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So...I set my Camera up (D7000) card slot 1 = RAW card slot 2 = JPEG
Took some pictures over the weekend
Popped the RAW card out and copied all the files to my PC

I was getting excited, my first bit of RAW processing!!

Opened Adobe Photoshop Elements 7
Into edit mode
File, Open, picked a picture
File didn't open

Oh!

Into Organise
Get pictures
File didn't open

Oh!

Google confused me

I assume this Sticky post will help, is it up to date?
https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/t...d-photoshop-cs-elements-compatibility.356446/
 
realspeed said:
Elements 7 is an early version, it may not be able to handle RAW files. the latest is elements 14. I would suggest you get a later version from elements 10 onwards
get a free trial from adobe
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Ohh Noo!
I do hope not, I was banking on making do with Elements 7, I didn't really want to pay for another software package to edit my pictures
 
It will probably be the version of the Adobe Camera RAW plug-in - you need a version released after your camera model was introduced. Adobe no longer release ACR plug-ins for Elements 6 and I suspect the same applies to version 7.

You can download (for free) Gimp with UFRaw which, at the least, will assure you your RAW files are OK.
 
john.margetts said:
It will probably be the version of the Adobe Camera RAW plug-in - you need a version released after your camera model was introduced. Adobe no longer release ACR plug-ins for Elements 6 and I suspect the same applies to version 7.

You can download (for free) Gimp with UFRaw which, at the least, will assure you your RAW files are OK.
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I'm pretty sure the RAW files are fine, of to research Photoshop and Lightroom now and their prices.
I was hoping to buy a couple of filters for my lenses, looks like the money might go on software now :(
 
Seriously, try Gimp and UFRaw. They are excellent pieces of software - being free takes nothing from that.

Actually, now that I think about it, just download UFRaw and link it to Photoshop Elements 7.
 
john.margetts said:
Seriously, try Gimp and UFRaw. They are excellent pieces of software - being free takes nothing from that.

Actually, now that I think about it, just download UFRaw and link it to Photoshop Elements 7.
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OK, cheers. I will when I get home tonight.
Just checked out Photoshop & Lightroom bundle on Amazon and I didn't think it was bad at £99 but then I read it was a yearly subscription!
 
In order for you to read Nikon D7000 files the minimum you need is Adobe Camera RAW version 6.3 and Elements 9.

The other option which you are clearly looking at is a subscription to Adobe Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC. The subscription is usually taken monthly i believe by DD and can be had for less than £10 a month.
Wor5h remembering that if you go for CC you get automatic updates.
 
J40ADF said:
OK, cheers. I will when I get home tonight.
Just checked out Photoshop & Lightroom bundle on Amazon and I didn't think it was bad at £99 but then I read it was a yearly subscription!
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Look them up on Adobes site. They do it so you can monthly. Not necessarily cheaper (although I believe there is a current offer on), but saves forking out upfront for something you may not then get in with.
 
Giles2373 said:
Look them up on Adobes site. They do it so you can monthly. Not necessarily cheaper (although I believe there is a current offer on), but saves forking out upfront for something you may not then get in with.
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It is a 12 month contract though so it's a year of paying minimum.
 
Some people get a lot of use out of the subscription. But if it's all new to you and you are not sure, as already suggested, try one of the free or open source programs first. UFRaw, Raw Therapee etc. There are many good ones. And you might already have a raw converter that came with your camera.
 
Can I check this out with you guys.

I've shot in both RAW and JPEG, the D7000 has two memory card slots and I use them like that, to shoot in both formats.
I want to stop processing the JPEGs and start using the RAW format so I can process those.

Would I loose any detail if I used a free RAW converter and started to edit those with my Elements 7?

Chances are Nikon sent a disc though with my camera with a RAW converter on it, I've never put the disc in my PC
 
You will be able to convert your NEF files to DNG with no loss of data then edit the DNG in Elements.
 
J40ADF said:
Can I check this out with you guys.

I've shot in both RAW and JPEG, the D7000 has two memory card slots and I use them like that, to shoot in both formats.
I want to stop processing the JPEGs and start using the RAW format so I can process those.

Would I loose any detail if I used a free RAW converter and started to edit those with my Elements 7?

Chances are Nikon sent a disc though with my camera with a RAW converter on it, I've never put the disc in my PC
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Go to the Nikon web site - someone else provided the link - and download View-NXD. This will read your raw files and enable you to save then as .dng - with no loss of detail - which Elements 7 can then read. Not only that but Nikon update the program to take account of new cameras so it will continue to work even if you upgrade your camera in the future.

Zero cost and you get to continue using the software you're familiar with :)
 
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Saving me £s
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View NX will allow you to edit your raw files but it is horrible to use. The best option is the Adobe Photographer's bundle as mentioned, or just update to the latest version of PS Essentials - £50 seems quite reasonable to me
 
Bristolian said:
Go to the Nikon web site - someone else provided the link - and download View-NXD. This will read your raw files and enable you to save then as .dng - with no loss of detail - which Elements 7 can then read. Not only that but Nikon update the program to take account of new cameras so it will continue to work even if you upgrade your camera in the future.

Zero cost and you get to continue using the software you're familiar with :)
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Do you need to load the files individually with View-NXD? If so, Adobe DNG Converter would be a better bet as this can convert a complete folder/directory of raw files to DNG with one click (including subfolders if so desired).

Elements 7 is only compatible with ACR 5.6 or earlier. Adobe DNG Converter lets you select the required backwards compatibility for the created DNG files.

 
Scirocco_09 said:
View NX will allow you to edit your raw files but it is horrible to use. The best option is the Adobe Photographer's bundle as mentioned, or just update to the latest version of PS Essentials - £50 seems quite reasonable to me
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Yes, I certainly wouldn't advocate using View-NXD for editing but as a raw converter is excellent.
 
GardenersHelper said:
Do you need to load the files individually with View-NXD? If so, Adobe DNG Converter would be a better bet as this can convert a complete folder/directory of raw files to DNG with one click (including subfolders if so desired).
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No, With View-NXD you can select single files, multiple files, a whole folder and even sub-folders to convert at the same time. It is very versatile.
 
Bristolian said:
Yes, I certainly wouldn't advocate using View-NXD for editing but as a raw converter is excellent.
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View NX is no match for Adobe Camera Raw in my opinion, it's very fiddly to use and a real disappointment considering it's Nikon software for Nikon cameras
 
Scirocco_09 said:
View NX is no match for Adobe Camera Raw in my opinion, it's very fiddly to use and a real disappointment considering it's Nikon software for Nikon cameras
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For simply converting Nikon NEF files into something else View-NXD provides a more accurate rendition than ACR. Why? Because NXD can read all of the data in the NEF file whereas ACR can't and has to "guess" what effect the proprietary areas of the data are meant to show.

Once you get beyond simple conversion then ACR is way better in getting the results you (i.e. the photographer) want - no arguement here :)

I don't understand your comment about being fiddly to use: select the images you want to convert (or the whole folder), choose the output format and press go - not usre how it could be any simpler, really :)
 
Now im struggling to convert the .nef files to .dng
I've downloaded Capture NX-D, but the only extentions available to save as are .jpg or .tff

caveat...i have not read the instructions...who does :)
 
J40ADF said:
Now im struggling to convert the .nef files to .dng
I've downloaded Capture NX-D, but the only extentions available to save as are .jpg or .tff

caveat...i have not read the instructions...who does :)
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Why do you need .dng, can't you use .jpeg or .tiff?
 
gramps said:
He can do that with .jpeg or .tiff, .tiff being the better option.
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Im guessing he wants to be able to process without losing quality, although if the conversion to TIFF is with LZW compression then there will be no reduction in quality.
 
stupar said:
You will be able to convert your NEF files to DNG with no loss of data then edit the DNG in Elements.
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As stupar posted, use the 'free' Adobe DNG converter to convert Nikon NEFs into DNGs, which will then be able to be read by the version of Elements you have. No need to learn buy and/or learn new software if you don't want to. I recently had to do that whilst waiting for Adobe to update Camera Raw to be able the RAW files from my new camera.

That said, there are many new features of more recent versions of Elements which you may find useful, depending on what type of editing you do, and you would be able to use the Nikon RAW files as is. Even if you don't go heavily into the editing side, the RAW part of the program will have been improved in the 6-7 years since your version came out. You can sometimes pick up Elements cheap on Amazon occasionally. You can also sometime save money by buying an upgrade to the version of Elements you have, rather than buying a new standalone version. :)
 
So, Nikons Capture NX-D does not save as DNG and Adobes DNG converter, regardless of the compatibility preferences I set, does not recognise my .nef files.
I'm not having much luck
 
J40ADF said:
So, Nikons Capture NX-D does not save as DNG and Adobes DNG converter, regardless of the compatibility preferences I set, does not recognise my .nef files.
I'm not having much luck
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If you save as a .tiff you will have really close to RAW data in the image :)
 
J40ADF said:
So, Nikons Capture NX-D does not save as DNG and Adobes DNG converter, regardless of the compatibility preferences I set, does not recognise my .nef files.
I'm not having much luck
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Have you downloaded the latest version of the Adobe DNG Coverter? The latest version is 9.6.1.

The DNG Converter has to be updated as new cameras are released, but it tends to get updated for the new cameras before the other Adobe programs.

I used it with the Nikon D500 files with no problem until I was able to update Adobe Camera Raw and Lightroom.
 
gramps said:
If you save as a .tiff you will have really close to RAW data in the image :)
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I'm just going off what others have said here and to convert to .dng
I'm pretty clueless as you can see and have no idea of the difference between .tff and .dng
 
J40ADF said:
I'm just going off what others have said here and to convert to .dng
I'm pretty clueless as you can see and have no idea of the difference between .tff and .dng
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Using Capture NX-D will save having to convert to .dng to 'see' your images in Elements.
You can load and view your images (and do quite a lot of processing) before saving as a .tiff to edit in Elements (if you even need to after Capture NX-D) but the choice is yours). Just seems like saving an additional process just to convert the file. :)
 
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