My illegal shennanigans from today...

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...Doing what I do.

At a public field where there was 6 mini pitches marked out

> of which Ive been 22 times before
> of which Im the "official" photographer
> of which I had written consent from team managers (pre season)
> of which I had verbal consent from every parent there at that particular pitch I was at (today)

Yet I was still approached by an elderly lady telling me it was illegal to photograph children swimming or playing football. I wonder if they were playing rugby or cricket it was legal then?

Anyway, i explained I was fully CRBd, there as official tog, Written consent pre season, Verbal consent today (which she admitted I did ask her and was fine at the time, She clearly must of stewed on it) but she insisted it was illegal and walked off not very convinced.

Needless to say, I carried on :thinking:
 
I know the subject of photography of kids has been done to death but as a parent of three myself, two of which are keen on football and athletics I just want to be able to get photos of them doing the hobbies they enjoy. I am seeing more and more event photography setups at events and feel that those are fine so that those parents who do not have the inclination to take their own photos are able to buy them (i don't want to buy that which I am capable to do myself ie take photos). The parents of the teams that both my son and daughter play for were surprised when I asked if it was ok to take photos. Their first question was "Why, shouldn't it be?". I just want images of my son and daughter to be able to look back on like I have when I was young so why can't some people accept that?

Paul
 
I was told i could take pictures of my niece playing netball at school but i was not allowed to show her face and the teacher wanted to run through all the pictures before i left
 
The best one I had was when I went away just before Xmas and the site said "NO PHOTOS" in the pool area, but i asked if it was ok to take a few pics of my 18yrs old daughter and her boyfriend in the pool as no-one else was around and still got told no!!!!!!!!
We were there for nearly 2 hours and nobody else came in at all - oh well.
 
I shoot the UK Young Athletes League, and have NEVER had any problems at all with any parent, also do youth canoeing with no problems, at a youth cycling event I was asked by an official if I had signed in at the arena reception. I had and he just said OK shoot away. Now talking to another togger who also regularly shoots the athletics meets, he says kids football is a nightmare and has given up taking his camera even when his kid plays.

Sounds to me soccer mums/dads are the problem here,
 
me and a friend were out togging this afternoon down the canal and we was walking over a bridge toward a seated area where 3 teenage girls and a lad were sitting and the girls started saying 'peados' 'perverts', I turned around and said 'you what' and asked if they wanted to see the photos I had been taking and they declined and walked off...... the bloody mentality of some people, I blame the Daily Mail :suspect:
 
if only these people cared as much about video cameras recording there kids everymove..
 
I had a similar experience with a skater at Central library in Newcastle. I thought their movement would be an ideal opportunity to play with shutter speed, as well as capturing some random things around me as well. I was asked why I was taking photographs, I explained that your allowed to take photographs in a public place and told him that if he wanted, if you give me an e-mail address I would take a couple of pictures for them and sent him copies, he got snotty, " I'm not sure if I want to do that" etc and then started taking autographs as many with his £30 compact, to be honest it made me giggle.
 
mr ooops said:
if only these people cared as much about video cameras recording there kids everymove..
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isn't that ironic, no one seems to care much that our every move is recorded on CCTV, but is this a photographer takes his camera out of the bag, or ventures out with a camera, some fool who doesn't know what they're talking about start winding about invasion of privacy, unlawfully used photographs and so forth. Doesn't it make you laugh that they really have no idea what they're talking about?
 
Just Dave said:
Urm remember on our last outing at the cricket, the guy said we couldnt take pics so its them as well
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I'd forgot about him, but he did not really rant like some do.

The worst I've had was taking photos of owls that some chap had on show in Manchester town centre, he went ape***t at those with dSLRs but could not careless about the dozen there with p&s :thinking:


Oh and some rounders woman ages ago, before I knew the law, she would get short shrift from me now :naughty:
 
I don't think I could be that certain of the law now? I know you are free to take photo's in public places but there seems to be so much other legislation around it is all getting rather confusing.
 
Hammerhead64 said:
I don't think I could be that certain of the law now? I know you are free to take photo's in public places but there seems to be so much other legislation around it is all getting rather confusing.
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There's very little legislation restricting or prohibiting photography. Just lots of misunderstandings and the occasional misinformed individual...
 
MagicMynx said:
I think it's all very sad, the entire situation about people's prejudices towards toggers taking pictures of children. :(
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Perhaps they'd rather we just offered their kids a bag of sweets and a ride in our car...........:bang:
 
Steve2 said:
I was told i could take pictures of my niece playing netball at school but i was not allowed to show her face and the teacher wanted to run through all the pictures before i left
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But it was O.K. to show her knickers? :shrug:
 
whiteflyer said:
The worst I've had was taking photos of owls that some chap had on show in Manchester town centre, he went ape***t at those with dSLRs but could not careless about the dozen there with p&s :thinking:
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was he from Whitestake falcon centre, he did that with me when john and I where official togs, covered an open day for a local uni, he said we had to pay. even though we where official togs, wonder what he thought when none of his pics didnt appeared in the local paper,and there was no metion of him, and to add to the karma, 1 of his red kites flew off into the distance
 
asterix said:
...Doing what I do.

At a public field where there was 6 mini pitches marked out

> of which Ive been 22 times before
> of which Im the "official" photographer
> of which I had written consent from team managers (pre season)
> of which I had verbal consent from every parent there at that particular pitch I was at (today)

Yet I was still approached by an elderly lady telling me it was illegal to photograph children swimming or playing football. I wonder if they were playing rugby or cricket it was legal then?

Anyway, i explained I was fully CRBd, there as official tog, Written consent pre season, Verbal consent today (which she admitted I did ask her and was fine at the time, She clearly must of stewed on it) but she insisted it was illegal and walked off not very convinced.

Needless to say, I carried on :thinking:
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I think it should be illegal for elderly ladies to interfere with young photographers........:police:
 
It's all very sad. I took my camera to take some shots of a recent tennis tournament my youngest lad was in and the event organiser had to canvas the other parents' approval for me to do so, fortunately they were all sensible.
 
Deckard said:
It's all very sad. I took my camera to take some shots of a recent tennis tournament my youngest lad was in and the event organiser had to canvas the other parents' approval for me to do so, fortunately they were all sensible.
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Surely it should be the other way round, if you don't want your kids to be photographed don't allow them to enter a public tournament!
 
I'm afraid "sensible" doesn't appear in many peoples vocabulary these days? :shrug: Just PC (politically correct) and how do I make a fast buck and make someone pay!
 
mr ooops said:
if only these people cared as much about video cameras recording there kids everymove..
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Or those very same parents using their mobile phone cameras to record the very same game!!

I guess I am going to have a huge problem today then as I am photographing the members of the entire rugby club - all 250+ of them... kids and all, they want them all in one shot!

Worst I had was 5 mins into the start of a rugby game (U12's), the ref blew up, told the kids to stop where they were and he would restart with a scrum at the place the ball was at. Parents were wondering what had happened... he then proceeded to look in my direction, call to me in front of everyone there, and say excuse me sir, do you have permission to be taking photographs of children...!! I was gobsmacked.

1 - I too, am the clubs official tog
2 - My daughter was in the team (the only girl on the field)
3 - There were dozens of parents taking shots of the game on their compacts/phones etc
4 - I had been taking shots of the games for the last 2 years

I replied that yes I do have permission, though I didn't need permission off him, and asked him if he intended to stop the game to ask all the others with cameras taking shots the very same question.

A-Hole.
 
that would wind me up

tell her that it's illegal to photogrpah children in an indecent manner...
show her your pics....tell her that from her comments that she must therefore find the pictures of these kids highly indecent and errotic...ergo she is a pervert
then shout at her that " you find these pictures pornographic!" you hideous person! and denounce her as a potential threat to the children...have her escorted from site

okay...that's not helpful but it would wind me up no end.
 
I think it's all been said before on other threads but I guess the only way of dealing with it is make sure you are up to date on any legislation and educate as many people as you can in the calmest possible manner if they do question you. I know you shouldn't have to but the problem seems to be becoming more and more prolific.
 
Just a thought but if sombody had some photographers rights card made up, we could just hand these out to these people, I'd buy some.
 
i'll give the new rights pdf a read. ta Steve.
ive never realy had much bother. even photographing at an open day for our archery club at newark showground.
only one person asked who i was.
when told i was the official club photographer, she seemed happy enough.
 
neil_g said:
i just keep a couple printouts of the above PDF in my bag for "emergencies"
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People won't read through a whole pile of stuff, what it needs is just the basics on a small business card size thing.
 
swanseamale47 said:
Just a thought but if sombody had some photographers rights card made up, we could just hand these out to these people, I'd buy some.
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Why would they believe a card?

They already know the facts, it said so in the Daily Mail :bang:
 
Clearly the legislation is confusing. In reality, if you say something with enough conviction, who would be able to argue.

Just saying your are fully authorised by the event organisers and to take it up with them if they have any issue is probably enough to take the wind out of most peoples' sales.

Oh, and surely pf's have access to the internet. I am sure I could find something much more up their street there than regular people doing regular things. I also wonder why watching is any less worrying than photographing.

And on another note, I did some jury service last year. You could enter the courtroom with a mobile phone, but not with a camera. You obviously couldn't use either, but would it not be more obvious holding a SLR up than snapping slyly with a mobile phone (and possibly more megapixels!).

The world has gone completely bonkers.

Graham
 
blue max said:
And on another note, I did some jury service last year. You could enter the courtroom with a mobile phone, but not with a camera. You obviously couldn't use either, but would it not be more obvious holding a SLR up than snapping slyly with a mobile phone (and possibly more megapixels!).

The world has gone completely bonkers.

Graham
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That made me giggle a couple of months ago too, I went to hand in forms in order to proceed with a claim I am making (DDA) and they took my camera off me but the phone hanging around my neck with a camera on it, they weren't bothered about.
 
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