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-600D
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-500mm f/4 IS II lens
-600mm f/4 IS II lens

-development of 200-400 f/4 IS lens with built in x1.4TC

-and some Powershot compacts.

The 200-400 would suggest to me that the old 100-400 L won't be replaced with a single lens.
 
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Bet that 200-400mm will be nice and sorts out the kit bag nicely.

70-200, 200-400 with built in TC giving you 560mm, constant f4 is pretty good as well.

Would like to say I'm getting this but I can imagine the price will make that impossible for a few years yet.
 
Thanks Andrew for pointing out the announcement of this new gear.

I suspect the 200-400 will stir up A LOT of interest. Just got the 600f4is so I am barred from spending for the forseeable future but if this particular lens/TC combo gets great reviews (and it will) it would be very, very tempting in a year or so.

Regards
 
didnt think about selling the kids, except i only have the one but it is under 12 months old so should fetch a reasonable price me thinks;)
 
The 200-400 sounds fantastic, just need to wait for the astronomical cost to be announced!
 
The 200 - 400 sounds fantastic, will have to wait to see how scary the price is when announced.
 
Yep the 200-400 sounds like my dream lens, and i think dreaming is all i'll manage when they anounce the price!!
 
Hi Menthel

I suspect if you are even considering the cost you (like me) probably can't afford it, as they say ! The concensus from the guys on DP is about $9000. I know this is a random number though.

When Canon bother to put those little metal plates on their lenses (as if they were hand crafted) they charge serious cash, at least on launch.

I foresee ebay being swamped with body parts in the near future !

Aldi baked beans for me for the next year as well.

Regards to all.
 
gary43 said:
Hi Menthel

I suspect if you are even considering the cost you (like me) probably can't afford it, as they say ! The concensus from the guys on DP is about $9000. I know this is a random number though.

When Canon bother to put those little metal plates on their lenses (as if they were hand crafted) they charge serious cash, at least on launch.

I foresee ebay being swamped with body parts in the near future !

Aldi baked beans for me for the next year as well.

Regards to all.
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It makes me very sad but perhaps one day! I need to get back in to the private sector and earn lovely bonuses again!
 
Liking the look of the 200-400. The switchable converter (if it works well) will be great for adverse weather conditions and hide based photography when noise can be an issue. My money is on it being about £8000 at launch and dropping to about £6000 after a reasonable period.

The only thing I struggle with is whether it would replace my 500mm or 400mm prime?
 
I have been waiting for a 200-400 for yonks having lusted after the nikon equivalent.

How does a switchable converotr work then - doesn't it make the lens f5.6?

New 500 has lost a bit of weight too

Rob
 
woollyback said:
I have been waiting for a 200-400 for yonks having lusted after the nikon equivalent.

How does a switchable converotr work then - doesn't it make the lens f5.6?

New 500 has lost a bit of weight too

Rob
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Makes it a 280-560mm F/5.6 in theory and then stick that on a 1.3/1.6 crop body......

I'm also interested in seeing how the switachable TC works but personally would rather you bought a seperate TC that you can use on any lens.

Be interesting once its released and reviews come flooding in.
 
I had to laugh at the bit of the 500/600 press release that talks about IS:
Both models feature Canon’s latest Image Stabilizer system, offering outstanding image quality during handheld shooting and allowing users to shoot at speeds up to four times slower than normally required.
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The new 320 flashgun looks interesting as well with a video light mode.

I like the 100 end of my 100-400 for sport, very useful range.
 
StewartR,

Is the new 200-400 on your radar for purchase - imagine there would be a large rental queue with me near the front.:)
 
hidden away in the press release for the 1100D it also seems as though the kit lens has had a refresh as the EF-S 18-55 IS II.
 
... and the new IS Mode 3 is also included, assisting users when switching between subjects by activating the IS unit only during exposure.
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Can anyone explain how/why this might be a good idea?

Nikon did this on their awesome 80-400 VR over 10 years ago. If I recall correctly, the manual says this mode is "for people who prefer un-stabilized viewfinder images". It didn't make any sense then and it still doesn't make any sense now. It gives the following "benefits":
* increased shutter lag waiting for IS/VR to spin up;
* degraded AF performance if subject moves in the frame;
* harder to get composition exactly right if subject moves in the frame.

Can anyone explain?
 
The 200-400 sounds great, bet it will be a weighty beast though and not really ideal as a walkabout wildlife lens

(that's how to talk yourself out of spending far too much money)
 
StewartR said:
Can anyone explain how/why this might be a good idea?

Nikon did this on their awesome 80-400 VR over 10 years ago. If I recall correctly, the manual says this mode is "for people who prefer un-stabilized viewfinder images". It didn't make any sense then and it still doesn't make any sense now. It gives the following "benefits":
* increased shutter lag waiting for IS/VR to spin up;
* degraded AF performance if subject moves in the frame;
* harder to get composition exactly right if subject moves in the frame.

Can anyone explain?
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I wondered that too. Stabilised viewfinder is one of the key benefits of IS/VR in my book.
 
where's the 7D II/8D, 1Ds IV, 5D III and 1D V?

outrageous!

200-400 seems quite tasty - I bet the price tag is too!
 
StewartR said:
Can anyone explain how/why this might be a good idea?

Nikon did this on their awesome 80-400 VR over 10 years ago. If I recall correctly, the manual says this mode is "for people who prefer un-stabilized viewfinder images". It didn't make any sense then and it still doesn't make any sense now. It gives the following "benefits":
* increased shutter lag waiting for IS/VR to spin up;
* degraded AF performance if subject moves in the frame;
* harder to get composition exactly right if subject moves in the frame.

Can anyone explain?
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The only thing I can think of is that on the large primes the IS takes a lot of juice to run. If you are just lining up a shot or using the lens as a spotting telescope before taking the image, you could save some battery life perhaps?

Ok, so most have plenty of batteries, but this might help if you are staking something out for a very long time...

BTW no mention of weight loss to these big boys? The 400 2.8 went on a crash diet and I would have thought these would have benefitted the same?

The 200-400... doesn't look as bulky as the Nikon one. I like the idea of the TC built in - presumably optically matching the lens perfectly. Just hope its better than the Nikon 200-400 which personally I really hated! (awaits backlash, but seriously don't bother LOL)

BTW Canonites, the Nikon 200-400 is about 4k to buy... I doubt if Canon will do much better, so start saving :D
 
There is mention on the 500 and 600.

- 500 is -17% (680g)
- 600 is -27% (1.4kg)

Weight drop on the 600 is significant and moves it to 500 weight - impressive stuff.
 
Excellent!

Yes, very impressive and very desirable too!
 
StewartR said:
Can anyone explain how/why this might be a good idea?

Nikon did this on their awesome 80-400 VR over 10 years ago. If I recall correctly, the manual says this mode is "for people who prefer un-stabilized viewfinder images". It didn't make any sense then and it still doesn't make any sense now. It gives the following "benefits":
* increased shutter lag waiting for IS/VR to spin up;
* degraded AF performance if subject moves in the frame;
* harder to get composition exactly right if subject moves in the frame.

Can anyone explain?
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Canon said:

Newly Added IS Mode 3: The new EF 300mm and 400mm IS II lenses are the first to introduce Canon’s new IS Mode 3.

A third IS Mode was added to both lenses, allowing for a less distracting/more natural correction as perceived by camera operators looking through the viewfinder.

This new stabilization mode is similar to IS Mode 2 in the respect that it can detect and correct for panning by shutting off IS correction in the panning direction, but the difference is that IS correction occurs only during the actual exposure in IS Mode 3. (As in IS Modes 1 and 2, camera shake and panning detection occurs whenever the shutter button is pressed halfway.)

As a result, the image in the viewfinder moves more naturally while panning, and battery power is conserved. This feature is expected to be welcomed by sports photographers as well as those who photograph birds in flight.
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Some of what Canon puts out does seem like gibberish sometimes, although I suppose IS 3 must be useful if they went to the bother of putting it in the lens?
 
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Stewart

Can you put me down second on the list to rent the 200-400, when you have it in, please ? Any reasonable amount paid.


BTW. IMHO, £4-4.5k sounds about right for this lens after prices have settled a bit and as a street price.


Gary
 
Uneducated_Rick said:
where's the 7D II/8D, 1Ds IV, 5D III and 1D V?

outrageous!

200-400 seems quite tasty - I bet the price tag is too!
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end of this year start of next for all those I reckon. Seems that the 1Ds line might be killed off ?
Just what I've read from various places.

One thing that I noticed from elsewhere why pay for a 60D over a 600D, doesn't seem to be that much difference really.
 
That 200-400 looks amazing. I'm starting the saving now!
 
woollyback said:
StewartR,

Is the new 200-400 on your radar for purchase - imagine there would be a large rental queue with me near the front.:)
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Crikey, slow down! Let's wait and see what it costs first.
 
With regard to pricing of the 200-400: anyone who thinks it will be anywhere near £4k is away with the fairies, I'm afraid.

For starters the Nikon 200-400 is more like £4.5k-£5k depending on where and when you buy it. Plus there's the built-in Extender which I can see adding £500 to the price. Plus if it's been treated to the same weight-loss programme as the other Canon super-teles, it will be a lot lighter than the Nikon, and that's worth paying for too.

Bottom line: I reckon it will launch at £8k or more, and in the long run it will *eventually* drift down to about £5.5k-£6k.
 
200-400 is lovely - can't wait to see field test reports!
 
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