New Nikkors due to be announced today

Grays list the 17-35mm at £1735.00!! Coincidence! :)
 
awp said:
Grays list the 17-35mm at £1735.00!! Coincidence! :)
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Which is insane, because HK will deliver it to your door for almost half that figure.

Given that Grays is the only place I know of advertising one in the UK, clearly thats why they believe they can charge a premium for what is considered to be a legendary lens.
 
How about a version of D700 that can take Canon and Nikon lenses with full functionality please? please.

I know I am being silly here, but I am allowed to have some wild dreams.
 
daugirdas said:
How about a version of D700 that can take Canon and Nikon lenses with full functionality please? please.
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desantnik said:
Do you need a f2.8 lens for landscapes?

Also the addition of VR is quite baffling - that would be the shortest lens ever to have VR....

I have a feeling this would be a consumer grade lens, not a 1200 quid job.
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No sorry -I meant it's a shame for me (not for landscapers). I shoot a lot in low light so it would have been ideal if it were faster.

I think it's designed to match Canon's 17-40 F4L IS
 
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Grays list the 17-35mm at £1735.00!! Coincidence!
Which is insane, because HK will deliver it to your door for almost half that figure.

desantnik posted:-
Given that Grays is the only place I know of advertising one in the UK, clearly thats why they believe they can charge a premium for what is considered to be a legendary lens.

Mifsuds are advertising the 17 - 35 for £1549.

One Stop Digital in Hong Kong - £962.
I know where I would be buying.
 
arclight said:
Mifsuds are advertising the 17 - 35 for £1549.

One Stop Digital in Hong Kong - £962.
I know where I would be buying.
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Exactly my point! But expect the HK haters to turn up and tell you that you are wrong, evil and likely to be scammed by OSD. Me, I love them :love:
 
I don't even want to think about the 24mm (unless it's f/1.8 and cheap) but the 16-35 f/4 might be an interesting prospect if it is anywhere near as good as the 17-35 f/2.8. Yes, VR on a lens this short might seem odd but it's a marketing tool and if it's built-in then it'll be of use, especially to people who shoot handheld and in particular, in low light conditions where a high ISO isn't desirable. Still, I can't see that coming in at less than £750 - the 12-24 f/4, which is essentially to counter the Siggy 10-20 and the EF-S 10-22 is £750 and that's probably one of the cheaper 'specialised' Nikon optics.

As for new bodies, it's anyone's guess. They'll probably attack the EOS 7D at some point but that would mean a D300 with a mega high pixel rating that will at least match the Canon's. That's my guess.

A new variant of the D700 would be interesting as an FX body with very, very high ISO capabilities (and possibly more MP) but is it a priority for Nikon?

My preference would be for Nikon to pull its thumb out and produce some fast(ish) long optics, something like an f/4 400mm for less than £1,500.

awp said:
Grays list the 17-35mm at £1735.00!! Coincidence! :)
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Ouch!! A mate bought his from the US (through a contact at Nikon) and got his for the princely sum of £600.... barsteward!!!!
 
I paid about £700 for mine if I remember correctly. Bargain compared to today's prices!
 
Given that many won't seek out Thom Hogan's reputable and insightful commentary regarding all things Nikon, I thought I'd quote the pertinent bit regarding the Sony/Nikon commentary.

There's the inevitable "is it a Sony or Nikon sensor" question thing that arises from another new sensor announcement. But it especially rises this time as the primary difference between a D3 and a D3x is the sensor, and Sony has a similar-sized sensor in a camera that's US$5000 less expensive. I think there's a clear assumption by many that if it is a Sony sensor, then either the A900 is a bargain or the D3x is overpriced.

In actuality, the origin of the sensor is, like virtually all Nikon sensors, more complex. There's a story going around Japan, for instance, that one of Sony's newer fabs was partially leased to another company making CMOS sensors. There aren't many companies making CMOS sensors that need a state-of-the-art fab on lease, so the rumor has it that Nikon is the leasee. Given that the steppers in the plant probably came from Nikon Precision and things get messy real quick. There have also been rumors around for some time that Nikon was either specifying or applying their own "toppings" (that would be microlenses and Bayer filtration), even when they were using a Sony generated sensor. To say that there is a lot of entwinement between Sony Semiconductor and Nikon Imaging is understatement. Personally, I like the way Nikon puts it: "unique." The D3x sensor is unique to the D3x, though it may share some underpinnings with other sensors.

So it seems clear to me that the D3x sensor isn't the A900 sensor. There are some obvious differences that can be gleaned from the specs and without access to technical data sheets. At the same time, there are too many coincidences for the D3x sensor not to be based on the Sony sensel (the light sensing area of the photosite). It also seems clear that the low-pass filter is handled differently in the Nikon version. So all those thinking that the A900 and D3x should be the "same" for raw files are probably going to be proven wrong. And for JPEG files, the EXPEED and BIONZ image processing ASICs are certainly going to produce different results.
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Radiohead said:
Looks very likely that today will see the announcement of:

24mm f1.4 AF-S :clap:
16-35mm f4 AF-S VR

The former likely to be v. pricey (I'll go for £1500 or so at launch). It is, however, the start of a wave of prime refreshes that at a stroke removes the one area that Canon currently own Nikon (AF-S fast primes at 135mm and below). If the recent 14-24/24-70/70-200's are anything to go by it will be stellar. I know 3 or 4 shooters who will move to Nikon if this 24mm materialises....
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I hope the 24mm rumor is true. Not because I will immediately rush out and buy one ( it's slightly lower in priority than a 35 1.4 ) but because it might just be the start of Nikon really going for it on some Pro primes. I'd swap to an 85/1.4 AFS in an instant, and I'd snap up a 35/1.4 too, but I'll be waiting a bit to see if they come out before going for the 24/1.4. Although I'd need a D3x too :naughty:

Pete
 
icecavern said:
Although I'd need a D3x too :naughty:

Pete
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As well as the D3 :lol::lol:

I've looked to go D3x only twice now , both times I've ended up with a D3 variant again. The high iso of the d3 for me makes it worth keeping. But the D3x is currently the main cam.
 
barneyrubble said:
As well as the D3 :lol::lol:

I've looked to go D3x only twice now , both times I've ended up with a D3 variant again. The high iso of the d3 for me makes it worth keeping. But the D3x is currently the main cam.
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Yes as well as. Idealy the D3x would replace the D700, and the D3x would be my main body, with the D3 when I have to go much higher in ISO, but a down-sampled 1600 out of the D3x looks good enough for me. :)

Pete
 
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Originally Posted by arclight View Post
Mifsuds are advertising the 17 - 35 for £1549.

One Stop Digital in Hong Kong - £962.
I know where I would be buying.
Exactly my point! But expect the HK haters to turn up and tell you that you are wrong, evil and likely to be scammed by OSD. Me, I love them

Me too. Used them 4 times now - superlative service.
 
I think the D700x will seriously affect the D700 resale which has been strong till now, an update such as this is bound to knock 2nd hand prices to around £500. If any D700 owners want to cash in quick I can pay £800 for one, meaning you are £300 up :thumbs:
 
cambsno said:
I think the D700x will seriously affect the D700 resale which has been strong till now, an update such as this is bound to knock 2nd hand prices to around £500. If any D700 owners want to cash in quick I can pay £800 for one, meaning you are £300 up :thumbs:
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LMAO nice try though :thumbs:
 
I see Digital Depot has removed the 'rumour' at the behest of Nikon UK.... is that saying it is true or that it isn't.... all very cloak and dagger....


....this is where they call a press conference to announce a new SB400 and we all feel silly for thinking it was something more important :D
 
I'm surprised that Uncle Ken hasn't "reviewed" the D700x already, he usually has one of any new stuff up long before he (or anyone else) actually gets to see it in the flesh....:D
 
specialman said:
I see Digital Depot has removed the 'rumour' at the behest of Nikon UK.... is that saying it is true or that it isn't.... all very cloak and dagger....


....this is where they call a press conference to announce a new SB400 and we all feel silly for thinking it was something more important :D
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Or... where they call a press conference and just announce new Coolpix and nothing else...

Damn Nikon.

Pete
 
specialman said:
I see Digital Depot has removed the 'rumour' at the behest of Nikon UK.... is that saying it is true or that it isn't.... all very cloak and dagger....
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That was me. :D

I sent the link to Nikon UK with a somewhat caustic email basically saying that I would not be exactly chuffed if the 2 D700's I had just ordered had been superceded before they had even been delivered.

Nikon UK sent an equally caustic email back (good on 'em ;)) saying there was no announcement re the D700 and I guess that they have had a quick word with certain retailers.
 
BouncyMelons said:
Nikon UK sent an equally caustic email back (good on 'em ;)) saying there was no announcement re the D700 and I guess that they have had a quick word with certain retailers.
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Making friends and influencing people :bonk:

S'okay they aren't going to call it a D700, it will be called a D800 or D900, so what they told you is true....

I honestly don't see what the flapping is about anyway.
 
Well you mught if you had just ordered 2 D700's and 5 lenses!

My one concern about the D700 (coming from a 1Ds) was pixel count and if a D700x with a higher pixel count was about to be shoved in boxes I may have made a totally different buying decision. Bearing in mind that my D700's are currently in transit I really did not want to have two cameras that had been superceded by the time they were delivered!
 
Shame about the lenses - hopefully in a few days we'll here more.

Ali - I think if a new D700 (or whatever) is released with more pixels it would go against the reason you bought the D700's in the first place - ie noise/low light capabilities. A D700 will probably be video enabled (like the D300s and D3s) and have slightly better ISO performance or more pixels. Either way I doubt you'll regret buying the class bodies you've bought. HTH :)
 
BouncyMelons said:
Well you mught if you had just ordered 2 D700's and 5 lenses!

My one concern about the D700 (coming from a 1Ds) was pixel count and if a D700x with a higher pixel count was about to be shoved in boxes I may have made a totally different buying decision. Bearing in mind that my D700's are currently in transit I really did not want to have two cameras that had been superceded by the time they were delivered!
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I'm just on the verge of ordering a D700 and I'm holding off cos I'm an idiot thinking that something new is on the cusp of being announced.

It's not that I want the latest and greatest, I don't need higher res than 12MP and video to me is a bit of a gimmick but if something new is announced it will mean the price will come down a bit. Still gonna order the 14-24mm f2.8 though !!! :thumbs:
 
cambsno said:
I think the D700x will seriously affect the D700 resale which has been strong till now, an update such as this is bound to knock 2nd hand prices to around £500. If any D700 owners want to cash in quick I can pay £800 for one, meaning you are £300 up :thumbs:
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This didn't happen to the D300 when the D300s hit the market:bang:
 
I get that Ryan but I would have had one of each and had the best of both worlds ;) lol

I did say to Nikon that I'm sure I will be delighted with the D700 as it is but that I was a little concerned about what I was seeing in the press and also from retailers. There are 3 or 4 US sites listing it as well as DD. Having asked the questions three weeks ago I simply apreciate straight answers so I can base fairly major buying decisions on them :)
 
But if they up the pixel count, the pixels will be smaller and have less light gathering capabilities, right?
One the important reasons for buying a D700 or D3 is the low light capabilities.....
I wouldnt be worried about a D700 replacement, 12MP is more than enough.
 
Absolutely right Darren but having to have two of the buggers I could spread the features and use a D700 in low light and a D700x when I want maximum detail in good light. :)

I was a little concerned about the pixel count on the D700 coming from a 1Ds and my other upgrade path was the 5DII with lots more pixels. I do occasionally want lots of pixels for big pics (my largest IS 15ft wide!). Yes the D700 is fine for most applications, granted but Nikon would not be lauching 24MP cameras if there were not photographers looking for those kind of pixel counts.

It IS a matter of priorities on every buying decision, do I go for good low light and an adequate pixel count for most applications? I think so, yes :)

After all there is always Hasselblad ;)
 
Simonhi said:
I'm just on the verge of ordering a D700 and I'm holding off cos I'm an idiot thinking that something new is on the cusp of being announced.
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Welcome to the Club :cuckoo:
 
And if and when it is announced it IS likely to be a whole heap more expensive a la D3.

be careful what you wish for! :D
 
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