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Ok like the feel me both camera's prob the D7000 more slightly...

But the way I see it the D7000 is better spec and cheaper.....

So I would be better getting the D7000 right ?

Have I got this right or wrong what would you lot chose out the two

Thanks
 
Having never even held a canon SLR (film or digital) before I can't really comment.

I can vouch for the D7000 being a very nice camera though.
 
No starting from scratch as all my kit was just for a canon slr and was not that good.

So no lenses thanks
 
chad said:
Ok like the feel me both camera's prob the D7000 more slightly...

But the way I see it the D7000 is better spec and cheaper.....

So I would be better getting the D7000 right ?

Have I got this right or wrong what would you lot chose out the two

Thanks
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I know squat about the D7000, except that it seems to be very well rececived in the marketplace, but I think you have to figure out which camera is right for you. Which features are truly important to you and are not simply additions to a long list of willy waving features? Which camera feels better in your hands? Which control layout do you prefer? Which viewfinder do you prefer? What do you shoot? What do you have at the moment and how will either of these cameras improve usefully on what you have? Just as an example, I drive an 11 year old Nissan. I could get a nice new Ferrari, which on paper might look to be the better car, but it will be no more use to me for nipping down to the shops, taking the dog over to the country park for a walk or loading up with camera gear and lighting equipment. If you did not know my needs how on earth could you recommend me a replacement vehicle?

You don't need to answer those questions here, but I think you should make sure you have the answers for yourself. Without knowing your requirements how can anyone recommend the right solution?
 
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Great advice tdodd, for me personally the decision was based on which system had the lenses I wanted, viewfinder and then body ergonomics.

If you're not comfortable with the way you interact with the camera you'll never fully concentrate on the shot, or be able to let your creativity have it's head, and bodies come and go whilst lenses change much less often and also hold their value better (they are also at least half of the image quality equation). In my opinion image quality, between competing ranges, such as D7000, Pentax K5 and canon 7d for example, are so small at decent print sizes that I wouldn't worry about it. Only when you pixel peep at 100 and 200% do you see any significant difference.

Summing up go glass first and then the body you are most comfortable using,

Des
 
I wish you could hire a camera for the day.....

its hard as you can only go on spec review and limited use in a shop with sale person pushing you...

Prob is the last time I was into photography was 10 years ago and had a enlarger not a computer....

So I am way behind on all this...

I have looked more at canon but just like the look of nikon more

at lower end kit ie d500 is better than the 3100 mid range the nikon I.e 7d and d7000 is better. top top end kit canon are better

But this is just on spec and review so might have got it all wrong

I was and set my hart on D500 as can pick up for 500

But realy like the look of the d7000 I can get it from about 1100 from digitalrev so I know its 600 more But I got this feeling its worth it...

But I don't know buying a camera is worse than a car way more to look at.....
 
I used a D7000 today. Its a fantastic camera. I significant improvement over the D90, which is also an excellent camera. Low light shooting is a big step up from the D90. I was dead set on getting a 7D a year ago, but decided on my D90 instead because it was a lot cheaper and the spec was well suited to my needs, whereas a 7D would have been overkill.
 
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I wish you could hire a camera for the day.....
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You can. Talk to Hire A Camera (www.hireacamera.com, 01435 873028). They're thoroughly reliable.

But don't obsess too much about the camera specifications. There are two other factors which are more important:
1. Do you get on with the camera's control layout?
2. Does the entire system (camera, lenses, flash etc.) suit your needs?

The control layout is a maddeningly personal thing. When I bought my first DSLR I tried the entry-level Canon and Nikon models. I found the Canon totally intuitive and easy to use, and the Nikon bizarre and illogical. But I know people who compare the same two cameras and reached exactly the opposite conclusion.

And never forget that you're buying into a system. They're not equally strong in all areas. For example Canon has a better range of sub-£2000 telephoto lenses, so if you want to shoot birds or wildlife then Canon gives you more options. On the other hand Nikon's flash system is said to be easier to control in multiple-flash scenarios, so if that's your cup of tea then you might want to bias your decision towards Nikon.
 
I'd suggest (like others have), that you make your decision based on handling both cameras, and looking at the lenses the two manufacturers offer. They both offer a fantastic lens range, but both make stand out lenses that aren't equalled by the other brand (for example, the mpe-65mm from canon or the 14-24mm f/2.8 from nikon).
The D7000 might have a slight advantage for ISO performance (I think it's about 1/3-1/2 stop according to DxO tests), and an advantage in dynamic range, but the 7D has more cross type AF points and faster continuous shooting.
In the end, you'll see far more advantage going for the camera that suits your hands and gives you the specific lenses you want, rather than picking one based on looking at specs and numbers. And remember, you are buying into a lens system, so picking one that won't offer you the lenses you want in the future could mean you have to make a costly brand switch sometime in the future.

You can now get a 7D for just under £1k, I'd suggest checking with kerso on here what his current price is.

If you have no need for a super solid body and speed, it might also be worth looking at a 60D or D90, so you can spend more on lenses. Just a thought. And is there any reason why you wouldn't consider the pentax K-5? looks like another great alternative to the 7D/D7000.

Personally, I would choose the 7D. But that is completely irrelevant to you ;)
 
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LOL, digitalrev. Love this show.

IMO, I think choose the camera you like. Both are very nice camera. If you take your camera out a lot and since the weather in the UK always rains and windy, I think 7D's weather proof wins. I'd choose 7d for that reason.
 
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Check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZPNwIMMFik

Think it is a good comparison and fair so worth a look.

They have more videos about each camera on their channel so have a look for those as well
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The problem with videos such as that is that they barely scratch the surface of what the cameras might be used for. As far as camera performance goes I doubt that shooting a model posing on the spot outdoors is the most demanding scenario, and won't help you make a decision if you want to shoot sports like indoor basketball or ice hockey, BIF, handheld macro, star trails, landscapes, sunlit cityscapes (in other words scenes of high dynamic range) and so on. Who cares about performance at 12,800 ISO if you will shoot all day in a studio at 100 ISO?

This is why I maintain that you need to pick the camera to meet your needs, not somebody else's.
 
I think I need to in back to the shop and have another play thanks for your help its a nightmare

I have come to the conclusion that its mainly portrate I want to use camera for

For shots of my boy and family and then second would be landscapes
 
Speaking as the owner of a 7D for 15 months I would say that a 7D is well overspecced for those needs. Also, 18MP in a crop body will be a waste for landscape shots as diffraction will blur the image so much at small apertures that you'd get equally good results from a 10MP camera. I actually ran a test covering that very subject quite recently. It's not that 18MP are a problem. You'll still get excellent pictures. But they are far more than are useful if you are chasing a very extended DOF.

As far as Canon gear goes a 60D will probably be more than sufficient, and to be honest I'm sure you would do very well with a more modest camera than that. Of course, if you've got the money itching to be spent then knock yourself out. The main reason I moved on from the 50D to the 7D was for the new AF system for action shooting, especially BIF. Other things were nice too, but not the reason to upgrade. I don't see an all singing, all dancing AF system being a critical need for family portraits and landscapes. EDIT : Mind you, if shots of your boy includes things like him playing football then that's another matter.

If your needs don't extend to "action" shooting then I suggest you save some money and buy good glass and possibly something to go off camera with some lighting.

What do you have in mind lens wise and with respect to flash?
 
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to tdodd above me

In your situation, I'd look at a D90, 50D or 60D and spend more on lenses and flash.

The D7000 and 7D are undoubtedly better bodies, but the main improvements are in speed and build.
 
I was actually thinking "40D", but I didn't like to say. Were it not for the slightly disappointing quality of the preview image on the LCD, making it hard to judge sharpness (but no worse than the mighty 1D3) then the 40D seems entirely up to the task to me. Sure it would be second hand, but that shouldn't matter.
 
Not thought about glass yet as I feel that is another minefield so was getting bog down with body's...

I have really been thinking what I would use it for like I said mainly for my family but we go on short city breaks a lot and love taking photos at night of buildings lit up at night so that is a big thing .the camera has to be good at low light.

One reason I was moving away from the 500D as I found its not to good with low light situations you agree with this or not?

So out of the 550 and d60 what would be better
 
Personally don't feel the 550D will add much over your 500D.

If you are a night shooter and for the purpose you mentioned. I would consider either a 5D for good low light performance. The D7000 is also known to have less noise than the 7D as it has a larger sensor and less pixels.
 
chad said:
One reason I was moving away from the 500D as I found its not to good with low light situations you agree with this or not?

So out of the 550 and d60 what would be better
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Even a D7000 or K-5, the best APS-C cameras available for ISO performance (marginally better than the 7D), won't be massively better than your 500D.

Probably about 1/2 a stop better. No crop sensor yet is hugely better, only full frames. Faster glass if probably your best option for improving low light performance?


What lenses do you have for your 500D? Probably would make the 7D a cheaper option if you already have lenses for that.
 
Lit buildings at night sounds like the sort of thing you'd (well I would) shoot at 100 or 200 ISO with a tripod (even a mini one perched on a wall). If it's pics of the family against that backdrop then add some flash for fill. High ISO might be required for action shooting, like nighttime football, but buildings don't move much the last time I checked.
 
Have not got a 500d that was the camera I was going to get but got looking into more cameras and it went out of control lol

Is there much difference between the 500d 60d

Thinges is I am not one who likes upgrading I plan on buying one body that will be mid range and will last me

I am all so thinking about doing the ba hons course so need it to do that with but only looking got that at the moment
 
chad said:
Have not got a 500d that was the camera I was going to get but got looking into more cameras and it went out of control lol

Is there much difference between the 500d 60d

Thinges is I am not one who likes upgrading I plan on buying one body that will be mid range and will last me

I am all so thinking about doing the ba hons course so need it to do that with but only looking got that at the moment
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I would say the 60D does add a few things yes and if within your budget I would get it over the 500D. You get the in camera editing (some think this is a gimmick, thats for you to decide) You get the improved controls for focusing etc on the back screen (jog dial), Few extra MPs, better ISO performance. That is all that springs to mind atm. Budgets make choosing alot easier :D
 
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