New Canon EF 70-200 F2.8L IS II lens

ramyad

ramyad

Suspended / Banned
Messages
295
Name
Ramesh (Ram)
Edit My Images
No
Canon have announced their new lens, the update to the critically acclaimed 70-200 F2.8L IS.

Full specs here:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10010508canon70200isii.asp

Owning the original, I can't see me upgrading to this lens as the price will probably be over £2k and I can't complain about the quality.

Seems that this one is aimed at the pro-paps.
 
Yeah just seen this - will be very interested to see what the price is.
 
It's not doubling the price. It's a 25% increase in SRP with retailers trying at launch to get people who are desperate to pay SRP.
 
aligibbs said:
See http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=192472
Click to expand...

Posting here for the ones that don't look in the news forum, like me :)

I'm trying to work out what would make someone with an "excellent copy" of the original sell and buy the new one. For the "Joe Public's" can't really see a reason, for the pros, it's probably good for situations like weddings where you can now focus closer.

I wonder what the second hand price is for a good copy of the original, should be around £1k I reckon.
 
Interesting, will hopefully drop the Mk 1 prices a little, esp when it's been out for a few months :thumbs:
 
i can't see it affecting the mk1 prices for a long time.... prices only drop when theres lack of demand for a product caused by demand for a new product. at the moment theres not enough gain to warrant demand of the mk2 at 2k plus, so mk1's will be barely affected for a long while yet....
 
MC_Stoo said:
I paid £1249 for my 70-200 f2.8L IS in March 2009... it's still a hellish big price hike... just like the 1D-IV (£4499 at launch) is over the 1D-III (£2499 at launch)
Click to expand...


I paid £1500 for my Mk I and a 17-55 2.8 IS in 2008, looks more like a bargain every day :)
 
MC_Stoo said:
I paid £1249 for my 70-200 f2.8L IS in March 2009... it's still a hellish big price hike... just like the 1D-IV (£4499 at launch) is over the 1D-III (£2499 at launch)
Click to expand...
The 1d3 was best part of £3000 at launch.
 
silverstar189 said:
i can't see it affecting the mk1 prices for a long time.... prices only drop when theres lack of demand for a product caused by demand for a new product. at the moment theres not enough gain to warrant demand of the mk2 at 2k plus, so mk1's will be barely affected for a long while yet....
Click to expand...

I am sorry I can. They will go... UP! Better get mk1 or non-IS now if you need one and got funds. BTW non-IS is apparently being discontinued
 
Was there anything particularly wrong with the Mark I? I personally think it's a stellar piece of glass, and pretty much up there for best within the class.
 
evo456 said:
Was there anything particularly wrong with the Mark I? I personally think it's a stellar piece of glass, and pretty much up there for best within the class.
Click to expand...

Oh, yes they are great, I had a chance to use one a while ago. If anything the IS was a bit dated, and some people complained about the use with converters. I've seen one bad copy (maybe destroyed copy) too. I am looking to get one at some point.
 
The prices bouncing about would really put me off buying the new one. The mk1 is an expensive piece of kit but I bought it as it seems to do what I want it to do, reviews have always been favourable. I can't see many hobbiests like me buying the new one or replaceing their mk1 with it just due to the price.
 
On the face of it, Canon's least exciting and least needed new lens for a while.

It's not any smaller or lighter (in fact 20g heavier and 2mm longer) and while it improves on image quality (already exceptionally good) according to Canon's MTF graphs, the difference is not great. IS is better at four stops, but it's not got the latest Hybrid IS from the new 100L macro. MTFs here:

New
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=19092

Old
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=7469

I'm thinking (hoping) there must be more to it than this. Maybe image quality is in fact significantly better at high resolution (those graphs only go up to a modest 30 cycles-per-mm) which would benefit the latest high-res sensors and make use with Extenders really good. Use of fluorite glass suggests that they've thrown everything at it :thinking:

Maybe we're in for a surprise when the hand-on reviews come out :)
 
I just changed my f4 for the 2.8 IS on Christmas Eve.

I knew this would come out sooner or later. But I'm not disappointed I bought the old one, does the job more than well enough.

I used it with the 2x II convertor to shoot some cricket. Not great, but then it is a zoom lens, again, it did the job I needed it to.

I would've thought a 16-35 mk III that's actually sharp would be a better lens for them to upgrade. Maybe that's not possible though.
 
HoppyUK said:
On the face of it, Canon's least exciting and least needed new lens for a while.

It's not any smaller or lighter (in fact 20g heavier and 2mm longer) and while it improves on image quality (already exceptionally good) according to Canon's MTF graphs, the difference is not great. IS is better at four stops, but it's not got the latest Hybrid IS from the new 100L macro. MTFs here:

New
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=19092

Old
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=7469

I'm thinking (hoping) there must be more to it than this. Maybe image quality is in fact significantly better at high resolution (those graphs only go up to a modest 30 cycles-per-mm) which would benefit the latest high-res sensors and make use with Extenders really good. Use of fluorite glass suggests that they've thrown everything at it :thinking:

Maybe we're in for a surprise when the hand-on reviews come out :)
Click to expand...

Interesting comparison of the MTF charts. Personally I can't see much of a difference to say that you could perceivable see a difference in prints from one or the other. Would be great to see real world side by side comparison and even then, it would need to be 100% pixel peeping I reckon.
 
daugirdas said:
I am sorry I can. They will go... UP! Better get mk1 or non-IS now if you need one and got funds. BTW non-IS is apparently being discontinued
Click to expand...

i guess we'll find out which way prices go soon! is scrapping the non-IS a good idea though? ok, its a hell of a step down from the IS, but they'd be relinquishing a sector of the market by doing that surely?
 
Presumably they have the sales figures to tell whether it's justified or not.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top