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New modern car advancements ,likes and dislikes.
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Depends if he took the H6 to the M1 that would be pretty well lit, especially around CMK, but going North onto the H3 or H4 not so much
Can't remember which roads we used, because it was a concert a lot of surrounding roads had more or less been turned into a one way system and we just had to follow the diversion signs. I do remember a lot of roadworks though and they weren't particularly well lit.PAH bamboozle me with numbers
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That however sounds about right
Like the time someone parked a JCB under an un lit road bridge with no warning signs, an acquaintance hit said JCB on a bike at some speed.
The out come was pretty obvious
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Too many options with new cars.. I'm not one for chopping and changing cars, but the hatchback has died and I need a replacement.
Diesel vs. petrol, this model at 1 year old vs. another at 2 years old, and the confusion between different names for the same spec level within the same model.. aarghh...
Diesel vs. petrol, this model at 1 year old vs. another at 2 years old, and the confusion between different names for the same spec level within the same model.. aarghh...
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Diesel vs petrol is easy enough, if you don't do many miles, it's not really worth getting a diesel. What manufacturer has different names for same spec level? The name denotes the spec level.
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Petrol vs. diesel - my annual mileage is generally not high, but pretty much every trip is a decent length - I'm in Norfolk, it takes an hour to get anywhere worth driving to and I have clients in Essex, Surrey, Swindon, etc.. And then once a year I'm doing anything between 400 and 1200 miles on one trip visiting family in Europe. Plus ageing parents means that over the course of the life of my next vehicle (5-8 years) increased trips up and down to Scotland and across to Germany are very likely.
The confusion comes when the manufacturer changes the names partway through a year, it seems to confuse the dealers too as I keep finding misidentify listings. Some manufacturers are worse than others, Ford seems to have been steady over the years but Citroen seems to have a very low boredom threshold and changes the names every 4-5 years.
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Speaking of confusing names, I hate all manufacturers label the same thing with different marketing names, making search for second hand car with this feature really difficult. (and AutoTrader doesn't allow multiple condition keywords logically OR'ed together)
Volvo: Adaptive cruise control with queue assist
Audi: Adaptive cruise control with stop and go
BMW: Active cruise control with stop and go
Mercedes: Distronic plus
Kia: Advanced Smart Cruise Control
Lexus: Dynamic Radar Cruise Control
Also, why doesn't city cars have the queue assist feature? Surely this feature is more appropriate on city cars than big land cruisers.
Volvo: Adaptive cruise control with queue assist
Audi: Adaptive cruise control with stop and go
BMW: Active cruise control with stop and go
Mercedes: Distronic plus
Kia: Advanced Smart Cruise Control
Lexus: Dynamic Radar Cruise Control
Also, why doesn't city cars have the queue assist feature? Surely this feature is more appropriate on city cars than big land cruisers.
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Maybe it's a trademark issue.
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I use mine on the motorway all the time; but no way in a city. There are two many variables and people changing lanes abruptly. The current systems don't work well enough to cope with that. And I haven't even started about motorised mopeds and cyclists. Using cruise control in a city is madness if you ask me.
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Does yours have queue assist? All those I've listed have short range radar to support <20mph.
Think moving forward at 2mph on north circular, or the single lane road towards Cockfroster tube station. Anywhere that requires you to constantly change speed and follow the car in front, a computer is much better at this than us monkeys.
Of course don't use it at junctions and some system are not suitable at lane mergers. And it still requires constant attention. But to solve the traffic problem, computerised speed control is the only way.
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Yes on both my Golf R and our Mercedes GL AMG. It works very well, and I can see it working if ALL vehicles including pedestrians, mopeds, bicycles and motor bikes use the systems.
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Yes. This and other advanced features will become mandatory in congested areas in the future. All it takes is one prat to cause all the congestion. Which, in turn, causes more pollution, accidents and stress. But that will upset the "nothing should ever change" brigade as usual.
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Depends if he took the H6 to the M1 that would be pretty well lit, especially around CMK, but going North onto the H3 or H4 not so much
H7 is also less intensely lit. Portway (H5) gives you a tan driving down it at night..
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Short of banning vehicles that don't have those features, it's not really likely to become mandatory as it would be expensive to retrofit and on much older cars almost impossible.
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And I think that can easily be established for inner city driving where there is good alternatives regarding public transport. Better for the environment as well.
However they will not ban cyclist, motor bikes, mopeds and most of all pedestrians. As such I think it is just not going to happen.
However they will not ban cyclist, motor bikes, mopeds and most of all pedestrians. As such I think it is just not going to happen.
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In a lot of places, cyclists and pedestrians are already separated from these roads. So it will just be an extension of that. And some roads should be pedestrian and cycle only. Totally banning cars. Which has been happening for years already.
And the decision to bring this in to those areas will be based on the level of congestion. If the cars gridlock regularly, then there is no point in leaving it like that.
And the decision to bring this in to those areas will be based on the level of congestion. If the cars gridlock regularly, then there is no point in leaving it like that.
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Lol yes they are but it's human being doing the cycling and walking isn't it. They have this habit of not sticking to the rules unlike computers
and that is the problem there is current with using such systems in build up areas.
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Well they do cross motorways, and railway lines on foot. But that hasn't stopped them segregating them. There are many roads in cities the same. And many pedestrian only roads that previously allowed cars. This is not new.
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Oh come on that is a rare event. Can't compare that with inner city driving and roads.
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Have YOU got a car with this system on it? Have YOU actually driven like that? I find it a horrible way of driving. Cars constantly jump into the save distance that you keep, bikes go so close to the vehicle that it slams in the brakes constantly to my own annoyance and that of those behind me. Pedestrians are the most erratic of them all. I can just imagine most having a field day when they recognise a car with this system. Just walk out the car will stop regardless.
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I was talking about segregation of cars from pedestrians in cities.
But all those things you just mentioned and in the video, are a result of letting people do what they want. Making it horrible to drive. The sooner we change things the better.
But all those things you just mentioned and in the video, are a result of letting people do what they want. Making it horrible to drive. The sooner we change things the better.
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Hmm funny creatures those human beings they do tend to have that habit to break rules. I would love to hear your ideas for fail save separation of pedestrians from cyclists, cyclists from mopeds, mopeds from motor bikes, motor bikes from cars, cars from vans, vans from lorries. Oh and where do the skateboards, horses etc go?
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Cars are all banned from Norwich City Centre now, and I have to admit, it's rather nice
It is but parking in Norwich is an awful experience.
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Why should a manually operated car among all the automated cars cause congestion? Motorbikes, pedestrians and bicycles, won't be automated either you know.
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On the most part it is public transport, i.e buses that cause that congestion, they get their own lanes that cars aren't allowed to use and they get their own filter lanes at traffic lights, just so they can go in advance of cars and hold up traffic all over again.
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That will be it's downfall. Years ago, at work we had automated buggies moving pallets around following a wire track laid into the floor. People would deliberately walk in front of them and stop them or kick them as they walked by. They didn't last even a full year before they abandoned the system and went back to conventionally manned tow trucks and fork lifts. As it stands most pedestrians will wait until it is safe to cross. With vehicles having the ability to stop automatically, it will always be safe for pedestrians to cross, so they will and that will cause congestion.
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Exactly - but Ian seems to be convinced that pedestrians and other road users won't be able to get in their way as we are all segregated in traffic. Unless we got to a system with flying cars and other traffic I just can't see that happening.
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I can see fully autonomous motorway ramp-to-ramp happen very soon. We are already there in technology. For the solution in the video I linked, which is the only way (for private vehicles) to solve congestion, will unlikely to happen in our lifetime. It's unfortunate to see companies seem to be concentrating on level 4/5 fully autonomous cars rather than pushing for regulations for autonomous motorway to happen sooner.
Imagine outside lane of motorway is only for autonomous cars, that drives in blocks to save fuel and space. To prevent people from using that lane, a very special kerb is put in with special gaps for autonomous cars to join, but very difficult for humans because the gaps are so narrow and the car must change into the lane at specific speed and angle. The lane can also be much narrower to save space. (think bus-ways)
So just drive onto motorways and then hit the autonomous button.
27 miles of my 30 miles commute is on motorway, this would be so perfect for me, it'll get me to work faster and less stressed. (I so want a Tesla with autopilot)
It's unfortunate to see companies seem to be concentrating on level 4/5 fully autonomous cars rather than pushing for regulations for autonomous motorway to happen sooner.Imagine outside lane of motorway is only for autonomous cars, that drives in blocks to save fuel and space. To prevent people from using that lane, a very special kerb is put in with special gaps for autonomous cars to join, but very difficult for humans because the gaps are so narrow and the car must change into the lane at specific speed and angle. The lane can also be much narrower to save space. (think bus-ways)
So just drive onto motorways and then hit the autonomous button.
27 miles of my 30 miles commute is on motorway, this would be so perfect for me, it'll get me to work faster and less stressed. (I so want a Tesla with autopilot)
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If you were to build a new city, there is a good chance it could be done, but to do it in an already established city is hard as lets face it every road has access to a building of some sort that pedestrians need to get to be it to live, shop, eat, drink, or work or any combination for that matter.
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How does an autonomous car leave this outside lane, when the other lanes are being used by manually driven cars and their proximity and speed, prevent it from leaving.I can see fully autonomous motorway ramp-to-ramp happen very soon. We are already there in technology. For the solution in the video I linked, which is the only way (for private vehicles) to solve congestion, will unlikely to happen in our lifetime.
Imagine outside lane of motorway is only for autonomous cars, that drives in blocks to save fuel and space. To prevent people from using that lane, a very special kerb is put in with special gaps for autonomous cars to join, but very difficult for humans because the gaps are so narrow and the car must change into the lane at specific speed and angle. The lane can also be much narrower to save space. (think bus-ways)
So just drive onto motorways and then hit the autonomous button.
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Yes on a motorway I fully agree. And to be honest that I how operate it anyway. Mine goes from 0-130 without interaction required. I like motorway driving like that!I can see fully autonomous motorway ramp-to-ramp happen very soon. We are already there in technology. For the solution in the video I linked, which is the only way (for private vehicles) to solve congestion, will unlikely to happen in our lifetime.
Imagine outside lane of motorway is only for autonomous cars, that drives in blocks to save fuel and space. To prevent people from using that lane, a very special kerb is put in with special gaps for autonomous cars to join, but very difficult for humans because the gaps are so narrow and the car must change into the lane at specific speed and angle. The lane can also be much narrower to save space. (think bus-ways)
So just drive onto motorways and then hit the autonomous button.
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If you were building a new city you'd (hopefully) better integrate residential, retail and commercial usage to reduce wasteful commuting, with a public transport system that would meet the needs of most journeys. Unlikely in the UK - the road lobby is too strong and we've developed a culture of commuting by car.
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They would need traffic lights, slowing everybody down and they'd all have to drive considerately. Which we know they won't. Manually operated cars cause a lot of deaths. And a big reason to change the current nonsense.
one bus carries 30 to 50 people. Removing 30 to 50 cars from the roads.. A car with just one person in it, is the cause of a lot congestion. It's not difficult.
It's already there. It's accepted and even liked. Pedestrian zones and ring roads are everywhere and examples of segregation.
But choose gridlock, accidents, delays, stress, and pollution in cities if you can't accept change.
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Sorry but I call b******t. Yes there are pedestrian zones where cars aren't allowed, but you are missing the point it would require car zones in the inner city where pedestrians not only aren't allowed but can't go either. As we all no that they aren't allowed on the roads now yet somehow are
This is nothing to do with accepting change, it's a simple unenforceable reality.
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Already in every congested city.
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No there isn't. Take London, can't think of any area where I couldn't get to as a pedestrian. As a pedestrian I can always get in the way of cars and make them stop.