Nikon D600 / D610 Official Users thread - Anything D6x0 related

if I was buying a new card for my D600 then I would go for a 16GB or 32GB at 95mb/s. The fact that I already have 45mb/s cards and I do shoot lots of high frame shooting, I am more than happy with what I am getting from my cards
 
I had a 95mb card, and the possible shooting series isn't noticeably longer than with a 45mb card. I have no explanation for it, but IMO it's not worth the price to get a 95mb card.

I have a question too. When I cleaned my sensor the first time (after 368 pictures taken one of these spots appeared in the images), I locked up the mirror, cleaned the sensor, and everything was fine.

A few days later I wanted to lock up the mirror again to check with a magnifier glass, because I had seen small white fluff stuck to the plastic in front of the sensor, on the sides, and wanted to vacuum that out.

The mirror locked up, but while I was still looking at things with a magnifier, the mirror came down. So I remounted the lens, locked it up again, started looking again, and the mirror came down again after a while. I tried it a few times more, and the lockup periods before the mirror released got shorter and shorter.

The battery had 95% at that time, so I replaced it with a fully charged one (both Nikon original), but the mirror kept coming down.

This is with the new firmware 1.01. Does anyone know what could cause this?

Thanks for all advice in advance
 
Hello.
Just checking in and bookmarking that's all.
 
Have to say that I'm a bit surprised about a sensor clean after 300 or so shots.
My 300s has over 10k and I've never touched it, and these no dust that I can see.
 
Have to say that I'm a bit surprised about a sensor clean after 300 or so shots.
Yep. When I bought the D600 I did so knowing about the sensor dirt issues, and bought it anyway because I'm not afraid of cleaning a sensor. But when the first quite big spot appeared in a sunrise image (focus to infinite, apertures between 5.0 and 11 and the spot was clearly visible on all of them) I also thought that this is very early. Inacceptably early in my humble opinion, to say the truth. But, cleaning is easy, and it's a great camera, so far I'm still glad I bought it.

I hope the sensor stays clean for a bit longer now. I have to say, though, that is was just one visible spot. That said, I cannot understand how those who complained about the issue first and posted their sensor dirt images could possibly wait until their sensors were as dirty as their evidence shots showed, with dozens of spots.

My spot was very small on the sensor, but easily visible on a fullsize picture.
 
I'd say spots showed on mine after 500 or so shots. As above, I bought the camera with full knowledge of the issue. I've lived with it for a couple thousand shots now and am going to get it cleaned this week. Hopefully it won't come back....
 
Hi

Bought mine with knowledge of the issue. Plenty of debris in left hand corner after less than 400 shots. Now all gone after a clean.
 
Easy enough to clean and maintain so don't let it detract from how good the camera is. After reading all the D600 dust threads I was surprised how many other makes and models have suffered from the same issues.
 
Diego - so after the first spot appeared there were not too many new spots appearing between that moment and now? Would be nice if that happened to me too.

I saw two different types of spots - white fluffy ones, which were mostly stuck to the black plastic of the sides of the tunnel where the mirror resides, while of of those was on the sensor. And one black spot on the sensor. The size of both types was identical. The white fluff on the sensor was not visible in the photos. The black fluff in the pictures was perfectly circular, in reality using the magnifier glass it looked like the white fluffy ones.

The white fluff stuck to the sides of that tunnel I vacuumed out. I probably should have tried to vacuum the black thing from the sensor too, but I wet-cleaned it right away.

What are you guys using for the wet cleaning? I used VisibleDust's Smear Away. It cleaned the sensor nicely, but I had to use 3 additional swabs to clean the smear marks of that liquid from the sensor. I wonder whether there is another liquid which is more easily removed?

Under a magnifier glass, there were in the end no smearmarks visible, but is there a way to check that really no residue at all has remained on the sensor (or rather, the low pass filter)?

Unfortunately, while checking the sensor with a magnifier glass (and very fortunately not before that) my camera's mirror lockup feature stopped working. First the mirror came down once. I locked it up again, and after a while it came down again. This process repeated with short and shorter intervals, until the mirror wouldn't lock up at all anymore. The menu item is selectable, but pressing the shutter button doesn't do anything.

I've reset all camera settings, but to no avail. Batteries are always 100% full. If anyone has an idea what that could be (I'm using the new 1.06 firmware version), I'd be grateful for advice.
 
Diego - so after the first spot appeared there were not too many new spots appearing between that moment and now? Would be nice if that happened to me too.


Well a fair few appeared initially. Then I did a rocket blow and used some sensor wipes myself and that got rid of all apart from some in the extreme top right corner (was my first attempt cleaning the sensor :shrug: ). After that some more appeared. Seemed like the corner one are more stubborn and others dotted around more randomly can be blown away. That's my experience anyway.


This time I've took it to a professional who, luckily for me, lives a couple of doors away.


I'll be shooting a lot this coming weekend, and a fair bit a narrow apertures so if they're gonna come back, I'll know soon enough.
 
Hi Diego, thanks for the info - and did any new spots appear?

Btw, my mirror lockup works again. I tried it and it worked. The battery wasn't even full (as opposed to during the time when it would not lock up anymore) and I did nothing different from the last time I tried. I have no idea why it works again.

That said, no new spots for me after abut 100 shots.
 
Not yet. Only taken a couple of shots to test it was clean. I'll report back after a weekend in the Lakes :)
 
Sorry if this thread doesnt belong here (feel free to move mods) but im on the verge of buying a D600, a curve ball has been thrown my way in the form of a low use D3 for similar money....

Does anyone have any experience using both?

My work is quite varied as freelance, lens wise it will be used with a 24-70 f2.8 and a 70-200 f2.8

Thanks in advance :thumbs:
 
The built quality of the D600 and focus system are nowhere near what you get on the D3. On the other hand, the D600 IMO has the edge over the D3 when it comes to image quality and obviously resolution. The D600 also has video.
 
There are I think 3 different D3's, D3, D3S and D3X, but you probably know that better than I do. What I can say about the D600 as a non-pro user - I've had it for two months, have taken a little over 600 pictures:
- image quality is excellent
- the D600 shines in both low-light and very bright light (shots into the morning sun may need a little processing during the RAW development but the detail is all there, lakes in bright sunlight with a dark building, dark trees and man-high straw-colour shoreline grasses with all details there and no highlights blown. But, a friend who has a D3 says that the D3's low-light capability is even better
- the RAW colours are realistic, the D600 does not exaggerate anything but also doesn't miss anything in terms of colour
- it is very fast, both after power-on and the AF, although with very low contrast or in darkness the AF does need manual help from time to time despite a pretty strong AF help light
- the built-in flash is pretty powerful for a built-in flash
- there was an apparently oily dirt spot on the sensor of my D600 after 365 exposures which could not be removed by the built-in sensor cleaning feature. I wet-cleaned the sensor, and in the process I saw that there were also several (small) white flakes clinging to the mirror tunnel, some of which I could vacuum out, but one or two I could not
- the mirror lockup mechanism stopped working after the first mirror cleaning (mirror came down despite full battery, luckily I was only looking inside with a magnifier at that time, and refused to lock up properly thereafter), and then a few days later suddenly worked again (I hope it remains this way)
- not heavy or bulky at all, I was looking at buying an Olympus OMD because I was worried about this aspect, and now that I have the D600 I can say its size or weight do not bother me in the least
- the camera feels solid enough
- there are enough buttons and wheels for quick adjustments and they are in general ergonomically well positioned, I think as a pro you will be able to make all changes to AF, metering etc. quickly enough
- the AF has different ways of following an object, both in terms of technology and how you do it in terms of pressing a button and which, and these different options to me appear to make sense. There are also plenty of metering options which in my opinion make sense too
- in general the software side options look pretty professional to me, there are plenty for all sorts of scenarios
- you can shoot up to 5 images per second, how many depends on the SD card, but even with a 95 Mbit card for me I couldn't really shoot long series. Also, the D600 has two SD card slots, but they cannot work like a RAID 0, or like saving one image to card one and the next image to card 2 (would be nice for shooting longer series), that seems a bit like a missed opportunity to me
- the menus are in my opinion easy and intuitively to use, and this is my first Nikon

I probably could come up with a few more details, but suffice to say as a summary, there were a few small things, like the spot on the sensor and the mirror lockup issue which should not have happened, but in general this is a great camera. Taking pictures is really fun. The camera during everyday use has so far been reliable, the results were predictable, it is always ready when I need it, easy to use, gives me a lot of options to tweak things but also allows me to point and shoot if I want, takes great pictures - I'm glad I bought it.

I hope this is helpful.
 
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Thank you very much for your detailed feedback AchimT :) really appreciate it!

Im popping down to my local camera shop tomorrow to have a play :) I have a feeling i will be coming back with something!
 
So, came back from my local camera shop with:
D600
MBD14 grip
24-70 2.8
70-300 VR
Hoya UV filters
New 32gb card

I am one happy man today!! just had a quick play and the 24-70 is just amazing!

At first I crapped myself looking at the buttons (ive been used to a D5000!) but actually within 10-15minutes it was all making sense.

Looking forward to have a good play this weekend!! :)

Thanks for the advice guys
 
So, came back from my local camera shop with:
D600
MBD14 grip
24-70 2.8
70-300 VR
Hoya UV filters
New 32gb card

I am one happy man today!! just had a quick play and the 24-70 is just amazing!

At first I crapped myself looking at the buttons (ive been used to a D5000!) but actually within 10-15minutes it was all making sense.

Looking forward to have a good play this weekend!! :)

Thanks for the advice guys

Congratulations. Its a great camera. Enjoy :thumbs:
 
Spots have come back. A good dozen or so.

Gutted. Got a 3 day paid job next week.
 
Spots have come back. A good dozen or so.

Gutted. Got a 3 day paid job next week.

Oil or Dust?
Dust is easy a rocket blower and sensor brush. If it's oil spots it will need a swab or two.
 
Any advice on a basic zoom?
Looking at the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 and the old Nikon 24-85mm AFS

Can get both around £200 so just wondering if anyone had any experience with either, cheers.
 
Harrybeeee said:
Any advice on a basic zoom?
Looking at the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 and the old Nikon 24-85mm AFS

Can get both around £200 so just wondering if anyone had any experience with either, cheers.

My 28-75 f2.8 non BIM is glued to my d800 - see my Flickr for recent examples. Cracking lens. Be sure to get the non built in motor version though.

S
 
Spots have come back. A good dozen or so.
Hi Diego, for me too, after around 200 shots. And many more than the first time. I wonder if it is maybe not oil at all, but some rub-off stuff, because if it were oil, it should be a lot initially, and less later on. Cleaned the sensor again today, luckily my mirror lockup keeps working.
 
Hi Diego, for me too, after around 200 shots. And many more than the first time. I wonder if it is maybe not oil at all, but some rub-off stuff, because if it were oil, it should be a lot initially, and less later on. Cleaned the sensor again today, luckily my mirror lockup keeps working.

Annoying isn't it. I'll try the rocket blower first.

I've got some sensor wipes but I didn't make the best job of it last time :(
 
If any D600 users would like to change to a D700 I have one for trade in the classifieds
 
If any D600 users would like to change to a D700 I have one for trade in the classifieds
Thanks, but I'd rather ask you, how happy are you with the D800?

I read that the high resolution causes noise reduction artefacts to be visible in the images. Is this true? The D800 seems to have great colours and detail when I look at test images, but I wonder, are there drawbacks as some reports on the Internet say?

And, does it have sensor dirt problems? Some users say it has.

The reason for my asking is that I'm thinking about switching from the D600 to a D800, but am not sure I'd be improving my situation?
 
The D800 is the camera I have always wanted. I never shoot beyond ISO 3200 so I have no issues with noise performance. Have tested it at 6400 and its still more than usable. I can't see me upgrading my camera body for quite awhile!

Also I haven't had any issues with dust/dirt on the sensor. I'm pretty OCD with making sure my gear is perfect so I've ran it through every test under the sun lol.
 
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Hi Tony, thanks for the reply. I'm honestly tempted. I never shoot above ISO 800 (maybe at one point in the future but it'll be on rare occasions). But I read that apparently the high res causes the noise reduction mechanisms to show artefacts. But I wonder, when you shoot at ISO 100 to 400, do these NR mechanisms even kick in to any major effect?

Can I ask you, did you buy your camera in the UK, and was it made in Japan or in Thailand? I read that maybe the production site may make a difference.

I still have a week to decide, so I'll gather some more info this week, and decide on Thursday.

That said, the D600 is also a great camera, I felt at home with it from the start, if performs great, and I don't even mind the sensor dirt issue in general. Cleaning the sensor is easy enough. But you immediately see those dots in the image really clearly, I hadn't been aware of that before buying. The sensor dirt images on the Internet show so many dots that I thought most of them must be invisible in the image, or how else could anyone have let their sensor get so full of speckles?

But, I see them right away. The last 3 speckles I couldn't even see on the sensor using a magnifier glass. Nonetheless, after a sensor cleaning, they are gone.

Thanks again for the info!
 
No noise really whatsoever at them ISO settings.400-800 clean as a whistle!

Mine is made in Japan. They're all made there! One factory makes the D4 / D800 and I bought it in the uk.

It's an amazing piece of kit
 
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Thanks for the info Tony and architectfadi. I'm still reading reviews and other info on the Internet, because

- for one, there have been sensor dirt issues reported about the d800 as well, although I am under the impression these are exceptional cases and the sensor dirt doesn't seem to return after cleaning

- and secondly, I am worried about size. The d600 has until now been the max size I could imagine to carry with me. The d800 is quite a bit bulkier, according to the spec sheet. Is that noticeable in everyday use?
 
I like the ergonomics of the camera. I like prime lenses on it so size isn't really an issue!
 
The D800 is a bit bulkier and heavier. It feels solid in the hands though. A tap on the underside of each camera and you can tell the difference immediately.

I love the light weight of the D600 as much as I love the solidity of the D800.

As for sensor dust of on the D800, I have never had any issues with mine and can't remember any of the D800 users complaining about it.
 
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