Nikon D5 review

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Im starting to get interested in a D5 but wondered if anyone has used a D5 and D4s and could compare them both. Interested in high iso noise to see if the D5 is much better than the D4s. I suspect the focussing is slightly better/quicker on the D5. Anything else worth the upgrade to the D5 from the D4s? Maybe i could just wait for a D5s. Cheers.
 
markyboy.1967 said:
Im starting to get interested in a D5 but wondered if anyone has used a D5 and D4s and could compare them both. Interested in high iso noise to see if the D5 is much better than the D4s. I suspect the focussing is slightly better/quicker on the D5. Anything else worth the upgrade to the D5 from the D4s? Maybe i could just wait for a D5s. Cheers.
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If you have the D4s, then the D5 is a "questionable" upgrade IMO. There is no significant improvement in noise at moderate high ISOs in low light (coming from the D4)... main advantage there is a little more resolution. There is a *decrease* in DR at low ISO's (not generally a problem). The AF is better, but you probably won't notice it in 95+% of situations. And the AF is different, it takes a bit of relearning to get the most out of it.

Initially, I actually considered selling my D5 and reverting to the D4/s. I would not be upgrading from the D4s to the D5... IMO a D850 or D500 make more sense (depending on needs).
 
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Just to add, above ~ ISO 6400 the D5 is notably better in noise handling/DR etc., but it is still noisy. I still don't want to use those high ISO's unless I absolutely have to...
 
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Just to add, above ~ ISO 6400 the D5 is notably better in noise handling/DR etc., but it is still noisy. I still don't want to use those high ISO's unless I absolutely have to...
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I've also been hoping to get a D5. For weddings. The better the high ISO and low light AF the better for me. I'd be wanting to shoot comfortably at 12800 and ideally one stop over that. From images I've seen 12800 is superb but are you not finding that to be the case Steven?
 
ryanyboy said:
I've also been hoping to get a D5. For weddings. The better the high ISO and low light AF the better for me. I'd be wanting to shoot comfortably at 12800 and ideally one stop over that. From images I've seen 12800 is superb but are you not finding that to be the case Steven?
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Nope... if you do noise reduction and/or downsample, images above 6400 can be quite usable, otherwise not so much.
But this really depends upon the available light more than anything... I've taken clean images at ISO 12,800 w/ a D4. So we really should be talking about the relevant light level/EV... IMO/experience at EV's below ~12 the noise becomes problematic... that's most indoor artificial light situations and just after sunset/before sunrise/deep shade. If you are using shorter FL's and can use longer SS's, then your results will probably vary *a little*.
 
You can download and inspect RAW and JPEG comparison at every ISO of D4, D4s and D5 from dpreview website.

I had a look at 12,800 RAW and it looks to me like the D4s and D5 are noticeably better than a D4 but the D4s and D5 it is much harder to tell and difference, maybe a little but I could never tell the apart.

The image they use looks like this.

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GTG said:
You can download and inspect RAW and JPEG comparison at every ISO of D4, D4s and D5 from dpreview website.

I had a look at 12,800 RAW and it looks to me like the D4s and D5 are noticeably better than a D4 but the D4s and D5 it is much harder to tell and difference, maybe a little but I could never tell the apart.

The image they use looks like this.

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And make sure to select the low light setting... it's more indicative of the type of performance you can expect when you need high ISOs.
 
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GTG said:
You can download and inspect RAW and JPEG comparison at every ISO of D4, D4s and D5 from dpreview website.

I had a look at 12,800 RAW and it looks to me like the D4s and D5 are noticeably better than a D4 but the D4s and D5 it is much harder to tell and difference, maybe a little but I could never tell the apart.

The image they use looks like this.

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I had a good look at the ISO comparisons. The D4s and d5 do look very similar. But worth remembering the the D5 has the more pixels.
 
ryanyboy said:
I had a good look at the ISO comparisons. The D4s and d5 do look very similar. But worth remembering the the D5 has the more pixels.
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My problem with those examples (and most on the web) is that the noise performance is affected by the available light (density/EV/photon shot noise)... In order to see the true performance the light level needs to be varied/reduced as the ISO increases; not reduce the exposure with SS/Ap... there IS a difference.
If you use the low light option you can see the difference when you compare the lighter/darker sides of the image.

Edit: most web examples that use SS/Ap to reduce the recorded light are valid in the context of using ISO in order to get different/better settings. That's just different from increasing the ISO because you are already against the wall, which is what we are usually concerned with. IME, varying the SS/Ap generally gives 1-2 stops better performance (maybe more, camera/situation dependent).
 
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ryanyboy said:
I had a good look at the ISO comparisons. The D4s and d5 do look very similar. But worth remembering the the D5 has the more pixels.
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Yes quite true. If I remember the D3s and D4 were also very similar iso performance but 4mp extra
 
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