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Don't know if this has been covered previously. I have no affiliation to the seller - it's just a product I thought I'd share as someone who uses a small softbox on a day-to-day basis.....

Recently bought another 'flea bay' soft box for portable use out on features.

Overal quality is good but the most surprising thing is the 'redesign' of the speedring as you can see in the pic:

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All of the speed rings of this kind that I've had before have all featured a simple ball joint, but these haven't always been that good due to the quality of the joint and its ability to lock use the weight of a soft box and flashgun.

This one solves this IMO; it has a single one-direction angle joint, which is strong, locks superbly and seems to be bonded with the main frame of the speedring in a much more secure manner using allen bolts.

As you can see, I've removed the metal vice-type coldshoe, as I prefer the trigger to be mounted directly to the frame. I just needed to add another washer to make the fit better. Because the bottom 'arm' of the mounting frame isn't long enough the receiver has to be mounted at an angle but this can be countered by using the twist function the flash head. I've done it this way so the flash is relatively close to the opening into the back of the soft box and just means there's less chance of light spill/escape than if you are to mount the flash backwards and then spin the head round. Of course, to do this your flash's head need to have a twist function.

The height of the opening is adjustable like most speed rings but to prevent play between the upright and the actual 'O', there are two locking pins that protrude from the arm to stop the 'O' moving on the single locking bolt.

The thumbscrews are excellent - very easy to adjust, very positive and large. Two are milked metal, the other a regular plastic-coeverd unit.

So far it's proving to be a very good piece of kit for the money. Yes, the paint finish isn't amazing (there are rub marks and dried drips) but the whole unit feels solid and anyway, it'll get bashed around so will soon look used :)

The soft box is double diffused (one large front panel, one smaller internal, removable panel. The inside is silver but the light could be modified using gels.

There's still the issue of the soft box stretching and losing its shape, leading to the speedring losing its grip. This is down to the way the speedring 'clips' in to the soft box using the tension of the soft box's frame. But that's life....

I'm hoping this signals a bit of a re-think of cheaper softboxes. So far it looks good and for the money, things definitely look good :)
 
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Amazing! I ordered one of these this very afternoon. Sounds like a result for a change, I only ordered the whole thing because it wasn't much more money than just a bracket fitting. :)
 
I've been using cheap softboxes for ages. No difference in performance from lastolite. Or stretched bed sheet.
 
It just turned up:thumbs: and I've got to go out:thumbsdown:
 
I've been using cheap softboxes for ages. No difference in performance from lastolite. Or stretched bed sheet.

Funny you should say that - have you seen the comments by the Bowens rep on this? :)

I suppose I should be flattered when other people copy Lencarta's products...
 
Sebastian said:
I've been using cheap softboxes for ages. No difference in performance from lastolite. Or stretched bed sheet.

That possibly says more about lastolite than the cheap softboxes ;)
 
Looks familiar:

http://www.bessel.co.uk/info/Speedlite Softbox.html

Bought one of these ^^^^^ a long while back,,, nifty thing, I can spot where the price differences come in, the metal isn't as high grade for one and only a single baffle, but for the penny's you pay its a fair bargain...

The ebay one looks especially good value.

For heavy use though, think the lastolite has the upper hand and if you look at where the gun goes in the lastolite is designed to loose less light ;)

I also represent neither company by the way!
 
....For heavy use though, think the lastolite has the upper hand and if you look at where the gun goes in the lastolite is designed to loose less light ;)....

I';d like to get hold of a Lastolite one to test the theory about light loss through the aperture in the rear. Interested to know how much light is lost...

I did spot another soft box that looked like it had solved this problem - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110759573...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648#ht_3415wt_1088

Not sure about the ball joint - just doesn't look like it'll last - but the method of attachment is novel, the flash pretty much sits centrally, and the shroud around the flash looks like it'll lose zero light. Plus, it can be shifted so that the IR sensor can be seen for CLS use...
 
This is an interesting statement from what Garry reffered to, is there any way establish how successful they have been.

“Our approach with Lumiair has been to carefully control the colour temperature of the reflected light and ensure that the material we use in our diffusers does not fluoresce under UV light.

I don't trust any reflective or diffusing material to not effect the light passing through or bouncing off it. Not that that is particularly important for the vast majority of things I am likely to photgraph. But when it comes down to accurate colour reproduction, there is no way I would trust something like a softbox, regardless of who makes it.You might just as well use a so called crappy cheap ebay job as a high end super duper one. The metalic relectors pick up and throw out all sorts of crap colour reflections on top of what the surface of them contain and the various white diffusion materials could have any faint colour cast in them. I suppose it comes down to how consistant and accurate you want your colours to be. I personally wouldn't expect great colour results from any softbox for what I mainly do at the moment.

The above soft box that I got today looks okay to me, its a glorified lampshade with a tripod up its arze that I can stick a flash into and aim at things.:)
 
I';d like to get hold of a Lastolite one to test the theory about light loss through the aperture in the rear. Interested to know how much light is lost...
I thought the Lastolite just had the same hole at the back?
 
I thought the Lastolite just had the same hole at the back?

The softbox does but the speedring has a rectangular aperture that the head of the flash pokes through, so the flashgun is partly inside of the soft box. The regular flea bay hobbies all have the flash eternal of the soft box :)
 
The softbox does but the speedring has a rectangular aperture that the head of the flash pokes through, so the flashgun is partly inside of the soft box. The regular flea bay hobbies all have the flash eternal of the soft box :)
Ah, now that makes sense. Although that doesn't sound like something a bit of tape can't fix ;)
 
This is an interesting statement from what Garry reffered to, is there any way establish how successful they have been.

“Our approach with Lumiair has been to carefully control the colour temperature of the reflected light and ensure that the material we use in our diffusers does not fluoresce under UV light.
Good question, I believe that they only launched them recently and I don't know of anyone who has bought one - perhaps someone on here has, and can answer the question?

I'm sure that they will be a good product, I have a lot of respect for their products and all previous Bowens branded softboxes I've seen have been well made and well designed, and as these seem to be very close friends of the Lencarta ones....:)

Looking at the photo of this one though I don't see that the edges are particularly straight - maybe it's just a bad photo though. It's twice the price of the equivalent Lencarta one though so it may take a while to find anyone who has one. And the prices of their honeycomb grid prices are... interesting

I see that Park Cameras are selling them, although they don't seem to be in stock - maybe there's someone here from Park Cameras who can help?
 
I might order three or four of these as my 'starter kit':eek::eek:

http://www.bowensdirect.com/index.php/continuouslight/studiolite-sl855-starter-kit.html

Seems ideal for a beginner like me:lol:

On another note, has anyone tried firing a softbox through shaped blocking templates fixed to the front of the diffuser? I fancy having a play with this but can't find anything relating to doing it anywhere. You stick a snoot on a flash, so how about a softbox template?:thinking:
 
I might order three or four of these as my 'starter kit':eek::eek:

http://www.bowensdirect.com/index.php/continuouslight/studiolite-sl855-starter-kit.html

Seems ideal for a beginner like me:lol:

On another note, has anyone tried firing a softbox through shaped blocking templates fixed to the front of the diffuser? I fancy having a play with this but can't find anything relating to doing it anywhere. You stick a snoot on a flash, so how about a softbox template?:thinking:
It couldn't work, at least not with a diffuser immediately behind, the image created by the gobos would be so blurred that the shadows would be impossible to see.

But it would work if you had enough distance between the softbox (or other light source) and the gobo.
 
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