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I recently purchased an OM-1 Mark II which was delivered today. I've noticed a couple of things:

1) There are 2 stuck pixels in the EVF. It looks like they're only visible in the EVF and not on the sensor (though I'm going to do some more testing on this). Is this within what would be considered "normal" tolerance for a new camera?

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2) I had a look at the hidden service menu to check the shutter count and it's up at 671! I've taken maybe 20 test shots, so the count must have been around 650 when I got it. To me, that seems strangely high for a new camera...? Has anyone ever checked their shutter count right after receiving a new cam?

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slicendice said:
I recently purchased an OM-1 Mark II which was delivered today. I've noticed a couple of things:

1) There are 2 stuck pixels in the EVF. It looks like they're only visible in the EVF and not on the sensor (though I'm going to do some more testing on this). Is this within what would be considered "normal" tolerance for a new camera?

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2) I had a look at the hidden service menu to check the shutter count and it's up at 671! I've taken maybe 20 test shots, so the count must have been around 650 when I got it. To me, that seems strangely high for a new camera...? Has anyone ever checked their shutter count right after receiving a new cam?

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If you bought this new and not “open box” I’d be sending it back with a very strongly worded letter, it’s clearly been used.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the stuck pixels are the reason it was returned. Where did you buy it from?

Edit: Ignore this, read the post below.
 
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No that shutter count is the norm for brand new Olympus/oms bodies they are tested extensively before leaving the factory .. I see posts the same as this weekly it’s the way they do things.
Pretty sure the stuck pixels can be blocked out in menu as well ..
And the shutters are rated at around 5 million so I wouldn’t worry on the count anyway .. .once you start to input settings as well you will realise the best setting is electronic silent shutter anyway so your shutter count should stay at a few hundred ad infinitum …
The Olympus/ oms bodies are NOT affected by rolling shutter so you can shoot at 20fps all day long without a care .i have for two years plus
 
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the black fox said:
No that shutter count is the norm for brand new Olympus/oms bodies they are tested extensively before leaving the factory .. I see posts the same as this weekly it’s the way they do things.
Pretty sure the stuck pixels can be blocked out in menu as well ..
And the shutters are rated at around 5 million so I wouldn’t worry on the count anyway .. .once you start to input settings as well you will realise the best setting is electronic silent shutter anyway so your shutter count should stay at a few hundred ad infinitum …
The Olympus/ oms bodies are NOT affected by rolling shutter so you can shoot at 20fps all day long without a care .i have for two years plus
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the black fox said:
No that shutter count is the norm for brand new Olympus/oms bodies they are tested extensively before leaving the factory .. I see posts the same as this weekly it’s the way they do things.
Pretty sure the stuck pixels can be blocked out in menu as well ..
And the shutters are rated at around 5 million so I wouldn’t worry on the count anyway .. .once you start to input settings as well you will realise the best setting is electronic silent shutter anyway so your shutter count should stay at a few hundred ad infinitum …
The Olympus/ oms bodies are NOT affected by rolling shutter so you can shoot at 20fps all day long without a care .i have for two years plus
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Wow, I stand corrected. I was not aware of this and after reading your post did some digging around and it appears that Olympus cameras can have up to 1000 shutter actuations from new.

I’m not sure why they need so many actuations to test them, seems excessive to me but what do I know.
 
the black fox said:
No that shutter count is the norm for brand new Olympus/oms bodies they are tested extensively before leaving the factory .. I see posts the same as this weekly it’s the way they do things.
Pretty sure the stuck pixels can be blocked out in menu as well ..
And the shutters are rated at around 5 million so I wouldn’t worry on the count anyway .. .once you start to input settings as well you will realise the best setting is electronic silent shutter anyway so your shutter count should stay at a few hundred ad infinitum …
The Olympus/ oms bodies are NOT affected by rolling shutter so you can shoot at 20fps all day long without a care .i have for two years plus
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That's really good to hear, thank you very much for clarifying (y)
 
Adamcski said:
I have two OM1 cameras and have shot very, very few images with mech shutter - always electronic shutter, even for macro and flash.

Enjoy the new camera, they are great :)
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Sorry this is a bit off topic but I use mechanical usually as I like to hear a click to let me know when a shot has been taken - clearly a luddite :LOL:
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Hmm well I don't think it has but I am very new to M43... I'll give electronic another go and see if I take to it :)
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I have the option to add sound to the e-shutter on my Sony but I rarely use it, I prefer it silent. You can have the option of a box around the frame or focus point that flashes to let you know you’ve taken a shot (y)
 
snerkler said:
I have the option to add sound to the e-shutter on my Sony but I rarely use it, I prefer it silent. You can have the option of a box around the frame or focus point that flashes to let you know you’ve taken a shot (y)
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Don't think you can add sound to the A7R V or the OM1 2 :(
 
nog said:
Don't think you can add sound to the A7R V or the OM1 2 :(
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I never use the e-shutter with my A7RV as the readout’s too slow but looking at the manual it looks like you can set whether it has e-shutter sounds or not. I’ll check on mine over the weekend if I remember.

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Disclaimer ~ I have not checked because I am happy without the false 'shutter sounds' as use silent eShutter 99% of the time.

You can it seems set a "beep" when using silent shutter..,....not actually shutter sound but a beep......OM1

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snerkler said:
I never use the e-shutter with my A7RV as the readout’s too slow but looking at the manual it looks like you can set whether it has e-shutter sounds or not. I’ll check on mine over the weekend if I remember.

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Yes e shutter is not much use for moving stuff but ok for portraits and landscape though lose some dynamic range IIRC. E shutter could be good for time lapse if lots of shots. If you do find a way of getting shutter noise on e shutter pls let me know (y)
 
Box Brownie said:
Disclaimer ~ I have not checked because I am happy without the false 'shutter sounds' as use silent eShutter 99% of the time.

You can it seems set a "beep" when using silent shutter..,....not actually shutter sound but a beep......OM1

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Is the beep not the focus confirmation? I don't have an OM anymore
 
nog said:
Is the beep not the focus confirmation? I don't have an OM anymore
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AFAIK it is the same 'beep' action as AF confirmation (which I always disable as a matter of routine) as the page I show is explicitly about the shutter sound subject. Of course I stand to be corrected of I have misinterpreted it.
 
Box Brownie said:
AFAIK it is the same 'beep' action as AF confirmation (which I always disable as a matter of routine) as the page I show is explicitly about the shutter sound subject. Of course I stand to be corrected of I have misinterpreted it.
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I don't read it as though there's an electric shutter sound, it appears to be that to engage the electronic shutter you have to use silent mode, which of course makes it silent. I can't see anything in the manual that then lets you have a shutter sound, just the focus comfirmation beep. It's a long time since I've owned olympus though so I could be wrong (y)
 
nog said:
Yes e shutter is not much use for moving stuff but ok for portraits and landscape though lose some dynamic range IIRC. E shutter could be good for time lapse if lots of shots. If you do find a way of getting shutter noise on e shutter pls let me know (y)
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I've just checked mine and despite turning silent mode off I still don't get sound when using e-shutter, I wonder if this is a glitch as reading the manual I posted above it does say with ot without shutter sounds, I'll post in the Sony thread but will also contact Sony (y)
 
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Think this is clouding the issue for the OP as it’s re- Sony bodies ..
The Olympus om1 and om1mkii will happily shoot all day at high speeds in electronic silent shutter anyway. With no adverse effects, mines set for high speed sequential at 20fps and as has been seen gives outstanding results consistently
 
the black fox said:
Think this is clouding the issue for the OP as it’s re- Sony bodies ..
The Olympus om1 and om1mkii will happily shoot all day at high speeds in electronic silent shutter anyway. With no adverse effects, mines set for high speed sequential at 20fps and as has been seen gives outstanding results consistently
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This.

I read the OM1 readouts speed is about 8 MS with the Z9/8 around 4 MS.

So you can shoot whatever you like with electronic shutter.

We are away camping at the moment so taken the OM1s with me. We went to a national trust yesterday and the wife wanted to take some images of flowers, so I gave her one with the 40-150 F2.8 attached.

She gave it me back and said "I think I've taken a lot of images"...I'd forgotten to take it off high burts mode and ended up deleting 495 duplicat flower images yesterday back at the tent on the macbook lol
 
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Adamcski said:
This.

I read the OM1 readouts speed is about 8 MS with the Z9/8 around 4 MS.

So you can shoot whatever you like with electronic shutter.

We are away camping at the moment so taken the OM1s with me. We went to a national trust yesterday and the wife wanted to take some images of flowers, so I gave her one with the 40-150 F2.8 attached.

She gave it me back and said "I think I've taken a lot of images"...I'd forgotten to take it off high burts mode and ended up deleting 495 duplicat flower images yesterday back at the tent on the macbook lol
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I think the Sony A1 and A9 III have similar readout to the Z9 (y)
 
My son has recently acquired a Sony A7riv and I asked him why he wasn’t using electronic shutter and he said due to rolling shutter .. so it does look as if OMS have a touch of black magic in there bodies ..
He said he would need to go to the top camera bodies to get e/ shutter
 
the black fox said:
My son has recently acquired a Sony A7riv and I asked him why he wasn’t using electronic shutter and he said due to rolling shutter .. so it does look as if OMS have a touch of black magic in there bodies ..
He said he would need to go to the top camera bodies to get e/ shutter
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I don't think there's any black magic to it it's a question of what sensor tech they put it the camera, most manufacturers now have cameras with fast enough readout times so that rolling shutter is imperceivable. Of course Sony now has the A9 III with a global shutter so there is no rolling shutter whether perceivable or not.

I think the OM-5 can demonstrate rolling shutter as sensor readout is only around 1/30-1/50 (depending on your source), the OM1 and OM3 have the stacked sensor I believe allowing for faster readout speeds.
 
Adamcski said:
So you can shoot whatever you like with electronic shutter.
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Not strictly true. Shots with LED artificial light, can show banding. And this is not always noticeable in the thumbnails you can review in camera.
 
Pound Coin said:
Not strictly true. Shots with LED artificial light, can show banding. And this is not always noticeable in the thumbnails you can review in camera.
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Yes that's is correct.

Happened to me once on my old Lumix S5 (no idea of sensor speed) but not on the OM1 / Z8 as of yet.
 
the black fox said:
The Olympus/ oms bodies are NOT affected by rolling shutter so you can shoot at 20fps all day long without a care .i have for two years plus
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They can be. Even my Z9 can show effects of rolling shutter and it's readout speed is almost twice as fast as the OM-1. It won't show up frequently, and it may be hard to identify, but no rolling readout sensor is immune.

This picture was taken with the OM-1 notice how the ball and racket positions are separated while the shadow of the ball and racket are making contact.



Even a mechanical shutter can show a similar effect because it has "rolling record" at high shutter speeds.
 
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sk66 said:
They can be. Even my Z9 can show effects of rolling shutter and it's readout speed is almost twice as fast as the OM-1. It won't show up frequently, and it may be hard to identify, but no rolling readout sensor is immune.

This picture was taken with the OM-1 notice how the ball and racket positions are separated while the shadow of the ball and racket are making contact.



Even a mechanical shutter can show a similar effect because it has "rolling record" at high shutter speeds.
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Is that really caused by rolling shutter and not just the way the shadow is cast?

I'm not disputing that any camera without a global shutter can show rolling shutter but a shadow is not always an exact replication depending on position of sun etc.
 
snerkler said:
Is that really caused by rolling shutter and not just the way the shadow is cast?
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In this example there is also additional distortion to the racket and ball, but it is about impossible to distinguish from normal.



On most mirrorless cameras (including OM) the bottom of the frame is later than the top (in landscape).
 
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Early motorsport shooters used the effect to show cars and their wheels apparently leaning in the direction of travel - an effect now used in so many cartoonish drawings! Googling tells me that Speed Graphics using slow film were partly to blame too.
 
Nod said:
Early motorsport shooters used the effect to show cars and their wheels apparently leaning in the direction of travel - an effect now used in so many cartoonish drawings! Googling tells me that Speed Graphics using slow film were partly to blame too.
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When panning things will/may lean in the direction of the pan.
 
sk66 said:
Yes.
In this example there is also additional distortion to the racket and ball, but it is about impossible to distinguish from normal.



On most mirrorless cameras (including OM) the bottom of the frame is later than the top (in landscape).
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That’s pretty crazy :cool:
 
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