Nikon 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G or AF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G

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as i'm thinking of slowly upgrading, and hope to get a nikon d80

which lens would you choose :

Nikon 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED DX
or
Nikon AF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G IF ED

as these two are options on the kit lens i think?

what does the f4.5 and 5.6 mean again?
 
I'd buy body only if you really think you need a new body and stick with your current glass before upgrading to better quality lenses at a later date. To be honest you'd probably see more benefit from sticking good glass on your existing body.
 
I use my 18-70 all the time and can not recommend it enough. I went for this over the 18-135 when I was purchasing my D80. Hope that helps.
 
ok thanks.

i would keep my body, but it needs fixing (due to flash), and thinking might try and sell it as a complete kit with lens to get back as much as i can.

in real life, what is the difference in aperature in picture finish? as the extra range could be handy, without a seperate lens.
 
in real life, what is the difference in aperature in picture finish? as the extra range could be handy, without a seperate lens.

I appreciate this is going to sound a bit off but if your asking questions like this I think you would be best off putting your camera purchases on hold and buying and reading Understanding Exposure once you understand what all the numbers on a lens mean and how they effect your pictures you will be much better able to decide what direction to go with your new lens.

The simple answer on the aperture is it effects the amount of light entering the lens and the DOF in the final shot. This will effect you ability to shoot in low light without flash and use a shallow DOF to isolate a subject or for other creative effect.
 
thanks for the info.

put my hand up, still very new to dslr and photography.

i understand the aperature and low lighting without flash.
but i haven't really grasped the difference within the f4.5 and 5.6, becuase I haven't really seen or have a feel of the difference (if that makes sense), only having my 18-55mm DX F3.5-5.6G.
 
1. Buy and read the book.

2. Buy the 18-70 and sell the 18-55 as you won't need it.

Your longer lens means you don't need the 135 option and the 18-70 really is a good lens for the money.
 
I bought a Sigma 18-50 f2.8 but went back to the Nikon 18 -70 as I think it is a tad sharper.
 
without wishing to put a dampner on this, what makes you want a D80?

What i mean is if you are really new to this, just sell the 18-55 and get the 18-70 if you want a bit more length, not that there is really anything wrong with the 18-55, and practice.

The D40 is a better imaging device to the D80, its got better noise control, newer processing and is not worth selling...

Amazon do the D40 kit for £220 new, so with a broken flash you would be lucky to see over £100 for it.

Keep the Camera, buy the book, shoot, learn, then buy a D90 when you are ready.
 
I've got an 18-70mm and a 55-200mm. For most of my shooting I use the 18-70, which produces excellent crisp, sharp pictures.
 
Another nod to the 18-70 DX, I actually went back to that lens after a flirtation with the 16-85 VR - optically the 18-70 DX is really very good indeed.

It was the first of the many 18-xxx kit lenses, and still arguably the best.
 
18-70mm - great lens and my main lens for magazine work. As good as my old Canon 17-40 f/4
 
I had the choice of the 18-70 or 18-135 when I bought my D80, the longer lens was about £20 more and whilst it doesn't get as good a write up as the 18-70, I got £70 more for it secondhand than the 18-70s were going for when I sold it on....
 
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