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Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen

I've just picked up an EOS 3000V (35mm) with 28-90mm and 90-300mm lenses - my first SLR. I'm stunned by the piccies it's been taking of my children!

(like this: http://sittingbourneSPAMerver.com/downloads/photos/Image1-10.jpg)

Anyway I also bought a canon 135mm f2.8 SF and a canon 50mm f1.8.

I don't intend on getting much more kit (am a total beginner) but just looking for advice on which lens and f-stops to use for group photos for example at a wedding?

Thanks!
 
Hello,

My main reason for the purchase over my old digital (Fuji S6500) was to get full-frame and the DOF control it affords. The whole lot has cost me £200 - there's no way I can afford a full-frame DSLR.

So, in summary, I'll be sticking with film!

Cheers
James.
 
pearce_jj said:
Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen

I've just picked up an EOS 3000V (35mm) with 28-90mm and 90-300mm lenses - my first SLR. I'm stunned by the piccies it's been taking of my children!

(like this: http://sittingbourneSPAMerver.com/downloads/photos/Image1-10.jpg)

Anyway I also bought a canon 135mm f2.8 SF and a canon 50mm f1.8.

I don't intend on getting much more kit (am a total beginner) but just looking for advice on which lens and f-stops to use for group photos for example at a wedding?

Thanks!
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Brave man! Film would terrify me and my wallet. Great shot of your kid :) Why are you strictly wanting full frame?

G.
 
Hi Gary, thanks for taking the time to reply.

I just like the DOF with 35mm, and I'm on a tight budget, OK a extreme but the massive cropping from my 1/7" CCD S6500 was a real pain. Plus the camera was really cheap (clearly!) and film is cheap too, 20 pack of 36's from 7dayshops is £21. Yes developing costs but its quite exciting waiting for them! Also the quality is amazing and it means snapping more selectively than with digital - which I've kept for messing about with of course.

Cheers!
 
surely the expence of developing the images and lack of control in post processing is more of a frustration than the crop factor.
I have to say i came to digital as a complete beginner and to this day have never used film, or a full frame camera, so cos i havent used one i feel no frustration in the crop factor as its all i know.
i know its horses for courses and all that , but i just dont get why folk would go back to something that gives them less control and more expence?
I am certainly not knocking this but am seriously interested in why

Fi
 
Have to admit, you can't beat the 'feel' of film. It just has that wonderful look and texture and everything :p

I would recommend using an f stop of about 5.6 or 7.1.

Ideally, for group shots, you'd want something a bit wider than 50mm.

Something about 30mm.
 
Fionab said:
surely the expence of developing the images and lack of control in post processing is more of a frustration than the crop factor.
I have to say i came to digital as a complete beginner and to this day have never used film, or a full frame camera, so cos i havent used one i feel no frustration in the crop factor as its all i know.
i know its horses for courses and all that , but i just dont get why folk would go back to something that gives them less control and more expence?
I am certainly not knocking this but am seriously interested in why

Fi
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Shoot film, and then you'll know why. Its not something you can explain!
 
Thanks all, especially for the lens and f-stop info.

Yes film just feels and looks so good, even when developed even at Boots! Digital of course has so much merrit but it just ain't the same, certainly not for £200 anyway.

The problem with cropping is that it also effectively amplifies your f-stops because otherwise you're looking at a crop of the full frame. When I photograph my two children at the park, like the shot above (thanks for the positive comments:)) I don't want railings and everyone elses children in the background.

The above shot I think was about 80mm F5.6, can't wait to get some results back from the 135mm F2.8!!

Thanks all
 
film is good film is good film is good ( sorry i just like saying that phrase ) oh and did i say i like film ??
 
A fellow Sittingbourner... welcome aboard mate!
 
Hello and WELCOME!:welcome::welcome::welcome:

I have always considered myself somewhere beyond a seasoned amateur in film shooting and b&w darkroom work and when I moved on to digital (very sceptically at first) I must admit I love it now. The bank manager doesn't but they will with time:D:bonk::thumbs:

I love to shoot film from time to time and still own lots of 35mm and MF film kit because it makes you think about what you do.

That said, my (recently acquired) 5d also makes me think now and shoot more selectively as I only fit 41 or so images on a 1 Gb card.

Also recently got me a 1Ds MkII which should land soon and I would rather not even think how many images I would fit on the same card.

Bottom line is, there is something about film that stays in your blood and digital will never remove it.

I really pity the guys and gals who learn photography nowadays without a film foundation...
 
Thanks for the welcome and positive comments about film, I was worried I'd be seen as a bit of an idiot with my film camera ;)

To Fiona - If you have canon kit and were interested in having a bash with film, you could pick up a 35mm body only off ebay for about £30 which will work with your lenses, shoot a few rolls, and then flog it again for about the same!

Cheers
 
Hi James.
the DOF can depend on how far away you are from the group. I would suggest f7.1 to f8. you should have a dof preview button on that camera, if would be a small button next to the lens (opposite site to the lens release button), this can help check dof. Compare to digital 1.3 and 1.6 crop camera, you would need a smaller (larger f/ no.) dof.
If I have to do quick capture shots, (which happens a lot for me) I set the focus on manual at 1.5 meters f8, and pretty much every thing from back to front is in focus (when photographing people) this would be different for landscape as you would not have a person in the group 50 meters away. I'm not suggesting you do that, it just saves me time and from missing a shot while the camera would otherwise still be focusing. The point is, it works, and has good depth of field.
Hope that helps.
 
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