Nikon D700 vs D7000

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Hiya Folks

I want to got full frame at some point. But I'm struggling to get my head around the pixel issue.

Everyone seems to rave about the D700. But going from a D7000 to 12mp I'm struggling with.

D700 appear to be a real bargain at the moment.

Does anyone/Can anyone with a d700 and a D7000 post a couple of Raw files of the same shot for comparison.

Or can I be pointed in the right direction.

Or just slapped upside the head.


Tar
 
In the real world there is very little difference between 12 and 16mp. The difference in IQ is noticeable though - the D700 is an incredible camera.
 
The23rdman said:
In the real world there is very little difference between 12 and 16mp. The difference in IQ is noticeable though - the D700 is an incredible camera.
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So printing at A2 would still be better with the D700
 
Depends on the quality of the light, lens and processing.
 
Personally I would chose the D700. Think about this, the D800 has 36mp whereas the current Nikon flagship, D4s, has 16mp. If your photographs are being printed at billboard size you need as many pixels as you can get, if not then maybe the controls/ergonomics of the camera along with IQ is more important. More pixels does NOT = better IQ in all circumstances.
Guess it depends what you are using it for.
 
Do note let mpx race full you. Lots of billboards were printed from 8 mpx 20D and looked good. Remember that bigger picture is usually viewed from farer distance. I don't have nikon but heard only good thing about d700. Having crop and FF I would choose FF always except for reach.
 
I already have a D7000 so can jump on that if I need the reach when the OH isn't using it.

As they are so "Cheap" at the moment if I get one and don't get on with it I can always resell.
 
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mattyg said:
I already have a D7000 so can jump on that if I need the reach when the OH isn't using it.

As they are so "Cheap" at the moment if I get one and don't get on with it I can always resell.
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I can't imagine anyone not getting on with one - it's a wonderful camera.
 
going to a full frame camera (as long as you have suitable decent lenses) will be a gamechanger for you.
you will love the D700.
my mrs bought one & she came on in leaps & bounds after that :)
 
The23rdman said:
I can't imagine anyone not getting on with one - it's a wonderful camera.
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Agreed, went through a lot of other cameras incl some current FF's and went back to the D700 (I think I sold you my first one).
 
twist said:
Agreed, went through a lot of other cameras incl some current FF's and went back to the D700 (I think I sold you my first one).
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You did indeed.
 
On a recent safari I had my D700 and a D3200, I swapped my 70-300VR lens between them and eventually 95% of my telephoto shots were with the D700. Despite the lack of crop factor and only half the MP the results where much much better to my eyes.

I had bought the D3200 to see what this high MP malarky was about and ended up totally underwhelmed, I preferred the colours on the D700 too although the Expeed 3 engine on the D3200 was a bit smarter.

I have just bought a D610 and sold the D700 to save a little weight and size, I am not convinced I've done the right thing - I already have pangs of loss and it only got picked up an hour ago.
 
Nawty said:
On a recent safari I had my D700 and a D3200, I swapped my 70-300VR lens between them and eventually 95% of my telephoto shots were with the D700. Despite the lack of crop factor and only half the MP the results where much much better to my eyes.

I had bought the D3200 to see what this high MP malarky was about and ended up totally underwhelmed, I preferred the colours on the D700 too although the Expeed 3 engine on the D3200 was a bit smarter.

I have just bought a D610 and sold the D700 to save a little weight and size, I am not convinced I've done the right thing - I already have pangs of loss and it only got picked up an hour ago.
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I could never use a D610 simply because of the back button layout. Left eye dominant and back button focus leads to a thumb nail in the eye and that's a bad thing when your a guitarist and have girly nails!
 
12MP full frame, with good lenses, will look sharper than 16mp from a crop camera. I'd not be so confident making that statement if you were comparing the D700 to the D7100, as the 24MP and no AA filter does make a difference... just, but D7000 vs. D700... I'd go with the D700.
 
Pookeyhead said:
12MP full frame, with good lenses, will look sharper than 16mp from a crop camera. I'd not be so confident making that statement if you were comparing the D700 to the D7100, as the 24MP and no AA filter does make a difference... just, but D7000 vs. D700... I'd go with the D700.
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If I was printing a2 sizes regularly I'd want a camera with as many quality MP as I could find specifically for that task. I'd still own a D700 though.
 
The23rdman said:
I can't imagine anyone not getting on with one - it's a wonderful camera.
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Not very scientific but have to agree...

I have access to a 7000 and a 700, it pains me when i have to use the 7000 for no other reason than it just doesn't feel "right". Having been used to the layout of a 300/700 for so long i just can't get to grips with the D7000.

As you say you'd still have the 7000 to keep I'd personally would take a decent 700 in an instant if funds allowed..
 
D700 Buy it!
I did and never looked back (Well thats a lie because i couldnt sell my D300). For me it was a natural progression from the 300.... BUT Wow what a difference it has made.
I have always said, its who stands behind the camera, and would never have agreed that a camera can make you a better Photographer but the D700 was a game changer for me. If you can get hold of one to take a few shots with and get the feel of it, i'm sure you will love it too.
People have said to me its ONLY 12MP what do they know! It also has great low light performance.
Obviously you will need to purchase some good lenses... goes without saying, Thats the only sting in the tail (I told SWMBO its an investment which is true! ish).

I think if you buy one you will not regret it
 
Lenses aren't an issue. I've got a 70-200 vrII and a 105. I've also had my eye the others to complete the "Trilogy". After selling my 12-24 f4. 35mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.8 That just dont get used at all.

My D7000 is gripped so I think I'll have to get a gripped D700 or it'll feel a little small.

I think I may try and rent or borrow one for a weekend.


@Pookeyhead.

A mate bought his 1st DSLR last year a D7100 and his shots do look good (his airshow shots seem to hit the mark everytime) Even using my old 70-300. With the extra mp's over mine they do look better than my 70-200 VRII.
 
Sorted then!
 
Each time I look at a D700 shot I always think how hard each pixel is working, always pin sharp at 100%. Whereas with a crop body there's always the feeling that the pixels aren't working as hard. If that makes sense. So there's more to it than simple sensor Mpix specs. I've never had to do it, but I think the D700 would upres nicely if enormous sizes were paramount.

Shame you sold your 50mm 1.8, it's a great lens to use on a D700, makes the camera seem almost small!
 
Not sold it yet. I have to sell some before buying the trilogy
 
i have a d7100 and have never really got on with it versus the D300 ....... button layout on D300 is much better ........ but U1 and U2 are good on the D7100

just got a D700 and I'm pleased, so much so, I cannot see me using the D7100 very much although most of my shots are small birds

The D300 and D700 just feel "right" and are user friendly ....... IQ from lower megga p's are not really an issue and if you add a grip it is more comfortable to use

a D400 would be good for DX users and a 16 megga pixies FX would also be interesting at the same price as the D800 ........ effectively a cut down D4S at an affordable price
 
I have a D700 & D7100 and I much prefer the D700.

IQ and performance wise, the D700 is in another league from the D7100. The only thing the D7100 has over my D700 is more resolution, better LCD, an extra card slot and video (none of which are important to me). I don't really get on with the D7100 as I find it struggles maintaining focus with moving subjects, the sensor is too dependant on very good light and little movement for pin sharp shots - whereas the D700 is the complete opposite.

The D700 is just a pleasure to use and great value for money these days.
 
Grab the D700. It is an amazing beast in low light and the full frame gives is much better IQ.
 
I have, yes.
 
Ok Cost aside D700 vs D800 can the D800 do everything the D700 can
 
From experience no..
Without going into specs and focus points / system i found the 800 struggled compared with the older 700 with locking onto anything moving and obviously more so in low light, this is what i need. The D700 was much more suited in those circumstances for me. I'm sure some of the sports / wildlife guys will be able to give you a more comprehensive answer!
You may well get different opinions from mine and really it'll depend what you shoot or use it for but for me i'll stick with the 700 and say thank you to Nikon for the loan.
 
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