newby qustion about full frame canon cameras

wider angles so more in the shot compared to crop which has a better reach
 
The sensor is phsically bigger so your recording device is much larger hence better quality. Also the viewfinder is amazing :)
 
felix said:
What is the advantage of full frame
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Bigger sensor means a bigger viewfinder to go with it. The pixels can be bigger as there is more space to put them in, so you get less noise. The whole camera becomes bigger, which is great if you like chunky. :)
 
dazzajl said:
Bigger sensor means a bigger viewfinder to go with it. The pixels can be bigger as there is more space to put them in, so you get less noise. The whole camera becomes bigger, which is great if you like chunky. :)
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Indeed I do..........except it's all a bit of a pain in the wrists after a few hours with a 1Ds and a 70-200 f2.8IS. Chunky! :naughty:
 
Ok thanks. What would you recommend as a stsrter canon full frame body I have a eos 450d at the moment and would very much like to go a bit better.
I mostly use it for motor sport and wield life. I would however like to do some portriat work.

Thanks for all your advice
 
felix said:
Ok thanks. What would you recommend as a stsrter canon full frame body I have a eos 450d at the moment and would very much like to go a bit better.
I mostly use it for motor sport and wield life. I would however like to do some portriat work.

Thanks for all your advice
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motorsport and wildlife would benifit from a crop sensor, not full frame.

I have recently gone from the 450D to 7D, and love it!
 
If you want to go full frame, brand new you are looking at a 5D Mark 2 (£1700) or 1Ds Mark 3 (£4500.)

The cheaper ways to go full frame is a 5D Mark 1, available for under £1000 (even around £700 for well used examples.) Otherwise, if you prefer the full sized bodies, there is the original 1Ds (not sure on cost) and 1Ds Mark 2 (about £1.2-1.5k used.)

The 1D series are a 1.3x crop high speed professional series, so would probably be a better option for motorsport. The Mark 4 has just been announced, but you could find a Mark 2 (or maybe a Mark 2n) for under £1000 used.
 
Full frame excels at portrait, wedding and landscape work. Crop sensors excel at fast moving objects or distant objects so Dave is spot on. :)

Motorsport and wildlife is the territory of the crop.
 
Thanks had a look on the net and ther are plenty out there.

cheers:D
 
evo456 said:
Greater depth of field control over crop when pictures are framed the same
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Or less, it really depends on what your aiming for. Sometimes you might want reach and a large zone of sharpness. Much easier with a small sensor.
 
felix said:
Ok thanks. What would you recommend as a stsrter canon full frame body I have a eos 450d at the moment and would very much like to go a bit better.
I mostly use it for motor sport and wield life. I would however like to do some portriat work.

Thanks for all your advice
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If you're into motor sport and wildlife you may be better off with the Canon 7D. At the risk of provoking another endless debate on the relative merits of full frame and cropped frame lenses, the 1.6 crop factor of the 7D will give you more reach on your longer lenses.

Having used my own 450D with a Sigma 150-500mm zoom, stalking chimpanzees and flamingos at Chester Zoo, the more reach the better, for wildlife photography.

If you do get seriously into portrait work, however, you should definately go for full frame.

One final issue: do you have a large collection of EF-S lenses. These won't work on the full frame EF mount.

I'm hoping to upgrade my body in a couple of year's time and I will be looking at the 7D mark II (or whatever Canon decide to call it), which should be out by then.
 
Get a 1DmkII, 1.3x crop body, 8fps, and while its not full frame, its less crop then a 1.6x Canon (portaits) but it does give you a bit extra reach for the motorsports and wildlife shots.
And sadly, like full frame, they DON'T take ef-s lenses
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1.6 or 1.3 crop does not give any further 'reach' on a lens. The smaller sensor effectively crops the image it doesn't extend the length of the lens.... it a crop not a magnification.

now, where did I put my tin helmet :exit:
 
You are indeed correct. but this in turn gives it extra "reach" really.
The 15mp 50d gets a higher res image then a images cropped from a 5D to get the same picture, make sense? :lol:
 
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