New 5D MK3 revealed

grum said:
Don't think there's a RAW converter available yet for 5D III files.
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Understandable as there isn't a 5D III available yet
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I'll stick with my MarkII, as I see no improvements that would be of use to me. My main lens is a Zeiss 21mm 2.8 that is manual focus anyway. If I feel the need for speed I will use my 7D.
I hate to state the obvious, but this camera ( as does the Mark II ) demand top class glass on the front end.

Best wishes,

Philip
 
Raymond Lin said:
DWF is Digital Wedding Forum.

Changing screen is a niche thing and most people won't touch it unless they have manual lenses. I say less than 5%. Although i want a T/S lens so that part of me might cause me to keep one of my 5Dii for this purpose.
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I believe your percentage estimate is low, especially in the States where the use of MF lenses is getting more popular, the one forum I visit picked up on this, however they are sure that third party screens will be available, just not Canon ones as was the case previously.
 
Live view is so much better than the Matt screen anyway. Plus when you come to use other lenses the matt screen is a pain.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Scoop?

Canon 5Dii who can afford it are wetting themselves over this.
Canon users who can't afford it are disappointed about its price.
Some Nikon users are envious.
Some Nikon users don't care.
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You missed one cateogry of people:

Canon users who can afford it but are still disappointed by the price.

That's me - I could buy it on the day it comes out, but it still feels £500 more expensive than it should be.
 
POAH said:
Live view is so much better than the Matt screen anyway. Plus when you come to use other lenses the matt screen is a pain.
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Live view was always available, yet a fair number still changed their screen, I stuck with the standard screen, and have not had any issues focusing my manual lenses.
 
joescrivens said:
That's me - I could buy it on the day it comes out, but it still feels £500 more expensive than it should be.
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...is exactly what I said on the stand yesterday and the chap I was speaking to admitted most people were saying the same to him.
 
Haha yeah, how many people do you think we could get to boycott 5D3 until the price hits £2500?

Probably not enough I suspect...
 
One of the coolest things I noticed that wasn't in any of the literature I've seen is the settings for Auto ISO, you can set the FROM and TO range for acceptable ISO when on Auto, and you can set the minimum shutter speed. Which I think I'd use a lot. eg:-

"Pick ISO automatically between 100 and 6400 in order to ensure shutter of at least 60th"
 
davidsteward said:
One of the coolest things I noticed that wasn't in any of the literature I've seen is the settings for Auto ISO, you can set the FROM and TO range for acceptable ISO when on Auto, and you can set the minimum shutter speed. Which I think I'd use a lot. eg:-

"Pick ISO automatically between 100 and 6400 in order to ensure shutter of at least 60th"
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yup, i've raved about this many times in these threads, its something i have wanted since i saw it in some nikons
 
Mark Anthony said:
Then when the price hit £2500 they wouldn't be able to keep up with demand lol.

That's my figure anyway, i want one, it looks on paper like it has everything i've ever wanted in a body, but i'm not paying more than £2.5k for it.
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The trouble is - £2500 is lightly used 1D mk4 territory
 
If anyone is a CPS member - I'd recommend registering for their little 5d3 demo as per the email they sent out. I attended one today, and it was nice to be away from the crowds and got a chance to play without 101 people nosing over my shoulder. I knew a lot already before attending. However there was one thing I learnt that I didn't know before today - and was quite a sway factor for me. The 5d3 has a 'quiet' shutter mode. And it's quiet!! Very quiet! I was very impressed. The mirror is controlled by a motor rather than a traditional spring - and because of this it can be a very very quiet 'click'. Everything else was as stated - but can't see anyone mentioning just how quiet it was. So it's a thumbs up from me - and a long wait until it drops in price to £2500!
 
cymruchris said:
If anyone is a CPS member - I'd recommend registering for their little 5d3 demo as per the email they sent out. I attended one today, and it was nice to be away from the crowds and got a chance to play without 101 people nosing over my shoulder. I knew a lot already before attending. However there was one thing I learnt that I didn't know before today - and was quite a sway factor for me. The 5d3 has a 'quiet' shutter mode. And it's quiet!! Very quiet! I was very impressed. The mirror is controlled by a motor rather than a traditional spring - and because of this it can be a very very quiet 'click'. Everything else was as stated - but can't see anyone mentioning just how quiet it was. So it's a thumbs up from me - and a long wait until it drops in price to £2500!
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Very quiet! I picked up on a demo on one site today but as is usually the case, can't find where and my "history" on the pc is too lengthy to find it via that route.
 
davidsteward said:
One of the coolest things I noticed that wasn't in any of the literature I've seen is the settings for Auto ISO, you can set the FROM and TO range for acceptable ISO when on Auto, and you can set the minimum shutter speed. Which I think I'd use a lot. eg:-

"Pick ISO automatically between 100 and 6400 in order to ensure shutter of at least 60th"
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Been doing that for years with my Nikons.....lol
 
davidsteward said:
One of the coolest things I noticed that wasn't in any of the literature I've seen is the settings for Auto ISO, you can set the FROM and TO range for acceptable ISO when on Auto, and you can set the minimum shutter speed. Which I think I'd use a lot. eg:-

"Pick ISO automatically between 100 and 6400 in order to ensure shutter of at least 60th"
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It is a great feature that I use occasionally when I'm wandering in and out of shady places on holiday. :)

Trouble is that Nikon have already taken that a step further with being able to set the lowest shutter as a reciprocal of the focal length before raising the ISO. I'm surprised it hasn't been implemented before, as surely it is not a hard thing for the camera to work out. :shrug:
 
cymruchris said:
If anyone is a CPS member - I'd recommend registering for their little 5d3 demo as per the email they sent out. I attended one today, and it was nice to be away from the crowds and got a chance to play without 101 people nosing over my shoulder. I knew a lot already before attending. However there was one thing I learnt that I didn't know before today - and was quite a sway factor for me. The 5d3 has a 'quiet' shutter mode. And it's quiet!! Very quiet! I was very impressed. The mirror is controlled by a motor rather than a traditional spring - and because of this it can be a very very quiet 'click'. Everything else was as stated - but can't see anyone mentioning just how quiet it was. So it's a thumbs up from me - and a long wait until it drops in price to £2500!
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Yeah we were in the very first of these sessions on Sunday and were all wowed by just how quiet the silent mode was! :)
 
Vertigo1 said:
Yeah we were in the very first of these sessions on Sunday and were all wowed by just how quiet the silent mode was! :)
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You take a FPS hit, down to like 3FPS i think.

To those who think the launch price for 5Diii is expensive. Reality check time.

The 1D in 2002 was £8,000
The 5D in 2005 was £2,800
The 5Dii in 2008 was £2,300

Yes, £3,000 is more than the 5Dii but there was a massive earthquake and Tsunami that must have hit their profit bad. £3,000 seems "reasonable" to me.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Yes, £3,000 is more than the 5Dii but there was a massive earthquake and Tsunami that must have hit their profit bad. £3,000 seems "reasonable" to me.
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Not when compared to the D800, and that's from Nikon who have arguably been hit harder by the Earthquake and Tsunami in Japan, and the Floods in Thailand. :shrug:

To bring out a replacement very much more expensive than its predecessor when the trend previously has been downwards for each of the previous versions is a possibly dangerous choice. (if they had a choice ;)) There have been quite a few who have said the 5DIII is too much. I think if they kept it £100 - £200 under that £3000 rrp they may have got a lot more people saying they would be buying it. £3000 is a notable price to justify. ;)
 
On the pricing front canon know they are a lot of desperate fans out there like me lol who have been waiting on this camera for ages so they have set the price high to maximise profits for the 1st few months,sales will quickly slow down I reckon in this economy though and then they price will drop the price which I think will be around 2500 uk then I will buy :)
 
Slimbert said:
I can't pretend to have the deposit for a house in my camera bag, but it's not far off 5 figures either.....it'd cost me a fair bit to switch, but if I thought it was worth it, I'd still do it!!

I pondered moving over purely for the D700 for such a long time, but decided not to because I knew the mk3 was just around the corner.....6 months later and it's finally here, and I'm glad I held out!! The D800 looks tempting, but those mk3 specs are perfect in my eyes.....they've got it bang on!!
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I agree almost. The only downside is 1/200th sync speed.
 
It's not a replacement. It's a clear step up and Canon will still sell the 5D2 alongside (Canon statement). Naturally loads of people will upgrade, there's been a lot of waiting.

After the summer they will release a sub £2k FF camera (4fps and dumbed down AF) to replace the 5D2. But they need a new EF non-L kit lens for it as well, 3x zoom cheaper than the 24-105 but with IS. Maybe 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS II?
(my predictions)
 
vaizki said:
It's not a replacement. It's a clear step up and Canon will still sell the 5D2 alongside (Canon statement). Naturally loads of people will upgrade, there's been a lot of waiting.

After the summer they will release a sub £2k FF camera (4fps and dumbed down AF) to replace the 5D2. But they need a new EF non-L kit lens for it as well, 3x zoom cheaper than the 24-105 but with IS. Maybe 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS II?
(my predictions)
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I'll eat my hat if you are right in your second paragraph. It's nice but it will never happen, it will eat away at profits from the 5Diii sales. Why would they do that?
 
Raymond Lin said:
Yes, £3,000 is more than the 5Dii but there was a massive earthquake and Tsunami that must have hit their profit bad. £3,000 seems "reasonable" to me.
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Trouble is, they're more likely to double the number of units they shift at a lower price tag, so although their profit margin is bigger, the volumn is where the real profit would be for them.

There seems to be an awful lot of people out there looking at the 5DmkIII and are keen, but can't quite justify the costs.
Personally, as a 'weekend warrior', if I was booking more weddings this year (and not getting married myself) then I could just perhaps justify the costs.
 
If one could afford a £2,800 camera he or he can surely afford a £3,000 one. The only difference is saving for another month? If photography is a hobby I am sure people will be gutted at the price but looking at it from a business perspective, it is merely an investment, the feature it bring to the table is potentially a game changer for some.
 
Raymond Lin said:
If one could afford a £2,800 camera he or he can surely afford a £3,000 one. The only difference is saving for another month? If photography is a hobby I am sure people will be gutted at the price but looking at it from a business perspective, it is merely an investment, the feature it bring to the table is potentially a game changer for some.
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thats not how people look at it. It's about what it is worth not what they can afford. Like I said before, I can afford the camera but I don't think it is worht £3000. I think it is worth £2500.

I'm not going to pay something over what I think it is worth, especially when I know that in time the price will come down.

I'd hate to pay £3000 for it today knowing that in 6 to 12 months it's going to cost £500 less and settle there.
 
12 months/£500 depreciation is nothing. You lose that much in your new car easily in a month. I'm not buying it at launch but no way would wait 12 months, 1/3 of its life cycle, before buying it if I can afford it. It's a tool that can bring in income and it's features will help me to push further in my work and I can't wait to see how far I can push it an extent both my and the camera's boundary.

It makes business sense to get one, it also make artsitic sense to get one too.

For me anyway.
 
vaizki said:
It's not a replacement. It's a clear step up and Canon will still sell the 5D2 alongside (Canon statement). Naturally loads of people will upgrade, there's been a lot of waiting.

After the summer they will release a sub £2k FF camera (4fps and dumbed down AF) to replace the 5D2. But they need a new EF non-L kit lens for it as well, 3x zoom cheaper than the 24-105 but with IS. Maybe 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS II?
(my predictions)
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Why is it called the 5D3 if it's not a replacement lol
 
Kerso has already indicated his price will be in the region of £2600 so getting close already to the £2500 figure some believe is the true value.
 
Raymond Lin said:
12 months/£500 depreciation is nothing. You lose that much in your new car easily in a month. I'm not buying it at launch but no way would wait 12 months, 1/3 of its life cycle, before buying it if I can afford it. It's a tool that can bring in income and it's features will help me to push further in my work and I can't wait to see how far I can push it an extent both my and the camera's boundary.

It makes business sense to get one, it also make artsitic sense to get one too.

For me anyway.
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i not sure I follow you.

How will this camera get you more business? Or is it that you will increase your prices because you will be able to take better shots due to the focus and better noise handling?
 
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Galaxy66 said:
Kerso has already indicated his price will be in the region of £2600 so getting close already to the £2500 figure some believe is the true value.
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if kerso is selling at £2600 then I will very likely buy from him at that price. £100 more than what I think it is worth is worth paying to have it early
 
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