But these are not the first cameras in a new market. Sony got ridiculed for the lack of lenses, ergonomics, poor AF and just generally. Nikon being Nikon offcource have a lot of street credibility nevertheless this can turn out to make a huge withdrawal of goodwill. They need to show with at least a core of a system, now we need a proper wide and a portrait lens at least. So 5 lenses.Producing lenses is a bit harder than buying lenses you know!
How many lenses did Sony start with with the first a7? There is only so much production capacity they have, they are not a huge company, and the also have to produce F mount lenses at the same time, which Sony don't have to. They have three lenses plus whatever of the 90 fully compatible lenses you may own via the adapter.And for once they have given a roadmap for their (mirrorless) lenses.
5’s a good numberI assumed that, but 4, 6, whatever Sony currently have.
If they had brought out 5 lenses someone would have always wanted more, or at least a new version of their favourite lens.
Sounds like you're too set in your ways to embrace change
If you're buying with your head, thinking about what you're getting for your money in terms of performance and spec then no-one surely would. But I honestly think it will sell well, I just can't for the life of me think why these people would
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I thought this too... but, there again, it's a review of the specifications, not the actual camera. (Bear with me here - I'm playing devil's advocate
Sounds like you're too set in your ways to embrace change
Pointless IMHO. Meanwhile, that massive hole in the front takes up valuable space for everything else - like dual memory card slots, or a bigger battery etc.
I.d put my house on Canon having 2 card slotsAll this talk about Nikon's 'huge' new Z mount leaves me pretty cold TBH. Sure the F-mount is a bit tight for some fast primes, but how fast do you need to go? When you get below f/1.4, lens size, weight and cost escalate dramatically, and performance takes a hit. Look at Nikon's (manual focus) prototype 58mm f/0.95 Noct
Nikon appears to be playing hardball with the new Z-mount protocols. Unlike Sony, they're not releasing them to third-party manufacturers which means they'll have to reverse-engineer them the hard way - as usual. It's clearly a business decision Nikon has made and since we don't know the business impact of that, it's hard to comment.
I don't see a flood of amazing adpaters appearing though, allowing you to fit any DSLR lens to any mirrorless camera, any more than we've seen so far. What's possible in theory seems to turn out (Metabones etc) to be expensive and often with less than optimum performance. Camera manufacturers are in business to make money, and selling their own-brand lenses is a big part of that. They've learned to live with Sigma and Tamron etc, but only because they've had to.
My guess is that Canon's new FF mirrorless will have a new mount. It's a great opportunity to start afresh with something truly future-proof, and since we'll need a mount adapter to use Canon DSLR lenses anyway, it makes no difference what's on the other end.
Canon will be under huge pressure to to reveal 'something' at Photokina next month. It could be anything from a mere statement of intent, to a mock-up in a locked display case, to a pre-production prototype, even the real deal. But since Photokina is only weeks away now and we've heard next to nothing so far, I'd say a mock-up is the best we can hope for, with a promise of more to come next year.
Given the Nikon Z's disappointing AF performance, it seems to be a tougher gig than expected (hats off to Sony). Canon will wait until they're ready, and given their strong market position in both DSLRs and mirrorless M-series, time is on their side at least for the short term.
No EYE-AF?
yep f1.4 is plenty wide enough, I’d certainly sacrifice the lens mount size for a second card slot, although I do think in the future we’ll see a second slot.All this talk about Nikon's 'huge' new Z mount leaves me pretty cold TBH. Sure the F-mount is a bit tight for some fast primes, but how fast do you need to go? When you get below f/1.4, lens size, weight and cost escalate dramatically, and performance takes a hit. Look at Nikon's (manual focus) prototype 58mm f/0.95 Noct
Nikon appears to be playing hardball with the new Z-mount protocols. Unlike Sony, they're not releasing them to third-party manufacturers which means they'll have to reverse-engineer them the hard way - as usual. It's clearly a business decision Nikon has made and since we don't know the business impact of that, it's hard to comment.
I don't see a flood of amazing adpaters appearing though, allowing you to fit any DSLR lens to any mirrorless camera, any more than we've seen so far. What's possible in theory seems to turn out (Metabones etc) to be expensive and often with less than optimum performance. Camera manufacturers are in business to make money, and selling their own-brand lenses is a big part of that. They've learned to live with Sigma and Tamron etc, but only because they've had to.
My guess is that Canon's new FF mirrorless will have a new mount. It's a great opportunity to start afresh with something truly future-proof, and since we'll need a mount adapter to use Canon DSLR lenses anyway, it makes no difference what's on the other end.
Canon will be under huge pressure to to reveal 'something' at Photokina next month. It could be anything from a mere statement of intent, to a mock-up in a locked display case, to a pre-production prototype, even the real deal. But since Photokina is only weeks away now and we've heard next to nothing so far, I'd say a mock-up is the best we can hope for, with a promise of more to come next year.
Given the Nikon Z's disappointing AF performance, it seems to be a tougher gig than expected (hats off to Sony). Canon will wait until they're ready, and given their strong market position in both DSLRs and mirrorless M-series, time is on their side at least for the short term.
But neither appear to have the performance of their counterpart at the moment.
Whilst that would be a good move it also doesn’t seem quite fair for us that have already bought an xqd compatible camera. Such is life
No EYE-AF?
