Nikon 800mm 6.3 PF Z Lens announced

nandbytes said:
No thanks
Makes it pointless using mirrorless as sigma art lens are huge and bulky.
My Sony 24GM and 35GM are fairly small light and sharper than sigma art versions. My sigma 85mm f1.4 DN is also considerably smaller and lighter while being optically better than the DSLR version.
Not to mention the subpar AF I'll get with FTZ with 3rd party lenses. Sony's AF motors are top notch
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Maybe wait for Z 35, 24, and 85 1.4's. They are a staple for most 35mm format makers.

Bear in mind you will lose some resolution going from the Sony A1 and some frame rate as well.
 
There is another smaller 400mm prime lens too on the roadmap. A 400mm f4 PF perhaps? Like the canon 400DO?

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(And a 85mm prime which is my most used prime lens)

Now just waiting for a smaller Z body (i.e. smaller than Z9) with 3D AF.

Exciting stuff!
 
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nandbytes said:
There is another smaller 400mm prime lens too on the roadmap. A 400mm f4 PF perhaps? Like the canon 400DO?

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(And a 85mm prime which is my most used prime lens)

Now just waiting for a smaller Z body (i.e. smaller than Z9) with 3D AF.

Exciting stuff!
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Z7III or the rumoured Z8. I'd say the above lens line up looks very comprehensive to my mind. Maybe a Z mount, 300 2.8 and 500 F4 or 500 F5.6 but with various TC's etc I think you could get there. For a landscape shooter like me I'd have a tough time making a choice between 14-24, 24-70 and 70-200 or 14-24, 24-120, 100-400 or 14-30, 28-75 and 70-200 etc. There's three trinities right there. After the 70-200 2.8 trinities you can add a 4th 200-600 also.

Question though - other than the 800 6.3 what's pulling you from Sony with the A1 and A7Riv are both very good bodies if you like the size/form layout of these cameras.
 
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SFTPhotography said:
Question though - other than the 800 6.3 what's pulling you from Sony with the A1 and A7Riv are both very good bodies if you like the size/form layout of these cameras.
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three main things:
- The lack of innovation on the telephoto lenses. My 200-600mm is certainly excellent but I am after an affordable light tele prime like the canon 400mm DOii or the new Nikons.
- no good firmware features that improve usability. For example focus stacking, in body focus limiter etc. Nikon has focus bracketing already and just today they added pre-buffer feature to Z9 with FW update v2.0 which is an amazing feature for shooting action. Sony used to have some of these feature available on older bodies and some reason they seems to be losing more and more features with newer bodies which seems crazy!
- bad customer service for anyone not on pro support (apparently Nikon isn't much better but canon, fuji and Sigma are amazing at this)

Some minor annoyances:
- crap touch interface
- IBIS not as good as canon
- you have to select bird eyeAF and animal eyeAF separately while canon seems to manage just fine with just one setting for all animals
- articulating screen not as good as their old own bodies like A77/A99 which had an amazing design and IMO best articulating screens.

I do like the size of the A1. would never buy the Z9 for this reason. Also Z9 lacks mechanical shutter which is not good.

Canon R5 is my next choice of body. But I am holding out for a Z7III and a 85mm f1.2 from Nikon.

May be sony will fix the above two main issues, they can all be address with new lens or FW. But for some reason I don't think this will happen.
 
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SFTPhotography said:
Z7III or the rumoured Z8. I'd say the above lens line up looks very comprehensive to my mind. Maybe a Z mount, 300 2.8 and 500 F4 or 500 F5.6 but with various TC's etc I think you could get there. For a landscape shooter like me I'd have a tough time making a choice between 14-24, 24-70 and 70-200 or 14-24, 24-120, 100-400 or 14-30, 28-75 and 70-200 etc.
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Lenses are an interesting one.... I prefer the Sony options right now apart from tele range.
I can have a travel setup with just two lenses - 16-35mm f2.8 and 35-150mm f2-2.8 which will cover me for the most part. Throw in 200-600mm if necessary.
I also really like f1.4 primes - 24mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4 and Sigma 85mm f1.4 DN. Small and light f1.4 lenses with incredible class leading sharpness.
The 70-200mm GMii is also incredibly light and sharp.

Too bad the very long telephoto lenses aren't there for me :(
 
nandbytes said:
Lenses are an interesting one.... I prefer the Sony options right now apart from tele range.
I can have a travel setup with just two lenses - 16-35mm f2.8 and 35-150mm f2-2.8 which will cover me for the most part. Throw in 200-600mm if necessary.
I also really like f1.4 primes - 24mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4 and Sigma 85mm f1.4 DN. Small and light f1.4 lenses with incredible class leading sharpness.
The 70-200mm GMii is also incredibly light and sharp.

Too bad the very long telephoto lenses aren't there for me :(
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Couldn't you adapt some of the excellent EF mount big whites to your Sony.

Canon have some stunners and they do "play nicely" on the Sonys.

They also play nice on the R5 with its eye AF might be the choice of wild life shooters.


I do like primes but if the stopped down IQ centre to edge sharpness is near as dammit the same with the zoom - I'll just take zooms.

I expect the Z7iii/Z8 to be "the one".
 
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Couldn't you adapt some of the excellent EF mount big whites to your Sony.

Canon have some stunners and they do "play nicely" on the Sonys.

They also play nice on the R5 with its eye AF might be the choice of wild life shooters.


I do like primes but if the stopped down IQ centre to edge sharpness is near as dammit the same with the zoom - I'll just take zooms.

I expect the Z7iii/Z8 to be "the one".
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Unfortunately the AF isn't quite as good with adapted glass on Sony. It's fine for slower moving subjects but for wildlife I'd certainly want a native like performance.

On R5 EF glass do seem to adapt very well indeed.

None of the systems are quite there yet on their own.

Sensor - Sony
Shorter Primes (14mm to 135mm) - Sony/sigma
Longer primes (200mm+) - Nikon/canon
Zooms - Sony/tamron/Nikon
IBIS - canon
AF - I think the top three are about equal now give or take.
EVF - Sony
Body size - Sony
Ergonomics - Nikon
Mechanical shutter - Sony (1/400s flash sync is nice)
Software features - Nikon/Panasonic
Adapter support - canon (for EF glass)

If someone can combine all these into a camera system that'd be perfect for me :D
 
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nandbytes said:
Unfortunately the AF isn't quite as good with adapted glass on Sony. It's fine for slower moving subjects but for wildlife I'd certainly want a native like performance.

On R5 EF glass do seem to adapt very well indeed.

None of the systems are quite there yet on their own.

Sensor - Sony
Shorter Primes (14mm to 135mm) - Sony/sigma
Longer primes (200mm+) - Nikon/canon
Zooms - Sony/tamron/Nikon
IBIS - canon
AF - I think the top three are about equal now give or take.
EVF - Sony
Body size - Sony
Ergonomics - Nikon
Mechanical shutter - Sony (1/400s flash sync is nice)
Software features - Nikon/Panasonic
Adapter support - canon (for EF glass)

If someone can combine all these into a camera system that'd be perfect for me :D
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No such thing as a perfect camera system. Not even in 645z land or GFX land. Nikon Z with a higher resolution body with the features of the Z9 plus a mechanical shutter with the trinity of 2.8's would pretty much get me there.
 
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