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RSMarco

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Hi all,
I have struggled to understand RAW images and how to effectively post process them.

What I find difficult is the sequence of things to do and what looks good and bad etc.

Can anyone offer any advice and possibly which software is user friendly to start with. I have a Mac by the way.

Would like to try Aperture or Lightroom but feel these are to advanced for me to use on the trial basis and I'd run out of time. Maybe I'm wrong and your help will be very much appreciated..!

Many thanks

Mark
 
Iam unsure about the RAW thing something i need to look into.

But if you want to get into post processing i use photoshop. I started by looking up tutorials for colour correction using levels, curves, hue/saturation as the basics and then you can use colour balance, selective colour and such if you want to be picky.

And the best thing i find to do is to keep checking what each thing does by clicking the preview and see if it actually makes a difference and if it is actually better or worse. Worse, scrap it or try fiddle a bit more.

Also to get use to some try doing a few edits on one photo and compare the results at the end and see which you like and dont like so you can take the good parts in the next edit and get rid of the bad ones.

Just remember not to crank up everything to much to start off with as well, it is very easy to when you start editing.
 
Thanks mate.

Forgot to mention, having a mac gives me iPhoto as standard but I have PE8 too.

Mark
 
Never really used PE8 but think you can still do the stuff i mentioned with levels, curves and such.

Best bet is looking up basic colour correction to get use to the program and edit and then look up other stuff when it comes around, like certain effects you want to try
 
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RSMarco, much of the software available these days is geared for both pro and amateur use - LR and Aperture (the former what I use these days) being very accessible to those who only want to do minor edits in quick, easy steps. They also include a lot of image archiving power to help store and categorise images.

Photoshop is still the boss, but it's much more for people who know their processing procedures; Elements is a scaled-down PS as far as I'm aware and suited to people who want something simpler.

If you fancy giving LR a go, have a look at thelightroomlab - this is a really good internet resource with loads of handy video tutorials about general use. It'll help you get more from a trial version and at the least, help you make up your mind as to whether you want to invest in the full programme.

Personally, i think LR is great because I can import, catalogue and categorise my images, then process everything one-by-one using the one-shot processing sliders (as opposed to going through drop-down menus like in Photoshop) before I output. Of course, the other benefit I find from LR is the non-destructive editing, so regardless of whether I'm working in raw or JPEG, I'm just changing settings that are applied by the software, as opposed to having to save copies. You can also sync settings so they apply to a batch of images, which is a nice feature. Ultimately, you can't mess anything up in LR (or any other non-destructive software); you can't ruin an image for eternity because it's only settings applied, rather than actually changing the image. You can be as experimental as you like but always press the revert button and start back at square one without having lost anything valuable.

In terms of how I process, it's very much determined by what I want to achieve but because LR uses a series of on-screen panels to display all the adjustment sliders I just make adjustments to how I see fit, be it sharpening, WB adjustments or vignettes or whatever other options are available. You have curves in there too and more advanced functions to do with colour channel management - it's a very powerful piece of kit that's not to difficult to understand immediately.

Also, don't be too worried about shooting formats just yet. By all means shoot in raw, but a good JPEG will be better than a poorly exposed raw file. Raw is great for extensive, real intricate tweaking to get the ultimate from a shot, but don't discount JPEG - a high quality JPEG can look amazing when processed well and exposed correctly in the first place.
 
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Hi all,
I have struggled to understand RAW images and how to effectively post process them.

What I find difficult is the sequence of things to do and what looks good and bad etc.

Can anyone offer any advice and possibly which software is user friendly to start with. I have a Mac by the way.

Would like to try Aperture or Lightroom but feel these are to advanced for me to use on the trial basis and I'd run out of time. Maybe I'm wrong and your help will be very much appreciated..!

Many thanks

Mark

You have iPhoto, so start there.

To kick off with, RAW editing lets you manipulate the exposure in a number of ways. These are all available in every RAW editor, they just may have slightly different names.

Overall adjustments
-Exposure
-White balance

Targetted adjustments
-Highlights (White point / recovery)
-Blacks (Black level / Black point, Blacks)
-Midtones (Fill light)

Start with these adjustments, pic an image or two to experiment with and whack each slider around in turn to see the effects.

There's also stuff like clarity, saturation and vibrance which you can then do the same with.

Don't go delving into buying software just yet, iPhoto uses the same RAW engine as Aperture (which is why the use the same camera support updates), so it's a damn good starting point to get to grips with tweaking RAW before you spend money and go looking for bigger and better tools.

The camera you have should also have some RAW editing software which you may find easier to use, again, costs you nothing.

Experiment with the stuff above first, then look at all the other stuff you can fiddle with later.

Have a look in here for a rough overview of editing in RAW

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/editing-raw-photos-adobe-camera-raw/

Lightroom's the daddy, but it's £240 for software that may put you off as there's so much to it.
 
iPhoto really impressed me when I got a Mac. It's not as powerful as Lightroom or Photoshop,but for what it does, and is effectively a free programme it s impressive.

However I did some checking and it seems that the GF-1 RAW format may not be fully supported. I could only find references that are dated Feb 2010, so Apple may have released additional support since then .

However you have the programme so why not try it.
 
Many thanks to you all who have given me some good advice..!

I think one of my problems is that I feel I should be using LR etc as most others do.

Everyone needs to start somewhere.

Mark
 
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