonder if Fred at Nikon has said
" Hey Boss we have some of those failed quality control D750's coming in from the UK what shall we do tell them we are not honoring the warranty as they are grey imports or repair them?"
"Don't you remember Fred when we sell our failed quality control gear cheap to our outlet we said if the buyer complains we will repair it, if the buyers don't notice these small defects or accept them then we have got them away"

Grey import £500 cheaper 30% less than UK! Tell us how you do it grey importers?
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I bet you think we never did land on the moon or that Elvis is still alive
 
shapeshifter said:
The big question is- How many none grey imports have this light leak defect as apposed to genuine UK cameras?

I have said in the past and my experience with grey imports has been that the "trick" is to make the customer think UK taxes and import duties are being avoided so that is why the camera/lens is cheap. When in actual fact the reality is that the camera/equipment has failed the quality control test but is sold on to these dealers in HK at a cheap rate who sell them on using the above mentioned "trick". Some people on these forums have worked out the UK taxes/duties on these cameras and have found that the prices delivered from HK are still lower than the untaxed item! When any of these grey importers are asked "how can you do these cameras so cheap" there is no rational answer forthcoming.

Nikon will sort GC camera but I do wonder if Fred at Nikon has said
" Hey Boss we have some of those failed quality control D750's coming in from the UK what shall we do tell them we are not honoring the warranty as they are grey imports or repair them?"
"Don't you remember Fred when we sell our failed quality control gear cheap to our outlet we said if the buyer complains we will repair it, if the buyers don't notice these small defects or accept them then we have got them away"

Grey import £500 cheaper 30% less than UK! Tell us how you do it grey importers?
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Mind blown.

Your implying that grey imports are defective Nikon stock, wow Nikon must have had a lot of defective D750's at launch.
 
twist said:
Have you tried a torch in live view mode? I also couldnt recreate it easily in natural or house lighting.
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Yep. Torches, lamps, and shooting into the sun. Maybe I just haven't stumbled across the necessary angles yet.
 
shapeshifter said:
The big question is- How many none grey imports have this light leak defect as apposed to genuine UK cameras?

I have said in the past and my experience with grey imports has been that the "trick" is to make the customer think UK taxes and import duties are being avoided so that is why the camera/lens is cheap. When in actual fact the reality is that the camera/equipment has failed the quality control test but is sold on to these dealers in HK at a cheap rate who sell them on using the above mentioned "trick". Some people on these forums have worked out the UK taxes/duties on these cameras and have found that the prices delivered from HK are still lower than the untaxed item! When any of these grey importers are asked "how can you do these cameras so cheap" there is no rational answer forthcoming.

Nikon will sort GC camera but I do wonder if Fred at Nikon has said
" Hey Boss we have some of those failed quality control D750's coming in from the UK what shall we do tell them we are not honoring the warranty as they are grey imports or repair them?"
"Don't you remember Fred when we sell our failed quality control gear cheap to our outlet we said if the buyer complains we will repair it, if the buyers don't notice these small defects or accept them then we have got them away"

Grey import £500 cheaper 30% less than UK! Tell us how you do it grey importers?
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A faults a fault, the light leak occurred on Fuji X-T1 across the board both from UK stock and also grey stock. The Nikon D610 is another example. It has no bearing on quality control or where in the world you purchased it from in my opinion.
 
DigitalRelish said:
Yep. Torches, lamps, and shooting into the sun. Maybe I just haven't stumbled across the necessary angles yet.
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Ditto, can't replicate it and mine is a grey. I'm really happy with it and have also done a lot of lot of long exposures. As I said earlier no issues to report.
 
Supposedly its much easier to spot with certain lenses, 50mm 1.8G is a prime example (ho ho ho).

Ive seen this so called major issue from D610/D700/D750/D810/5D2/5D3/XT1/NEX, thats without digging to hard.
 
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Well this thread escalated quickly.

A suggestion, those that have the issue should send their cameras to Nikon for servicing. Those that don't have the issue should carry on shooting. And those people now shining all sorts of lighting implements into their camera, give up. If it shows up in your normal usage then send it to Nikon for servicing.

What a palava ...
 
Alejandro said:
Well this thread escalated quickly.

A suggestion, those that have the issue should send their cameras to Nikon for servicing. Those that don't have the issue should carry on shooting. And those people now shining all sorts of lighting implements into their camera, give up. If it shows up in your normal usage then send it to Nikon for servicing.

What a palava ...
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Yeah, unless people go looking for it its highly unlikely they will find it. Just enjoy the camera.
 
Willo said:
Mind blown.

Your implying that grey imports are defective Nikon stock, wow Nikon must have had a lot of defective D750's at launch.
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How can these grey importers get these cameras from Nikon and sell them at 30% less than UK cameras when that is less than the duties involved? Also Why can the grey importers tell us how they can supply so cheap. I have returned BOTH lenses I bought grey from HK because they were defective / bellow standard.
They easy way to sort out the truth of the matter would be as I say if the grey importers could show how they make the savings.

With such a massive saving it makes sens to me that they buy them cheaper in the first place from the manufacture. I know of someone who sold hard drives on flebay,he bought a job lot cheap because within the hundred or so where some defective drives. It was not feasible to test them all so they were sold cheap and the buyer did the testing with repairs and refunds issued accordingly.

All the grey importers have to do is explain how they can do these cameras so cheap and there would be less speculation.But they don't?
 
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